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reply posted on 6-2-2007 @ 11:05 AM by Kolmo
Firstly to everyone who says "we gave em a frashing of er life".. if it had not been for the Americans and Chile, the islands would currently be Argentine.


Argentina to keep most of its elite troops on the mainland, distant from the Falklands theatre. In addition, Argentine military planners had trusted that the United States would remain neutral in the conflict, but, following unsuccessful mediation attempts, the United States offered full support to Great Britain, allowing its NATO ally to use its air-to-air missiles, communications equipment, aviation fuel, and other military stockpiles on British-held Ascension Island, as well as cooperating with military intelligence.


Not to mention it's neighbore country Chile giving full support to the British army as well as providing airfields for their planes.

Secondly, Im sure most of you have no idea were the islands are even located.. they are right next to Argentina, and around half the world away from Britain.

The islands were first captured by France, and then given to Spain who handed them over to Argentina, thats a fact! Britain illegally stole them, and the United Nations doesn't care.

The "Falkland citizens" are in fact 3/4 of the army and the rest are probably their families who were placed there around 1983 after the war.

I find it funny that Britain mentions that aslong as the Falkland citizens wish to remain British there will be no negotiations.. those people were placed there after the war WTF! doesn't make sense

If I was Nestor now, I would retake the islands.. (we have support from all S.America) no need for the British to be so arrogant.. specially when they hardly won a war were Argentina was under dictatorship and were the war was only a distraction from it's internal problems.

One last thing, Paki/Blackie/Argie is diminutive and is racist so dont say it.


reply posted on 6-2-2007 @ 12:43 PM by carslake
Originally posted by Kolmo

The "Falkland citizens" are in fact 3/4 of the army and the rest are probably their families who were placed there around 1983 after the war.

I find it funny that Britain mentions that aslong as the Falkland citizens wish to remain British there will be no negotiations.. those people were placed there after the war WTF! doesn't make sense


You don't really know what your saying do you Kolma. Find out the truth Kolma and maybe you wouldn't be dismissed by people who know better.



If I was Nestor now, I would retake the islands.. (we have support from all S.America) no need for the British to be so arrogant.. specially when they hardly won a war were Argentina was under dictatorship and were the war was only a distraction from it's internal problems.

One last thing, Paki/Blackie/Argie is diminutive and is racist so dont say it.


Yeah some of us are arrogant but ther in the minority and anyway they have to put up with baseless opinion like yours so I can understand there contempt.

Who mentioned the word Paki. And the term Blackie in my opinion originates among english speaking Afrikaners. So what are you doing here generalising about a nation in an attempt to slur them. Yeah we do call Argentinians argies so what!

And if you were Nestor you'd be attempting to sort out the economic mess your country is in, or maybe a bit of truth and reconciliation for the victims of a dictatorship.

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[edit on 6-2-2007 by carslake]


reply posted on 6-2-2007 @ 10:39 PM by stumason
Originally posted by Kolmo
Firstly to everyone who says "we gave em a frashing of er life".. if it had not been for the Americans and Chile, the islands would currently be Argentine.


Thats BS. We had help, yes, but you also had some very good units on the Islands yet we still kicked your arse. Your AF was a joke and lost 30 odd planes to 0.

Originally posted by Kolmo
Not to mention it's neighbore country Chile giving full support to the British army as well as providing airfields for their planes.

Secondly, Im sure most of you have no idea were the islands are even located.. they are right next to Argentina, and around half the world away from Britain.


I know exactly where they are, thankyou. If you like, I can draw a map of the world from memory. Who gives a monkey's where they are, anyway? That has no bearing on who controls them.

Originally posted by Kolmo
The islands were first captured by France, and then given to Spain who handed them over to Argentina, thats a fact! Britain illegally stole them, and the United Nations doesn't care.


Thats utter BS. Would you like the actual course of events?


