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Daniel & Anna Nicole Smith (murdered)?

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posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 01:43 AM
As far as Anna being a Gold Digger. The Old Guy loved to go to stripper bars - - and begged her to marry him for years.

She told him she wanted to make it on her own first. Years later after she did Playboy and had some success is when she agreed to marry him. She said she loved him - because he was always there to help her when she needed it - - and he also helped her financially with Daniel.

I believe she truly did love him in her own way.

FACT: he asked her to marry him - she was his legal wife - entitled to part of his estate.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 04:40 AM
Very sad story.

It's all so strange. The son of the tycoon dies, then her son dies at her hospital bedside, after she gave birth to a child, who has two fathers fighting for paternity. The boyfriend wanted DNA tests done, so he must be confident he is the father. Then he would be the guardian of the baby and her inheritance. All these deaths occuring in such a strange set of circumstances, seems like murder.

What about this Trimspa diet she was on? At one time it had federa (sp?) that was bad for the heart, so that could have contributed to her death. Losing that much weight, in that short of time isn't good. On Larry king, the Trimspa wife of te CEO was one, what a fake she was !

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 04:42 AM
Family was inherently off the plot. I will put money on her overdosing. Makes me laugh how every story in the news has to be some huge conspiracy. Perhaps this whole site is a huge conspiracy just to get society so nervous and mistrusting that we self implode in paranoia.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 06:28 AM

Originally posted by mooonhoxe
Here's my theory. They both commited suicide. Daniel did it right after the birth of his sister. She did it right before the DNA tests on her daughter are to be done. The baby girl is Daniel's daughter/sister. I know it sounds gross, but it kinda makes sense.

I've heard this theory, and that's all it is - a theory, that Danni Lynn is the result of an incestuous relationship between Anna Nicole and her son, Daniel.

I can see all the theories about her death, motives, etc. as being plausible.

For me, she seems to have been whacked-out on drugs for a number of years, and her drug use may simply have caught up with her.

Most anything is possible. I hope it will be cleared up in the coming months.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 06:38 AM
As far as i see it

the son got a hold of his mums pills , and OD'd
Anna, so mentally anguised over being responsbile for her sons death, and the bicker over who was her daughters father.. just couldnt handle it and felt taking her life was the only thing left.

She probably didn want to put her daughter in a situation where she would also follow her sons path.

I think both cases are tragic self inflicted deaths.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 07:11 AM
Gee, put that way, it sounds a lot like Days of Our Lives !

But my theories are far darker.

Behind every successful woman lurk shady men who exploit them for profit and power.

They don't need to twist certain womens' arms up their back and make them infamous by force.

No, there are millions of attractive females on every street corner, desperate to please if it will lead them luxury and fame.

Then they get in too deep. They get scared or sickened. Some have a change of heart and want to get out. But their minders tell them to swallow the nice little pill and take a nice rest and everything will look different in the morning.

Minders come in all shapes and suit styles. Some are accountants. Some are rich benefactors. Some are heavies. Some are doctors and psychiatrists. Some are lawyers.

Soon the woman's on a merry go round of tablets, drugs, threats, coercion, promises, betrayals.

She's a commodity. She has a use-by date. She's meat on legs.

All the men in suits are living off her. They loan her out, sell her, trade her, abuse her, use her, film her, compromise her and use her to compromise others.

ANS was the ticket to an old man's fortune and like Monroe was most probably used to compromise politicians and other handy types.

She was regarded as 'difficult'. Maybe she tried once too often to assert herself in retaliation for being pimped by the guys in suits.

Warning One: shut your mouth & do as you're told or the son gets it.


Warning Two: shut your mouth bitch. Bye.

Who needed Anna Nicole any more. She'd had the baby. That made Anna Nicole redundant.

Now the suits have the baby. It's reportedly the key to the safety deposit box.

The very public fight over paternity is probably a grey-suit version of a common turf war. In the end, the suits will probably compromise and split the heist.

Then the baby will be redundant too.

If Anna Nicole hadn't decided to have two kilos of silicone pushed inside her chest wall, she could still be living unhappily as a single parent in the boondocks somewhere.

I'll bet she comes back as a man, next time.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 07:26 AM

Originally posted by seentoomuch
Are you talking about the son of her ex-husband's? Here's a snip from a news article, 6/24/2006 "E. Pierce Marshall died unexpectedly earlier this week in the Dallas area from a brief and extremely aggressive infection, the family said in a written statement released through spokesman David Margulies". Maybe Howard K. had a layover in Dallas the day before?

