Yup, that's our government. Can you believe that they would punish someone for being celebate? I do.

This is an all too familiar story. I at first wondered if I was not reading about someone I knew, until I realized that it could be a couple of people I have known. I have personally known immigrants that could literally not live in their hometown in Central/South America because of being gay.

Who is a judge to say someone is not gay enough? Can we start judging people for not being "straight enough?" Because I know a lot of immigrants that I believe are definitely not straight enough to be with their wives.



*Edit for spelling*

[edit on 2/9/07 by niteboy82]

Perhaps he didn't find someone of his type yet???

If this isn't government invading personal life, then I don't know what is.

Well, I don't see how you can judge how gay someone is, I don't think they get many Judy Garland movies in Nicaragua.

However, if the guy thought he would be killed for being gay, even if he wasn't gay, then wouldn't that qualify him for sanctuary?

What I'm saying is, even if he wasn't gay, but his dad thought he was and would beat him or even kill him because of it, then shouldn't that qualify him whether he's gay or not?

Although, I could understand the judge's decision if this guy had in fact had heterosexual relations while in Canada

I don't really think being gay and fearing domestic abuse rises to the level of qualifying for refugee status, unless it is a government policy to kill gays. It seems to me he could have moved within his country to escape whatever bad situation he was facing.

That being said, however, if Canada had already approved him as a refugee, I don't see how they could follow him and say he's not having enough gay sex and then expel him.

The whole thing seems pretty ridiculous.

Originally posted by intrepid
Yup, that's our government. Can you believe that they would punish someone for being celebate? I do.

the british punished someone over here too, for being celebate. for me just leave the geezer alone

for some who say just move to another city or whatever, you do not know the lenghs some will goto to hound people. take it from me, a case i know of in britain, if he moved anywhere in britain, his life would be destroyed. so i do not think it is farfetched for someone to seek asylum for this. some situations are weird, and are outside the norm. we live in an age where we are told that everyone is ok with it, but that simply is not the case. it is amazing to think how far people would go to hound people and wreck there lifes.

for me he should be left in canada.

man how can the judge know, did the defendent have to wave his hands in a gay manner or something. did you see in the article how they said he was softly spoken, is that a definition of being gay or something.

but the geezer is right, pretending you are something you are not can get you into trouble, but heck now he has to go back.

[edit on 2/9/2007 by andy1033]

just a question :

do you actually have to be gay to suffer homophobia ?

or just have some mental migdet think you are and take " appropriate " < sic > action ?

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
do you actually have to be gay to suffer homophobia ?

Good point. I think there are plenty of examplels of people who were beaten up or even killed by someone who just thought they were gay, when in fact they weren't.

Any attempt to determine a man or womans degree of sexual preference is absolutely absurd in my opinion. Can anyone gather a scheme to determine what degree I fall into when it comes to a preference of women? What floors me is that people feel that homosexuals need to fit this standard of "flaming", or that celebacy is completely hypocritical. When I first read opening post to the thread, I was hoping that it was coming from some sort of tabloid. Something had to be wrong with the source itself, as it can not be true. But to my disdain, it seems to be true.

Nobody ever attempts to measure someone's heterosexuality, so why this effort to measure someone's homosexuality? I'm having trouble understanding how homosexuality was enough to grant him refugee status, but I hardly see how his apparent "lack" of homosexuality is enough to deport him.

I wonder how Stevey boy is going to play this one off. Maher Arar took home a big pay day for a previous blunder, something the Conservatives were more than willing to offer restitution. Now we are shipping out homosexuals. No matter what the details are, and this thread is the perfect example, it is all about the headlines. This one doesn't look too good.



[edit on 10-2-2007 by chissler]

Canada must be pretty gay to pull this kind of behavior, lol. Why is the government getting involved in this, they should stay out of a person's sex life. Is this normal behavior from a socialist government?

Just wondering, in Canada, does the government reward it's "gayest" citizens, like hand out awards as rewards for categories like "most active," "most outrageous," and "most fabulous?"

This is what happens when you give the government the right to care about what your sexual orientation is. Personally, I think the government should keep out of it and civil unions should be held by anyone who fills out paperwork.

What a weird story !! I'm wondering how the judge would define "Gay Enough" ? If you're Gay you're Gay I would have thought.

He left at age 12, which means that someone adopted him, right? If he was legally adopted, then why wouldn't he have refugee status, or apply for a citizenship at the age of 18?