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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 02:31 PM by greenkoolaid
This is horse #. I don't know where you got your information from. Smoking is possibly the worst thing you can do to your body. Forgive the long post, but it is necessary.

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2,000 annual deaths are attributed to SIDS caused by second-hand smoke

2,800 newborn deaths occur annually die to LBW (low birth weight)

About 250 children die each year in the U.S. of burns from fires caused by cigarettes, matches or lighters

Anal cancer in smokers is increased by 46%

Angina Pectoris in smokers is increased by 16%

Asthma is increased by 27% in smoking and passive smoke

At least 6,200 children die each year in the U.S. because their parents smoke. Deaths are R/T lung infections and burns. More young children are killed by parental smoking than by all intentional injuries combined

Bladder cancer in smoking males is increased by 53%

Bladder cancer in smoking females is increased by 43%

Brain tumors are increased by 20% in smokers

CAD increases a smokers mortality rate to 15% or more after a CABG surgery

Cervical cancer in smoking women is increased by 21%

Cheek and gum cancer from smokeless tobacco is increased by 87%

Cigarettes are responsible for 30% of all cancers, resulting in 150,000 cancer deaths each year

Cigarettes kill 434,000 people every year, more deaths than from automobile accidents, homicides, suicides, alcohol, drug abuse and AIDS combined

Congenital defects in smoking mothers are increased by 21%

COPD in smoking males is increased by 84%

COPD in smoking females is increased by 79%

CAD is increased by 74% in smokers

CHD is increased by 52% in smokers

Crohn's Disease in smokers is increased by 59%

Diabetes is increased by 8% by females who smoke

Duodenal ulcers is increased in smokers by 52%

Ectopic pregnancy in smoking women is increased by 74%

Heart disease is increased to 91% for nonsmokers with regular exposure to cigarette smoke

Heart disease is increased to 58% for nonsmokers with occasional exposure to cigarette smoke

Influenza in smokers is increased by 45%

Kidney cancer is increased to 33% in smokers

Kills 1,000 U.S. citizens each day from tobacco-related illnesses

Leukemia is increased by 30% in smokers

Low back pain is increased by 10% in smokers

Low birth weight in smoking pregnant women is increased by 42%

Lower respiratory illnesses in passive smokers is increased by 24%. This includes acute bronchitis and pneumonia

Lung Cancer (10 X greater in smokers and #1 killer CA in men in the U.S. It is estimated that 32% of men and 25% of women will die of lung Ca in 1996.) There are 4 types, epidermoid, small cell carcinoma, adenocarcinoma, large cell carcinoma, all of which are associated with tobacco use. Bronchogenic CA is 10X more common in smokers. Epidermoid CA is associated with heavy smoking. Survival rate of lung CA is low

Lung cancer is increased by 88% in smoking males

Lung cancer is increased by 74% in smoking females

Lung cancer killed 56,000 women in 1993

Miscarriage is increased to 15%

Myocardial infarction in females who smoke is increased by 76%

Myocardial infarction in males who smoke is increased by 33%

Nonsmokers married to heavy smokers have 2-3 times the risk of lung cancer compared with those married to nonsmokers

Nonsmokers exposed to 20 or more cigarettes a day at home had twice the risk of developing lung cancer

One-fifth of deaths R/T cardiovascular disease in 1990 were attributable to smoking

One-third of all deaths in middle-aged men and 15% of deaths in middle-aged women in industralized nations are caused by tobacco (report from WHO)

One person dies every 10 seconds as a result of tobacco use---and this does not include fatalities due to passive smoking

Other respiratory diseases in males is increased by 37%

Other respiratory diseases in females is increased by 35%

People who have never smoked but are married to smokers had about a 20% higher risk of dying of heart disease than non-smoking couples. (study in the AHA journal "Circulation")

Pancreatic cancer in smoking males is increased by 41%

Pancreatic cancer in smoking females is increased by 19%

People who smoke less than a half pack a day still have a death rate 30% higher than nonsmokers

