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posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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There are many rumours that the Vatican library contains hidden knowledge. What have you heard?




posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 08:44 PM
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I don't know, but it is an interesting post! Here are a couple I googled I hope it helps! Maybe someone else has some other info!


Secret Vatican Archives

Vatican's Web Site!

More Secrets

Good Luck!



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 08:54 PM
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I am interested the subject of suppressed information within vatican circles, and I have read about it vagely. If I may ask about something less along the lines of conspiracy: Is it confirmed by the Church that they have the original texts that have been correlated into the bible(I guessing majority of new testament only)?



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posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 09:01 PM
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It's know to some level that the vatican library contains some manuscripts from the dead sea, rumor has it that the manuscripts contain what we are and where we come from, who made us.
Some say they won't be made public because it would be shocking.
It may be only a rumor, who knows.



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 09:32 PM
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Yes the other books which did not make it to the bible are called the Gnostic gospels. I beleive that these are kept deep within the Vatican library. It has also been rumoured that there are proof of extraterrestrials within the Vatican. Recently there was an attempt to gain this information by a lawyer of UFOs from the Vatican and the Vatican denied teh request. Obviously they know something. . You can check the video out below.

youtube.com...



There are also rumours that there is a sea of pornography kept deep in the Vatican libraries.



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 10:12 PM
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Yes, it is true the Gnostic Gospels are in the Vatican...

Including one by Mary Magdolin her self. And one by Judas I believe.

But other then a few suppressed documents from the begining of the church, most of the library is actually filled with old legal procedings, request and order forms for the commision of artist, like Brini and Davinci
But also other anti-christ ideologies and their original documents like........ the Earth revolvs around the sun.
Poor Galileo. Brought about the wrath of the Church. Documentation regarding the existant of the Templars, all their legal procedings, all records of how much and why in regards to the mass amounts of money given to them by the Church.. many original manuscripts.. Mostly legal junk though, but no doubt that legal junk would be an intereting read!



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 10:13 PM
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Sorry I should have elaborated that there is two different libraries that are considered seceret. The Archives of the Vatican and also the Popes private Archive. What exactly is in the Popes archive is unknown, only the Pope and his personal secretary of the Archives would know. But thats where all the good and interesting stuff is most likely kept. Like the third secret of Fatima.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Yes, it is true the Gnostic Gospels are in the Vatican...

Including one by Mary Magdolin her self. And one by Judas I believe.

But other then a few suppressed documents from the begining of the church, most of the library is actually filled with old legal procedings, request and order forms for the commision of artist, like Brini and Davinci
But also other anti-christ ideologies and their original documents like........ the Earth revolvs around the sun.
Poor Galileo. Brought about the wrath of the Church. Documentation regarding the existant of the Templars, all their legal procedings, all records of how much and why in regards to the mass amounts of money given to them by the Church.. many original manuscripts.. Mostly legal junk though, but no doubt that legal junk would be an intereting read!


Yes it is interesting, today's cutting edge technology would have been yesterday's herecy . I know that the Vatican had a really neat telescope a long time before anyone else did. Much of what they discovered in the ehavens, even as early as Galileo is still kept quiet. They were and are advanced and are good at keeping it quiet for the most part.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Lightman9202
Yes the other books which did not make it to the bible are called the Gnostic gospels. I beleive that these are kept deep within the Vatican library. It has also been rumoured that there are proof of extraterrestrials within the Vatican. Recently there was an attempt to gain this information by a lawyer of UFOs from the Vatican and the Vatican denied teh request. Obviously they know something. . You can check the video out below.

youtube.com...



There are also rumours that there is a sea of pornography kept deep in the Vatican libraries.







while u mentioned UFOs and religion, i have heard somewhere that in a picture painted by Da Vinci (i'm pretty sure it was him) of the Holy Mary (and i am also unsure whether it was her) that there is an object in the background in the sky. when curators looked closely at the object through a magnifying glass they noticed it was shaped like a flying saucer, while others speculated it was a just paint that dripped onto the canvas.

try and find something about it, i can't but i do remember seeing something about it on either History Channel or Discovery.


(i am not saying its true, or that i believe it, only that i vaguely remember seeing something about it)



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Yes, it is true the Gnostic Gospels are in the Vatican...

Including one by Mary Magdolin her self. And one by Judas I believe.

But other then a few suppressed documents from the begining of the church, most of the library is actually filled with old legal procedings, request and order forms for the commision of artist, like Brini and Davinci
But also other anti-christ ideologies and their original documents like........ the Earth revolvs around the sun.
Poor Galileo. Brought about the wrath of the Church. Documentation regarding the existant of the Templars, all their legal procedings, all records of how much and why in regards to the mass amounts of money given to them by the Church.. many original manuscripts.. Mostly legal junk though, but no doubt that legal junk would be an intereting read!



wasn't Copernicus the one who thought of the idea? or did he only prove that Galileo was right? i always seem to switch stuff like this, bad habit of mine



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyPolakwhile u mentioned UFOs and religion, i have heard somewhere that in a picture painted by Da Vinci (i'm pretty sure it was him) of the Holy Mary (and i am also unsure whether it was her) that there is an object in the background in the sky.