Her son's death, if that's what you meant:

They said that his death was due to him being on anti-depressants and taking a small amount of methadone. The synergistic relationship between the two being deadly. Howard K. was in the room as he died. There are rumors that Howard K. was seen flushing medicine down the toilet before the police arrived. The formal inquest in which Howard K. is expected to be the major witness has not been held yet. It is scheduled for March I believe.

edit for extra info.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by seentoomuch]

Marshall was her late husband's son, not her ex husband's son. Danny was her ex-husband's son.

Hopefully, Larry won't suddenly die as well.

[edit on 2/9/2007 by Jessicamsa]

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 08:01 AM

Originally posted by mooonhoxe
Here's my theory. They both commited suicide. Daniel did it right after the birth of his sister. She did it right before the DNA tests on her daughter are to be done. The baby girl is Daniel's daughter/sister. I know it sounds gross, but it kinda makes sense.

As sick as this sounds... Many were always pointing to their relationship being very 'touchy feely'. My son and I are 15 yrs apart. We are best friends.

I have watched those two together and they are very much like my son and I... however, there was always a certain kind of way he looked at his mother that I have NEVER witnessed a child do before.

One pic that sticks out is the one in the raft. Yes, my son looks upon me adoringly... but not like that. Not like a man looks at 'any woman'.

I would love to believe Howard murdered them and he'd fry but I cant right now. Not from what my minds eye sees.

I, at this point, somewhat agree and am very relieved Im not the only one who thought this... for it is truly disgusting.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:08 AM
Thanks for straightening that out Jessica, It was pretty late when I wrote that post.

Just saw this on Drudge, evidently Anna Nicole's attorney is going to fight against having a DNA sample taken from Anna Nicole.

Still don't know where the baby is, has anyone here heard anything?

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:11 AM
Come on... server space is precious enough...stop wasting it on threads about a dead blonde bimbo.... at least Marlyn Monroe had talent, was actually attractive and genuinely interesting.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:12 AM
Some of you really need to get out more. Serioulsy, a celeb died - granted a messed up one, but you are coming out with multi party conspiracy theories and God knows what else rubbish.

Just let the tragic rest in peace.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:45 AM
I was looking for some quotes, resources but couldn't find any. I remember seeing or hearing that Anna thought the Billonare's family was behind her son's death. If that was true maybe they pull a Marylin Monroe on her, like they are always saying JFK's people might have done to her.

It just seems awfully strange that a hot babe who only 39, just lost a bunch of weight, drop's dead. There will be some kind of drugs involved no doubt. But I bet you it wasn't voluntarily. No body does themselves with a little child like that.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 10:42 AM
It reminds me a lot of the Michael Hutchins, Paula Yates, Bob Geldoff and Tigerlily saga from about 10 years ago.
Michael from INXS hung himself during a sex act, Paula overdosed shortly after and then a huge custody battle broke out with custody of their daughter Tigerlily going to Bob Geldoff. (Paulas ex-husband and Michaels arch enemy.)

I think that was the last celebrity drama that even closely resembles this.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:46 AM
The only thing that doesn't make sense about Stern murdering her is that if the other guy turns out to be the father, and I think he is, Stern gets nothing out of it. What would be the point? Maybe we should be looking at J. Howard Marshall's kid as a possible suspect. Maybe not directly, but indirectly.


posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:54 AM
i don't know if i can choke down that howard and anna were "partners" in some sort of relationship. he has a girlfriend.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Dr Love
The only thing that doesn't make sense about Stern murdering her is that if the other guy turns out to be the father, and I think he is, Stern gets nothing out of it. What would be the point? Maybe we should be looking at J. Howard Marshall's kid as a possible suspect. Maybe not directly, but indirectly.


It does make sense if you think about it. Maybe they thought that if they were in another country, the laws of the US and jurisdiction were out the window. Didn't someone here just post that in the Bahamas, the name down as the father proves paternity? So maybe they thought that they would never have to turn over DNA to the US courts?

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 12:40 PM

I hate celebs

You heard about Steve Irwin... what about Peter Brock?

People die. Thats why its called life.

LOL YEAH no one with kids does drugs its unheard of.

Its called the real world.

If you havent noticed most of the rich and famous dont care about anyone but themselves.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by seenitall]

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 03:41 PM
Sorry if anything doesnt show up correctly, but I just joined yesterday.