PID in smoking females is increased by 33%

PVD in smokers is increased by 75%

Perinatal death from smoking mothers is increased by 17%

Periodontitis in smokers is increased by 40%

Pneumonia in smoking females is increased by 35%

Smoking while pregnant increases the liklihood of mental retardation in the baby by 50%

The death rate among smokers of all ages is 3 X higer than among nonsmokers

There are 1.2 million smoking-related deaths in poorer nations and 1.9 million in developed countries

Those who successfully stop smoking reduces his risk of CAD by 50% within the first year. The risk continues to decline as long as he refrains from smoking

WHO predicts that within the next 30-40 years, the annual death toll will rise to 10 million--7 million in developing countries and 3 million in the industralized world





reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 05:08 PM by DeusEx
Originally posted by greenkoolaid
This is horse #. I don't know where you got your information from. Smoking is possibly the worst thing you can do to your body. Forgive the long post, but it is necessary.

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2,000 annual deaths are attributed to SIDS caused by second-hand smoke

2,800 newborn deaths occur annually die to LBW (low birth weight)

About 250 children die each year in the U.S. of burns from fires caused by cigarettes, matches or lighters

Anal cancer in smokers is increased by 46%

Angina Pectoris in smokers is increased by 16%

Asthma is increased by 27% in smoking and passive smoke

At least 6,200 children die each year in the U.S. because their parents smoke. Deaths are R/T lung infections and burns. More young children are killed by parental smoking than by all intentional injuries combined

Bladder cancer in smoking males is increased by 53%

Bladder cancer in smoking females is increased by 43%

Brain tumors are increased by 20% in smokers

CAD increases a smokers mortality rate to 15% or more after a CABG surgery

Cervical cancer in smoking women is increased by 21%

Cheek and gum cancer from smokeless tobacco is increased by 87%

Cigarettes are responsible for 30% of all cancers, resulting in 150,000 cancer deaths each year

Cigarettes kill 434,000 people every year, more deaths than from automobile accidents, homicides, suicides, alcohol, drug abuse and AIDS combined

Congenital defects in smoking mothers are increased by 21%

COPD in smoking males is increased by 84%

COPD in smoking females is increased by 79%

CAD is increased by 74% in smokers

CHD is increased by 52% in smokers

Crohn's Disease in smokers is increased by 59%

Diabetes is increased by 8% by females who smoke

Duodenal ulcers is increased in smokers by 52%

Ectopic pregnancy in smoking women is increased by 74%

Heart disease is increased to 91% for nonsmokers with regular exposure to cigarette smoke

Heart disease is increased to 58% for nonsmokers with occasional exposure to cigarette smoke

Influenza in smokers is increased by 45%

Kidney cancer is increased to 33% in smokers

Kills 1,000 U.S. citizens each day from tobacco-related illnesses

Leukemia is increased by 30% in smokers

Low back pain is increased by 10% in smokers

Low birth weight in smoking pregnant women is increased by 42%

Lower respiratory illnesses in passive smokers is increased by 24%. This includes acute bronchitis and pneumonia

Lung Cancer (10 X greater in smokers and #1 killer CA in men in the U.S. It is estimated that 32% of men and 25% of women will die of lung Ca in 1996.) There are 4 types, epidermoid, small cell carcinoma, adenocarcinoma, large cell carcinoma, all of which are associated with tobacco use. Bronchogenic CA is 10X more common in smokers. Epidermoid CA is associated with heavy smoking. Survival rate of lung CA is low

Lung cancer is increased by 88% in smoking males

Lung cancer is increased by 74% in smoking females

Lung cancer killed 56,000 women in 1993

Miscarriage is increased to 15%

Myocardial infarction in females who smoke is increased by 76%

Myocardial infarction in males who smoke is increased by 33%

Nonsmokers married to heavy smokers have 2-3 times the risk of lung cancer compared with those married to nonsmokers

Nonsmokers exposed to 20 or more cigarettes a day at home had twice the risk of developing lung cancer

