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Elie Wiesel Attacked by Holocaust Denier

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posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 02:56 PM
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Elie Wiesel was attacked by a Holocaust denier in a San Francisco hotel on February 1st, following a speech. The attacker said that he wanted to bring Wiesel into a hotel room and question him--in an attempt to make him admit that his novel "Night," in which he recounted his time at Auschwitz, was "almost entirely fictitious." His security was able to rescue him before he was injured.
 



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Police escorted Elie Wiesel to San Francisco International Airport on Feb. 1 after a man accosted Wiesel in the elevator at the Argent Hotel, at 50 Third St., after Wiesel participated in a panel discussion at a peace conference and before Wiesel was scheduled to catch a flight back to New York.

Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author of more than 40 books, including the memoir “Night,” about his experiences at Auschwitz, won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. Last fall, the Boston University professor was suggested as a possible replacement for Israeli President Moshe Katsav, who faces sexual assault charges.

Police confirmed this week that the attack took place and that officers escorted Wiesel to the airport following the attack. According to police, the suspect accosted Wiesel in the hotel elevator at around 6:30 p.m., saying he wanted to interview him. Wiesel said he would do the interview in the lobby. That’s when the attacker pulled him out of the elevator, police reported.


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This is shameful. What blows my mind the most is that the man thought that he so desperately needed to get to the truth that he thought that kidnapping an old man was justified.

The logic that a man needs to be brought into a hotel room and forced to admit that what he wrote was a lie is so warped that I hope no one can defend it. Do people really think that Israel's actions and the Zionist movement (without fault they are not) given the historical circumstances around them justify an action like this? I sincerely ask whether anyone here thinks that this is absolutely necessary to expose some pernicious agenda?

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posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:14 PM
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The sad fact is that though this may be a valid point, if the holocaust denier really believed that it was true he should have had the author rebuke his statements in public. This was obviously a very bad publicity stunt, or the act of a mentally ill man. I have no problem with the debate of whether the events happen or not, the problem I have is how those who deny it go about trying to prove their point.



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 08:51 AM
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I've read "Night" a couple of times and to accuse someone of writing a lie, especially when it comes to the death of your father at the hands of the Nazi's, is absolutely dispicable. I hope this guy gets sometime in jail.

I don't know whats worse: people perpetrating the acts, or people, ad hoc, denying it ever happened. Both are sick and twisted.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by LuDaCrIs]



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 08:59 AM
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Lots of people write books, it doesn't make the contents true though and I believe, from what I have read the last few years that this particular gent is known to use quite a bit or "artistic license" in his writings.


Of course, to question his accounts is automatically anti-semitism and you'd have to be a screaming Nazi to do so, right?
This particular little episode smells a bit too and there seem to be differing accounts of what happened.

Also, why is the supposed assailant called a "holocaust denier"? Is there evidence proving that the alleged culprit is a neo-nazi who believes the holocaust never happened. Seems a wee bit convenient that this story breaks just as the ADL start whining about increased levels of anti-semitism across the globe and Ernst Zundel get's banged up for an additional 5 years


Not that I'd call Mr Weasel a liar or anything and risk the full wrath of the thought police. Heck, I even like Pastrami



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by LuDaCrIs

I've read "Night" a couple of times and to accuse someone of writing a lie, especially when it comes to the death of your father at the hands of the Nazi's, is absolutely dispicable. I hope this guy gets sometime in jail.

I don't know whats worse: people perpetrating the acts, or people, ad hoc, denying it ever happened. Both are sick and twisted.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by LuDaCrIs]



Didn't you notice that he forgot to mention something very crucial and important part of the industrial extermination?

According to his book "Night" there were no Gaschambers!!!
He claims that people are being burned alive in pits. He even quotes himself that he would rather jump into the electrified fence instead of having to die a slow death by burning alive.

It is also very weird story when they are being evacuated from Auschwitz. They (1000s of malnourished prisoners) have to run all night and they ran 70 kilometres during the first night and a similar distance the second night before they arrive in Gleiwitz.
If you look the places up on a map you'll find out that the distance between those 2 camps is around 60 kilometre. So it might be true that they had to walk that distance and it would take 2 nights if you walked.

The Holocaust shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt, it should be taken with a salt-mine!



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Deny this:



Call it what you want to call it, but this aint right.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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"Night" impressed me so much I taught it in a literature class a few times.

Whether the prisoners walked or ran (or both) 60 or 70 kilometers is hardly something to quibble about. It was at night in very cold weather and the prisoners had no adequate food or clothing. He was only a child at the time and some things may not be remembered exactly, only that they were difficult for him to live through. That's the case with memory--it is seldom exact.

I don't have the book at hand as I type, but I do believe he talks about the gas chambers at Auschwitz. I know from other history books that they also burned bodies, outdoors, in stacks; that is also described in his book. He may have witnessed the burnings but not the deaths by gas.