I just read on CNN that some Prince is now claiming that HE is the father of Ann Nicole's baby.

On another note, I heard on a CNN broadcast today that the nurse that was with Anna Nicole didnt call the paramedics when she started choking on her own vomit, she just called the front desk of the hotel they were at.

There is something that is VERY fishy about all of the circumstances surrounding her death. This is definitelt going to end up in the realm of the CT.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 05:48 PM

Originally posted by seentoomuch
(Bet Howard K. and baby were on a flight to the Bahamas within the hour, my comment).


My Thoughts

Howard K. helped her along to her grave, just as he did with her son. I bet he was the one who set up the interview with her totally out of it so that it would be nationally known that she was a drug taker. But I think he kept saying, "Have another pill, Honey, you're under a lot of stress". The money in litigation would be the motive. The baby if it were his would doubly guarantee the money would go to him. They were married in an unofficial agreement ceremony but I bet a will was signed within the last two weeks or so.

He reminds me of Dr. Hill and the Robinson case. Joan Robinson Hill was given a deadly illness due to her husband growing infectious microbes and injecting her with them so that he would inherit her fortune along with their small son. Texas justice being what it is John Hill had a visit from two men with sawed off shotguns and is no more. Most people believe it was Ashe Robinson, the father of Joan who upon the results of further testing on his buried daughter decided the case. Anna Nicole's family is in Mexia, Texas.

STM, interesting tidbit on Texas justice. How does she keep hooking up with guys named Howard?

The news is saying that the baby was born in the Bahamas and has never left there. The grandmother is going there to check on her, Anna's mom.

They also say that Howard K. did country shopping when he moved them there. To find a place where the law suited his needs for when the baby was born. Much will rest on the coroner's report and how the Bahama's will handle the custody issue.

So if the baby wasn't with her, who was the 'nurse' with Anna then? A handler, hairdresser/makeup artist? The girls interviewed on tv, who knew and worked with her, think she's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Here's what I find interesting (after catching up some on her story from the first marriage):

James Howard Marshall II, the First, was an expert in trusts and estates. Was even a professor in it at Yale Law School.

You'd think he would have had his own fortunes sewn up tight when he married the broad at 89.

posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 08:16 PM
There are so many different directions this case could turn; it is like a bad soap opera.

I'm still leaning in the direction of Howard K. being involved. Her son died in her hospital room with Howard K. present. No nurse was called until he had already expired. At one point it was reported that he most likely had seizures and vomiting before death, and yet no one was called to the room.

Anna Nicole checked into the Hard Rock Casino/Hotel complaining of stomach flu, though she was still able to visit the casino that night. Also she fell in the tub and bruised her upper back.

Sometime after this, I'm not sure of how long, she was running a 105 degree temperature. She was put into the tub with ice to bring her temp down. At this point why wasn't she brought to the hospital? Or, why wasn't a doctor called? Don't they have a house doctor? Who made these decisions? The ice bath helped and she was put in bed.

Stern called the producers of Entertainment Tonight who had filmed a interview with Anna Nicole before they left for Florida. He told them that she was ill and that he was deeply concerned. They were puzzled by the phone call as the filming was complete and no further filming was scheduled.

Then the next day they found Anna Nicole collapsed in her bathroom and Stern was there when the paramedics arrived to detail the medications she was on for them. The medical examiner said that he was going to have a long, detailed interview with the "nurse". Once again someone had died with Stern in close proximity, and once again the deceased had not received proper medical treatment when it was clearly called for. And today the Bahamian justice system let it be known that with the second passing the inquest into Anna Nicole's son's death will be very interesting.

Also note that the son of Anna's late husband died at a fairly young age from a infection that literally killed him in a couple of days. Also note that he was the one standing between Anna/Stern and the Marshalls' money.

Also, Anna's sister made a statement that Anna's family (in Mexia) were going to do their best to make Howard K. answer for this. In the courts if possible. I would bet money that no matter how this all turns out that Howard K. is no longer with us in 2 - 3 years. Texas has some interesting traditions.

And today they said that Anna Nicole's baby daughter is being cared for by the Bahamian Information Minister's wife, who was close friends with Anna Nicole. Last heard Stern is hiding under a rock in Florida somewhere.

I won't even go into the Prince who claims to be the father.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by seentoomuch]

[edit on 9-2-2007 by seentoomuch]

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