The first European explorer widely credited with sighting the islands is Sebald de Weert, a Dutch sailor, in 1600. Although several English and Spanish historians maintain their own explorers discovered the islands earlier, some older maps, particularly Dutch ones, used the name "Sebald Islands", after de Weert. However, the islands appear on numerous Spanish and other maps beginning in the 1520s[citation needed].

In January 1690, English sailor John Strong, captain of the Welfare, was heading for Puerto Deseado (in Argentina), but driven off course by contrary winds, he reached the Sebald Islands instead and landed at Bold Cove. He sailed between the two principal islands and called the passage "Falkland Channel" (now Falkland Sound), after Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount Falkland (1659-1694), who as Commissioner of the Admiralty had financed the expedition and who later became First Lord of the Admiralty. From this body of water the island group later took its collective English name.

The first settlement on the Falkland Islands, called Port Saint Louis, was founded by the French navigator and military commander Louis Antoine de Bougainville in 1764 on Berkeley Sound, in present-day Port Louis, East Falkland.

Unaware of the French presence, in January 1765, English captain John Byron explored and claimed Saunders Island, at the western end of the group, where he named the harbour of Port Egmont, and sailed near other islands, which he also claimed for King George III of Great Britain. A British settlement was built at Port Egmont in 1766. Also in 1766, Spain acquired the French colony, and after assuming effective control in 1767, placed the islands under a governor subordinate to Buenos Aires. Spain attacked Port Egmont, ending the British presence there in 1770, but Britain returned in 1771 and remained until 1774. Upon her withdrawal in 1774 Britain left behind a plaque asserting her claims, and in 1790, Britain officially ceded control of the islands to Spain, and renounced any and all colonial ambitions in South America, and its adjacent islands, as part of the Nootka Convention. In addition, the Nootka Convention provided for equal British, Spanish, and US rights to fish the surrounding waters of, as well as land on and erect temporary buildings to aid in such fishing operations, in any territory south of parts already occupied by Spain - the Falkland Islands being one of them since 1770 [2]. From then on Spain ruled the islands unchallenged under the name "Islas Malvinas", maintaining a settlement ruled from Buenos Aires under the control of the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata until 1811. On leaving in 1811, Spain, too, left behind a plaque asserting her claims.


So, as you can see, it was first French, then there was also a British colony.

Then the Spaniards took control of the French colony and attacked the British colony.

We left a plaque asserting our claims. A treaty was signed, ceeding it too the Spanish, but the Spanish lost control due to Argentina's independence.

The Americans then attacked and destroyed the Argentine colony, leaving the islands inhabited by Pirates and criminals.

We decided, for various reasons, to re-assert our claim and took control.

So, your claims of it was spanish first are a bare faced lie and distortion of the facts.

Originally posted by Kolmo
The "Falkland citizens" are in fact 3/4 of the army and the rest are probably their families who were placed there around 1983 after the war.


More BS. There has been a sizeable population on the islands for a bloody long time. No one was "placed" there, barring the small Military contingent, which are cycled in and out.

Originally posted by Kolmo
I find it funny that Britain mentions that aslong as the Falkland citizens wish to remain British there will be no negotiations.. those people were placed there after the war WTF! doesn't make sense


That's because your lying.

Originally posted by Kolmo
If I was Nestor now, I would retake the islands.. (we have support from all S.America) no need for the British to be so arrogant.. specially when they hardly won a war were Argentina was under dictatorship and were the war was only a distraction from it's internal problems.


Try it. I dare you, just try it. You think you have problems now? I reckon the Yanks owe us a favour or two this time round, but even without them, we would kick your sorry military back to the mainland. Don't believe the BS about us only having less than 30 active warships.

Originally posted by Kolmo
One last thing, Paki/Blackie/Argie is diminutive and is racist so dont say it.


I didn't realise Argentinians were a race. So how can "Argie" be a racist term? You call us Brits, don't you? Then I will call you a damn Argie if I like. Nothing is meant by it, it's just easier to say.

Also, I find it funny how Kolmo is claiming they were there fist so it's theres, even though that is a lie. What about the indigineous population you wiped out, sugjegated and still force to live in abject poverty? No mention there....
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