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Originally posted by jsobecky
Oh, the feigned outrage by the Democrats!
What really happened was that the Democrats turned down a request by the Republicans to attach an amendment to have a similar debate on support for the war.
["Senate Republicans who earlier this week helped block deliberations on a resolution opposing President Bush's new troop deployments in Iraq changed course yesterday and vowed to use every tactic at their disposal to ensure a full and open debate.
In a letter distributed yesterday evening to Senate leaders, John W. Warner (Va.), Chuck Hagel (Neb.) and five other GOP supporters of the resolution threatened to attach their measure to any bill sent to the floor in the coming weeks. Noting that the war is the "most pressing issue of our time," the senators declared: "We will explore all of our options under the Senate procedures and practices to ensure a full and open debate."
The letter sent to Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was not more specific about the Republican senators' strategy for reviving the war debate. But under the chamber's rules, senators have wide latitude in slowing the progress of legislation and in offering amendments, regardless of whether they have anything to do with the bill.
The letter began circulating yesterday evening after it became apparent the Senate was deadlocked over the war resolution and Reid was prepared to move on to other matters. McConnell and many in his party have aggressively defended their decision to block the bipartisan resolution as an issue of fairness because Democrats would not agree to GOP procedural demands.
But some Republicans were uneasy about appearing to have stymied the debate. The letter appeared so suddenly that, although it was addressed to Reid, the Democratic leader had not seen his copy before Warner read the text on the Senate floor."]
Originally posted by jsobecky
The Dems did not want to include the Gregg Amendment, which would have assured that funding for the troops would not be cut off. Most R's want to give the Iraq effort six more months.
[edit on 7-2-2007 by jsobecky]
Originally posted by Vitchilo
So, same-sex marriage, abortions, stem-cell research, and every other issue should be decided if a party has a majority of +1, eh?
That's democracy my friend. If you don't like it, move abroad.
Same-sex marriage: For it.
Abortions: For it in certains circumstances.
Steam-cell research: For it.
That's democracy, so a few can't impose their views,
Now Bush is not being democratic, so do you like his regime? I bet you don't if you have at least a sense of reality. Majority against the Iraq war, continue and increase. Majority against Iran war, he's going in by end of february. Majority against police state laws, he go forwards... It's not a democracy anymore, it's tyranny.
Originally posted by grover
Six more months to bleed and die...what the hell for?
Originally posted by Vitchilo
That's democracy, so a few can't impose their views, if you destroy corruption like they do in China and illegalise lobbying aside from grassroots lobbying.
Now Bush is not being democratic, so do you like his regime? I bet you don't if you have at least a sense of reality. Majority against the Iraq war, continue and increase. Majority against Iran war, he's going in by end of february. Majority against police state laws, he go forwards... It's not a democracy anymore, it's tyranny.
Originally posted by LogansRun
Originally posted by jsobecky
Oh, the feigned outrage by the Democrats!
What really happened was that the Democrats turned down a request by the Republicans to attach an amendment to have a similar debate on support for the war.
The difference is, the majority of Americans are opposed to this war and Republicans cant seem to get that through their thick heads. The Democrats are working for the will of the people - the republicans are going against it. Didn't they learn anything in the last election??!!??
Originally posted by jsobecky
They vote by which way the wind is blowing right now.
Originally posted by enomus
Originally posted by jsobecky
They vote by which way the wind is blowing right now.
as opposed to the republicans...who have been wrong over and over again...but hey, at least they've been consistently wrong, ehhh?
making a mistake is human (invading iraq under false pretenses) but you should be man enough to not only admit the mistake, but also to fix the mistake. sadly, your precious republicans have done neither.
there's nothing honorable about sticking to a position, especially when it's the wrong one.
Originally posted by grover
Nonsense... they are already on record that cutting off funding for this stupid war isn't even on the table, though it should be.
Political sluts should never complain about political whores.
[edit on 9-2-2007 by grover]