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Originally posted by Xeros
93 MB file? Ya, like that's gonna fit on youtube. That is irrelevant to this thread anyway. We are speaking about your self confessed "mind blowing" video posted, remember? Can you at least try to shorten the file anyway and make a new thread? I'm sure someone here would be more than happy to make it viewable.
Originally posted by Frozenthought
Originally posted by Xeros
93 MB file? Ya, like that's gonna fit on youtube. That is irrelevant to this thread anyway. We are speaking about your self confessed "mind blowing" video posted, remember? Can you at least try to shorten the file anyway and make a new thread? I'm sure someone here would be more than happy to make it viewable.
I have already shortened this next clip (The House sized ORB) so it will fit on Youtube, the full clip came in at 120 MB, Youtube only will take a file up to 100 MB, Why would I want to shorten it even more, Wouldn't you like to see as much of this object as possible?
[edit on 16-2-2007 by Frozenthought]
Originally posted by Frozenthought
Originally posted by CthulhuRising
Oh please send it to Defcon 5 if you can win him over you can do anything!
Uh, No, They can kiss my a**, sorry but after all the BS they have slung my way, I will not be doing them any favors, Anybody that has been a half way decent person towards me and talked about this in a adult like way even if you diagreed with me, I will share with them and they can report back to what they see.
The rest can wait until it's up on youtube...Mid April.
Originally posted by davidbiedny
I'll try to make this clear, so IceHead can wrap his brain around it:
The footage that JH80 posted does indeed look different than the stuff posted by Frosty, in that the plane is CLOSER and then is DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. Michael, had you left your camera on and had the PLANE you shot come up and over you, it would likely have looked pretty darned similar, if not EXACTLY the same.
The first part of the footage posted by JH80 is indeed REALLY, REALLY close to the stuff you posted. Get it? Or am I being obtuse? The second part of the footage is a continuation of the first. It's the same plane, unless JH80 is lying. I fail to see why JH80 would misrepresent what he's posted. It's not his OPINION or BELIEF it's a plane, the footage speaks for itself. As far as I know, he's not selling anything, no vested interest in one position or another. BTW, neither am I - you can listen to my podcast for FREE, no $$$, nada. I share my knowledge with anyone who wants it. And you know what? I've never claimed to be a UFO researcher. Check it out - I'm a student of the paranormal. I admit that I'm learning, as are we all, no love or fear token required. You, on the other hand, state that you're an "avid UFO researcher" in your bio on Sereda's marketing site for his "film". So, what methods do you employ for your research? Fear or love? How do you analyze your footage? What software do you use? Who in the UFO field do you look up to as a mentor? Sereda?
Better yet - you see a UFO in broad daylight, along with a hundred other people.
Are they aliens? How do you know?
Are they crypto-terrestrial beings? Interdimensional sentient lifeforms?
What do you KNOW, and what do you BELIEVE? How do you differentiate the two?
What research methods do you put to the task of analyzing the situation? Belief? Intuition? What motivates your conclusions or ability to confer with peers for review? Agreements with your business partner, who demands you NOT release footage for the fear that those with no vested interest in your project will possibly determine that it's not paranormal in nature? Ever heard of collaboration and integrity? Academic sharing of evidence in service of the process of elimination? Deductive reasoning?
I went on a another thread on a web page for a decent podcast show - Mysterious Universe - and added my comment about my opinion regarding your footage. Sorry if you didn't like that - freedom of speech and all. You can come on ATS and make HUGE claims, and some of us will put them to the test. We will not consider the world in the childish light of "fear or love", that nonsense is for weak-minded automatons who lack critical thinking skills. Thank goodness, my brain is still fairly sharp, and my desire to understand the REALITY of UFOs is not clouded by any beliefs or economic agenda. My integrity is all I have, and I value it above all else.
That's it for my input in this thread. Michael Lee Hill, you might indeed have some interesting footage in your possession, but this junk ain't it. Your defensiveness speaks volumes, dude. Rock on with your Andromeda DVD, I'm sure all four people who buy it will adore the music. YOU ROCK, DUDE.
Thanks to those of you who gave me kind feedback, and for keeping the fire for the truth burning bright. This is a important thing, the quest for understanding the UFO phenomena, and we shouldn't let egos, money and noise get in the way of the search for understanding.
dB
Originally posted by Frozenthought
I have already shortened this next clip (The House sized ORB) so it will fit on Youtube, the full clip came in at 120 MB, Youtube only will take a file up to 100 MB, Why would I want to shorten it even more,
>Bruce: Have you seen this?
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Thanks for the message.
Airplane headlights seems to be the consensus on the Updates email list.
I concur with that.
Originally posted by Xeros
I look forward to the rense broadcast tonight on this footage, as alot of critical thinking people are now aware. Hopefully they will take some calls. This thread is a testament to all the great people out there, who will not stand for this sort of 'evidence'.
Frozenthought, I hope that you are genuine, I really do, but this video and thread will serve as a reminder to all interested in unbiased researching into UFOlogy.
[edit on 16-2-2007 by Xeros]
Originally posted by Frozenthought
Originally posted by Xeros
I look forward to the rense broadcast tonight on this footage, as alot of critical thinking people are now aware. Hopefully they will take some calls. This thread is a testament to all the great people out there, who will not stand for this sort of 'evidence'.
Frozenthought, I hope that you are genuine, I really do, but this video and thread will serve as a reminder to all interested in unbiased researching into UFOlogy.
[edit on 16-2-2007 by Xeros]
What all 3 or 4 of you not standing for this type of evidence, how about the over 100,000 people have watched the video and the majority who are with me....We don't know what it is? All of those people don't count? just you folks opinion counts huh, if that is being open minded?
[edit on 16-2-2007 by Frozenthought]
Originally posted by Lost_Mind
You know what, Oral Roberts and Deepak Chopra and even more so Benny Hinn et al, all tapped into the same resource you and Sereda and others are tapping into, the unwashed masses. $$$ with no thought, nothing but feeling behind them.
Originally posted by Frozenthought
I guess you didn't see the thread where i wanted to share the single Orb video here with people at ATS but was convinced by other members to not do so because we would have to keep it jest between us for the time being because I promissed David I wouldn't release anymore footage until the film is released? ATS members convinced me that I wouldn't be able to contaol keeping it private.
Regarding part #2, The second video looks nothing like mine? At first you can clearly see there are three set's of lights?
The first part of the footage posted by JH80 is indeed REALLY, REALLY close to the stuff you posted. Get it? Or am I being obtuse? The second part of the footage is a continuation of the first. It's the same plane, unless JH80 is lying. I fail to see why JH80 would misrepresent what he's posted. It's not his OPINION or BELIEF it's a plane, the footage speaks for itself. As far as I know, he's not selling anything, no vested interest in one position or another.
how about the over 100,000 people have watched the video and the majority who are with me....
I feel that Frozenthought is absolutely genuine in his reaction to his video during the footage, and in his posts here on ATS