You're referring to the painting of the Maddona and child by Domenico Ghirlandaio, which is not hidden in the Vatican. Look at these page for that image as well as other UFO paintings:

www.qtm.net...

www.ufonet.be...

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posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:34 PM
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wow i was completely off, thats for clearing that up




like i said, it was a vague memory



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 05:52 PM
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I haven't but has anyone had any luck finding alleged satanic material from leaked from the Vatican archives.

I know Leo Zagami states on his websites confirms that there is a "jinn" (his name for an extraterrestrial similar to that of a reptilian) controlling operations within the vatican and acting as point of contact for someone/something that is undisclosed. And I am going to look on his website concerning suppressed knowledge and possibly email him concerning the subject since he is no stranger apparently to the vatican

here is his website its in the archives somewhere:

www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it...

note: He is apparently safe since using his contacts to set up a personal security service that looks after him.

I'll post back soon.

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posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyPolak
wow i was completely off, thats for clearing that up


My pleasure. You should look at the artwork of "Gulliver Travels." Without a doubt there is a UFO in the drawing.




Originally posted by Selmer2
I haven't but has anyone had any luck finding alleged satanic material from leaked from the Vatican archives.


I haven't heard of them keeping Satanic texts, but they do use writings dealing with Satanic material, used to train their priests in exorcisms. Believe it or not, they teach classes on demonology to use along with the exorcisms.


I know Leo Zagami states on his websites confirms that there is a "jinn" (his name for an extraterrestrial similar to that of a reptilian)


If it's the same type of Jinn Muslims believe, then it's a spirit, rather than an evil entity. Jinns (meaning "hidden") were known to be under service to King Solomon, and also as an aide to other humans. They like humans have free will, which means that they can also be evil. The ones who are evil are known as "shaitans" (deceivers). The one known as Lucifer/Iblis/Satan (shaitan), was once a jinn but transformed to a shaitan when he disobeyed God's orders, in Islam. The term "Jinn" has been used in many folklore and myths, including those of Gennies (Jinnis) in American stories.

If that guy is saying that there is a Jinn in the Vatican, then he might refer to this type of jinn.

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posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 09:15 PM
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Googled: Vatican jinn

came up with this article...

www.arcticbeacon.com...

The insider from the Vatican is Monsignor Corrado Balducci.
According to excerpt this guy admits aliens:

Lastly, regarding Monsignor Balducci's claim that extraterrestrial's exist on earth, an excerpt from an article by Richard Boylan, written Jan. 13, had this to say:



Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italian national television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon.

Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the

Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due to psychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully."



Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.



Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries. But subsequent information indicated that the Monsignor has gotten his cases from other sources. Monsignor Balducci is a member of a group which acts as consultants to the Vatican on various matters concerning humans in possible contact with supernatural beings. As such, the matter of extraterrestrial encounters would fall within their purview, and possibly as well the spiritual significance of the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.



Parallel information from National Security Council scientist Dr. Michael Wolf , a member of the NSC's SSG subcommittee for managing the UFO phenomenon, as well as from noted author and Vatican expert Father Malachi Martin, suggests that the Vatican is concerned that it will have a major doctrinal updating situation on its hands when extraterrestrial contact becomes authoritatively announced by world governments over the next several years







interesting to say the least.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 10:33 PM
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Lightman9202 all I can say is wow thanks for this....

If these alleged comments are reality I can see the connection with the conspiracy of the NWO concerning the last comment. If this is disclosed to the public in succession this will give reason perphaps for some sort of unification? Lets just say assume for now that the 3rd Fatima message was false and the alleged leaked one was legitimate, this brings me to an obvious thought, the vatican is hiding something. The real one states that "satan has control of the church" being the vatican it is symbolic for churches worldwide and considered by many the epicentre of religion. Thus with this idea we can assume that the Mother of God means this literally. i guess "the greatest thing the devil did was to decieve the world" is an understatment


Thanx DJMessiah I had a look at various definitions of Jinn, it seems like the pure definition means exactly what you say but im finding maybe a modern misinterpritation since dictionaries are saying it belongs to muslim demonology. Hard to say I guess.

Very intresting guys.


P.S. im sorry I haven't posted references or voluntered info im currently running around my campus atm.

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posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 10:44 PM
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first off, its a metephor, kept beneath the vatican, is symbolic of the control and distribution of knowlege. of course they have secret knowledge.

these are ancient priest hoods we are talking about.
not your local bishop down the street,
althoug if your local bishop can prove himself im sure hes privy to a few scinece experiment conclusions.



posted on Aug, 27 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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here is an interesting series on youtube exposing the vatican

www.youtube.com...



posted on Nov, 1 2008 @ 05:23 PM
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I believe that the Archives are kept secret because they contain some damaging information about the Catholic Church, and Christianity. There could be no other reason to keep history so secret.





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