One-fifth of deaths R/T cardiovascular disease in 1990 were attributable to smoking

One-third of all deaths in middle-aged men and 15% of deaths in middle-aged women in industralized nations are caused by tobacco (report from WHO)

One person dies every 10 seconds as a result of tobacco use---and this does not include fatalities due to passive smoking

Other respiratory diseases in males is increased by 37%

Other respiratory diseases in females is increased by 35%

People who have never smoked but are married to smokers had about a 20% higher risk of dying of heart disease than non-smoking couples. (study in the AHA journal "Circulation")

Pancreatic cancer in smoking males is increased by 41%

Pancreatic cancer in smoking females is increased by 19%

People who smoke less than a half pack a day still have a death rate 30% higher than nonsmokers

PID in smoking females is increased by 33%

PVD in smokers is increased by 75%

Perinatal death from smoking mothers is increased by 17%

Periodontitis in smokers is increased by 40%

Pneumonia in smoking females is increased by 35%

Smoking while pregnant increases the liklihood of mental retardation in the baby by 50%

The death rate among smokers of all ages is 3 X higer than among nonsmokers

There are 1.2 million smoking-related deaths in poorer nations and 1.9 million in developed countries

Those who successfully stop smoking reduces his risk of CAD by 50% within the first year. The risk continues to decline as long as he refrains from smoking

WHO predicts that within the next 30-40 years, the annual death toll will rise to 10 million--7 million in developing countries and 3 million in the industralized world



Okay. Suppose your statistics are true. If three smokers per 100k get, oh anal cancer let's say, and 4 or 5 get it for non smokers statistically, that's a HUGE leap. And associated doesn't mean caused by. Remember my comments about aging? plus the nonsmoking population is much smaller, so that numbers tend to be pretty skewed.

I won't debate anythign else but cancer, because all those other things are a direct result of smoking. Smoking is an awful, terrible habit, but it doesn't cause cancer. Just about any other ailment you can think of, but not cancer.

DE


reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 05:51 PM by greenkoolaid
Ok, lets talk cancer then.



WHAT IS LUNG CANCER?

Lung cancer is the leading cancer killer in both men and women. An estimated 169,400 new cases of lung cancer and an estimated 154,900 deaths from lung cancer will occur in the United States during 2002.

The rate of lung cancer cases appears to be dropping among white and African-American men in the United States, while it continues to rise among both white and African-American women.

There are two major types of lung cancer: non-small cell lung cancer and small cell lung cancer. Non-small cell lung cancer is much more common. It usually spreads to different parts of the body more slowly than small cell lung cancer. Squamous cell carcinoma, ademocarcinoma, and large cell carcinoma are three types of non-small cell lung cancer. Small cell lung cancer also called oat cell cancer, accounts for about 20% of all lung cancer.


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WHAT CAUSES LUNG CANCER?

Smoking is the number one cause of lung cancer. Lung cancer may also be the most tragic cancer because in most cases, it might have been prevented -- 87% of lung cancer cases are caused by smoking. Cigarette smoke contains more than 4,000 different chemicals, many of which are proven cancer-causing substances, or carcinogens. Smoking cigars or pipes also increases the risk of lung cancer.

The more time and quantity you smoke, the greater your risk of lung cancer. But if you stop smoking, the risk of lung cancer decreases each year as normal cells replace abnormal cells. After ten years, the risk drops to a level that is one-third to one-half of the risk for people who continue to smoke. In addition, quitting smoking greatly reduces the risk of developing other smoking-related diseases, such as heart disease, stroke, emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Many of the chemicals in tobacco smoke also affect the nonsmoker inhaling the smoke, making "secondhand smoking" another important cause of lung cancer. It is responsible for approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths and as many as 50,000 deaths from heart disease annually.

www.lungusa.org...


87% of people who get lung cancer are smokers.

Seems to me that the evidence that lung cancer is caused by smoking is overwhelming.
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