Obama's Church: Not Your Average Christian Church, page 8

Lets take it one by one, and show why they are different.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
(I have replaced the Obama-Church 'black' words with the word 'white')

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community

The white community isn't nearly as oppressed and downtrodden as the underclass black ghettos. In order to bring the black community to social equality, they must work to bring each other up. The white community by and large isn't oppressed and doesn't need the same type of support.

3. Commitment to the White Family

See above.

4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic

Again, as an underclass grows, it needs to have faith in itself and have the support of it's community. By defining a social work ethic it makes it easier for the underclass and underprivileged to identify with those who have been successful using that same ethic. It also really helps if those who made it came from the same place they did.

7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"

If Middleclassness means what I think it does, at least in the context of reverend Wright's sermons, I don't disagree with this. Often the middle class is in a position where they work more towards somewhat selfish goals. By that I mean they are in a position where they can't necessarily afford to help those in need because they are on the brink of this position themselves. They must maintain their own status quo. This often comes at the expense of those who have less in their community.

They often also live in areas fairly displaced from those of lower income. This leads to the "out of sight, out of mind" mentality that plagues this country. By avoiding the middleclassness, no matter what one's income is, one is able to identify with those more in need than one's self, and help them as if they were of the same class, which should be the goal of every American.

9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community

For the most part the controlling white community doesn't need to share it's wealth with their community. The rest of the community has enough of their own wealth to support itself.

10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions

Very often black businesses fail because of their location and the income level of their patrons. I don't see what the problem is with supporting businesses in one's neighborhood.

11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System

Again, the black value system he speaks of is the support and help that the black community should give to each other to help itself out of the slums and ghettos in which they've been forced to live for centuries. Why should we not support leaders who share that view?

12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

See above

BTW .. if it really were committed to God, then it's pastor would spend time talking about GOD instead of hanging with terrorists in Libya and instead of continually whining about how he thinks whitey has, and continues to, destroy black people.

The role of any community leader is to help their community better itself. God is a means for this man to get a message of brotherly love, and community support to the masses. If he were to only talk about God, and not talk about the community, then he'd be failing in his duties as a leader.

This isn't about White power/black power, it's about the empowerment of an oppressed people.

Silly me .. I thought Church was about the worship of GOD.

See above

And if you are going to sit there ant tell me that black people ...

'If I'm going to sit there and tell you ... etc etc ' Oh please ... you are projecting.

Not really. You seem to be more upset about his use of the word black to his black congregation than you do about the positive message and values that he's conveying to people who need to hear it. SPecifically the points you seened to gloss over like...

1. Commitment to God
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence

7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect......

And all other points that lead to the betterment of one's community.

It sounds to me like you don't see the underclass black community as having been oppressed, and in need of uplifting.

I'm 'sitting here' and I'm 'telling you' that this isn't a Church ... it's a racist political/social organization that is anti-white. Period.

Do they pray to God? Then it's a church. As I said above, the role of a church is to uplift it's congregation. It's also there to help the community (or should be). All this man is doing is pointing out the already painfully obvious destruction that white America has brought upon colored people (black brown and red) throughout the history of this country. Spanning from Spanish conquistadors to modern day clansmen dragging black people to their deaths behind their pickup trucks, the European influence on North America has been largely a destructive force on those not of European decent.

That's not to say that anyone of European origin is a destructive person mind you.

[edit on 9-8-2007 by Rasobasi420]

[edit on 9-8-2007 by Rasobasi420]