Most people who deny the holocaust just want to portray all Jews as liars; that justifies, in their minds, the continuing persecution of the Jews and their hatred of the nation of Israel.

It is possible to disagree with some of the policies and/or actions of Israel without denying the holocaust or the persecution of the Jews at different times throughout history. I know I disagree with Israel sometimes.

We in America have a history that is also stained at times with inhumanity and/or genocide -- our dealings with the native Americans is one example. Hopefully we have learned important lessons from our past and don't have to stoop to inciting further injustices as a means of denial.

In parts of Europe they are still uncovering graves of Jews executed during the holocaust. There is just too much evidence and too many witnesses to deny that the holocaust ever occurred, or to minimize its scope and horror.

Nobody in their right mind would do it.



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sestias
"Night" impressed me so much I taught it in a literature class a few times.

Whether the prisoners walked or ran (or both) 60 or 70 kilometers is hardly something to quibble about. It was at night in very cold weather and the prisoners had no adequate food or clothing. He was only a child at the time and some things may not be remembered exactly, only that they were difficult for him to live through. That's the case with memory--it is seldom exact.

They were forced to run according to Wiesel, otherwise they would get shot, running 2 nights, 70 kilometres means they ran 140 kilometre, Gleiwitz is only 63 kilometres away.


Originally posted by Sestias
I don't have the book at hand as I type, but I do believe he talks about the gas chambers at Auschwitz. I know from other history books that they also burned bodies, outdoors, in stacks; that is also described in his book. He may have witnessed the burnings but not the deaths by gas.

No, he says people were burned alive, just read it again!

Originally posted by Sestias
Most people who deny the holocaust just want to portray all Jews as liars; that justifies, in their minds, the continuing persecution of the Jews and their hatred of the nation of Israel.

Nope, always referring to hate if someone is critical makes it even more suspicious. Do people hate US-citizens because they question 911?


Originally posted by Sestias
In parts of Europe they are still uncovering graves of Jews executed during the holocaust. There is just too much evidence and too many witnesses to deny that the holocaust ever occurred, or to minimize its scope and horror.

Nobody in their right mind would do it.


Like here?
www.guardian.co.uk...

Or Here:



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Of course, to question his accounts is automatically anti-semitism and you'd have to be a screaming Nazi to do so, right?


I have yet to meet one of these "Holocaust Deniers" that isn't a closet NAZI, frankly.

They think of themselves and cry for sympathy as a persecuted minority, which is pretty funny when persecuting minorities is their whole reason for being.



posted on Jul, 5 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Assumptions based on prejudgements provided by the mainstream brainwash, indeed. So the Priest Richard Williamson is also a Nazi?



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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I respect your position, but I'm afraid I too am guilty of being disinclined to accept the holocaust story 'as is.'

I accept the visual proof, but still feel the story, painfully inhuman as it, has been shamelessly 'used' by some, thus adding a moral insult to the injury. It has commemorated an event and elevated beyond it's relative magnitude and overshadowed the fact that virtually no one even stops to consider how often it has happened before, and to some extend, is still happening.

I don't know any Nazi's by the way. Nor do I suspect would they 'like' me, or what I propose to say about any group who's existence is based on separating humans, one from another.

[edit on 6-7-2009 by Maxmars]



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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ahaha, no really? its still a book, its still a vauga account of an event where no written word was possible. The fact that he may have put some story-telling elements into the book doesn't change the fact that millions of survivors can attest to identical tales of Nazi death trails.

I have read the book, i have been to the camps and i have heard testimony from survivors... and i will tell you right now, this is not a joke. This isn't the first time Elie Wiesel has been attacked. he was thoroughly beaten by a man with similar ideals in 2006 in an elevator.

There were hundreds of camps, all with different means of treating prisoners. Some were put to death, others to work. Depending on how deep into Germany the camp was, they may or may not have had to run incredible distances in the cold of winter. Discrepancies aside, this things happened, and it is by no means ANTI-SEMITIC to defend a man who was beaten by a holocaust denier because this person believes in their heart the book is fake.

mabey it is, most likely (given the testimony) it isn't. Weather it is or not, the holocaust happened, and this story can be likened to people hating the writer of "A million little pieces by James Frey." Its enlightening, it makes a better person of you, and its a piece of history that helps people find their moral center. But, as soon as some of it is a lie its a horrible dangerous piece of writing?

logic... out the window.

Questioning this account doesn't make you anti-semitic. Beating up a holocaust survivor does. Backing a person who beats a holocaust survivor... does



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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My grandmother had the tattoo on her arm. She wouldnt talk of that time to anyone, she is the only of her family to make it. She died quite a few years ago. The Holocaust happened, and it is one of the most grotesque marks on humanity that there has ever been. It makes me sad that people do not believe in it. Millions of people were exterminated.



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