The sad fact is that though this may be a valid point, if the holocaust denier really believed that it was true he should have had the author rebuke his statements in public. This was obviously a very bad publicity stunt, or the act of a mentally ill man. I have no problem with the debate of whether the events happen or not, the problem I have is how those who deny it go about trying to prove their point.

I've read "Night" a couple of times and to accuse someone of writing a lie, especially when it comes to the death of your father at the hands of the Nazi's, is absolutely dispicable. I hope this guy gets sometime in jail.

I don't know whats worse: people perpetrating the acts, or people, ad hoc, denying it ever happened. Both are sick and twisted.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by LuDaCrIs]

Lots of people write books, it doesn't make the contents true though and I believe, from what I have read the last few years that this particular gent is known to use quite a bit or "artistic license" in his writings.

Of course, to question his accounts is automatically anti-semitism and you'd have to be a screaming Nazi to do so, right?
This particular little episode smells a bit too and there seem to be differing accounts of what happened.

Also, why is the supposed assailant called a "holocaust denier"? Is there evidence proving that the alleged culprit is a neo-nazi who believes the holocaust never happened. Seems a wee bit convenient that this story breaks just as the ADL start whining about increased levels of anti-semitism across the globe and Ernst Zundel get's banged up for an additional 5 years

Not that I'd call Mr Weasel a liar or anything and risk the full wrath of the thought police. Heck, I even like Pastrami

Originally posted by LuDaCrIs

I've read "Night" a couple of times and to accuse someone of writing a lie, especially when it comes to the death of your father at the hands of the Nazi's, is absolutely dispicable. I hope this guy gets sometime in jail.

I don't know whats worse: people perpetrating the acts, or people, ad hoc, denying it ever happened. Both are sick and twisted.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by LuDaCrIs]

Didn't you notice that he forgot to mention something very crucial and important part of the industrial extermination?

According to his book "Night" there were no Gaschambers!!!
He claims that people are being burned alive in pits. He even quotes himself that he would rather jump into the electrified fence instead of having to die a slow death by burning alive.

It is also very weird story when they are being evacuated from Auschwitz. They (1000s of malnourished prisoners) have to run all night and they ran 70 kilometres during the first night and a similar distance the second night before they arrive in Gleiwitz.
If you look the places up on a map you'll find out that the distance between those 2 camps is around 60 kilometre. So it might be true that they had to walk that distance and it would take 2 nights if you walked.

The Holocaust shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt, it should be taken with a salt-mine!

Deny this:



Call it what you want to call it, but this aint right.

"Night" impressed me so much I taught it in a literature class a few times.

Whether the prisoners walked or ran (or both) 60 or 70 kilometers is hardly something to quibble about. It was at night in very cold weather and the prisoners had no adequate food or clothing. He was only a child at the time and some things may not be remembered exactly, only that they were difficult for him to live through. That's the case with memory--it is seldom exact.

I don't have the book at hand as I type, but I do believe he talks about the gas chambers at Auschwitz. I know from other history books that they also burned bodies, outdoors, in stacks; that is also described in his book. He may have witnessed the burnings but not the deaths by gas.

Most people who deny the holocaust just want to portray all Jews as liars; that justifies, in their minds, the continuing persecution of the Jews and their hatred of the nation of Israel.

It is possible to disagree with some of the policies and/or actions of Israel without denying the holocaust or the persecution of the Jews at different times throughout history. I know I disagree with Israel sometimes.

We in America have a history that is also stained at times with inhumanity and/or genocide -- our dealings with the native Americans is one example. Hopefully we have learned important lessons from our past and don't have to stoop to inciting further injustices as a means of denial.

In parts of Europe they are still uncovering graves of Jews executed during the holocaust. There is just too much evidence and too many witnesses to deny that the holocaust ever occurred, or to minimize its scope and horror.

Nobody in their right mind would do it.

Of course, to question his accounts is automatically anti-semitism and you'd have to be a screaming Nazi to do so, right?

I have yet to meet one of these "Holocaust Deniers" that isn't a closet NAZI, frankly.

They think of themselves and cry for sympathy as a persecuted minority, which is pretty funny when persecuting minorities is their whole reason for being.

My grandmother had the tattoo on her arm. She wouldnt talk of that time to anyone, she is the only of her family to make it. She died quite a few years ago. The Holocaust happened, and it is one of the most grotesque marks on humanity that there has ever been. It makes me sad that people do not believe in it. Millions of people were exterminated.