Originally posted by jritzmann
I personally dont see the color as any issue. I've got some cell pics that are pretty brilliant actually.
But as vibrant and colorful as anonymous' UFO photo's posted in this thread??? I don't think so.
Also, I personally think that the color tonalities, vibrancy, and brightness in whatever photo's are posted in this forum IS AN ISSUE when determining if a photo is from a cam phone or not and if the photo has been tampered with or not.
I do see the common chromatic issues that are associated with camera phone lenses, that I dont think would be present within a reshoot scenario, and if they were used in such a way I'd expect them to be twice as bad.
I beg to disagree with you on this because if the lighting conditions are right, a reshoot of a photo may even result in a MORE vibrantly colored and brighter photo than the original. I'm an illustrator and graphic artist and was doing this type of work waaay before we started using computers in graphic arts and way before Photoshop was even invented. In the old days we always did reshoots on our artwork and many times we did such routine reshoots to BRING OUT THE COLORS.... LOL. Unlike today where everything is done by computer, camera's were an essential tool in graphic art production work.
I think Edward's shots of color
Those photo's posted by Edward in this thread DO NOT have any EXIF Information about them. I found this out after I opened them in an editor to find out that that information is not attched with those photo's. So this means that the photo's Edward posted in this thread are not directly from his cam phone or whatever camera he used to take them. This said, I'm hoping that Edward will post the original photo from his cam phone directly into this forum from his cam because I would like to know what cam phone he was using that takes pictures with such vibrant colors and that other information provided in the EXIF Information box when the photo is loaded into an image editor.
has an equal amount of saturation, and show the same aspects we see in other cell cam shots, a relatively hot center and more often then not in high contrast areas, the inability of cell cams to relate accurately some spectral data. I see this in both Ed's (second more high contrast shot) and the LaSalle shots. There is an overall purple/blue-red wash over the pictures consistent with limitations of cell cams.
An overall purple/blue-red wash... consistent with cell cams? I don't think so. I've never seen such VIBRANT tonal variations in cam phone photo's like anonymous' UFO photo's -- purple/blue wash or whatever.... I do not believe that such vibrant tonalities are CONSISTENT with cell phone photo's at all. I've never seen such cellphone photo's before like this and I've seen hundreds of cell phone photo's since they first came out so I do not believe that such vibrant and bright chromatic tonalities are typical of cam phone photos at all -- quite the contrary; they are very,very atypical -- if in fact it's possible to get such vibrantly colored photo's from such cam's. So far, I haven't seen any, but if they are coming out with cam phones now that are capable of recording such images, I would love to find out about that and which phone cams they are.
And those hot centers shown in those photo's are not indicative in any way that the photo has been recorded by a cell phone as such results are also seen in photo's taken with regular digital cams of every make.
But I agree with you that cell phones lack those adjustment features that are on digital cams which allow the photographer to fine tune those controls to produce a better photo. Cell cams are very limited in this regard and because of the very limited adjustment controls on them, it makes no sense to pay more for a cam phone that's over 3mp's. In fact, because of those lack of controls on cam phones, there's really not too much of a noticeable difference between those photos' taken by such cams at 2mp and those taken by 3mp cam phones in most environments.
But the colors dont seem out of reach to me for a cell.
Once again, it's very important to evaluate the chromatic tonalities, their vibrancy and brightness in order to evaluate if the photo was in fact taken by a cam phone. In fact, I would go as far to say that such an analysis is absolutely crucial in determining if they were taken by such cams or not. The vast majority of those color tonalities of photo's taken with cam phones are overwhelmingly DRAB..., not to mention their low resolutions and high ocular distortion levels. And just as one analyzes the resolutions and ocular/artifact distortions of alleged cam phone photo's, an evaluation of those chromatic tonalities of such photos is just as important in determining if a photo has been taken with a cam phone or not.
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