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Iranian nuclear scientist ‘assassinated by Mossad’

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posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 02:18 PM
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found this article thought it was very interesting looks like the mossad is working on taking out some scientist. just a matter of time before all this back and forth stuff with iran explodes

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posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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I wonder if this assasination attempt might just be the beginning of a much larger event as was the assassination of the Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand that led to the start of WW1. It will be very interesting to see how Iran handles this news.

Is this a show of force to illustrate to Russia that Pro-Western spy agencies can still get away with high value assassination targets too, i.e.. Litvinyenko's assasination, I think yes.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 02:43 PM
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When Nassar was trying to get the bomb for Egypt, this was the technique that Israel used, and Egypt eventually gave up that aspiration.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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We should support this, its better to do it this way to deny Iran's ambition for a nuclear weapon than it is to go bomb a nation ain't it?



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 03:08 PM
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Israel has long used criminal assassination as a political tool. They feel that they are above the law and have even assassinated their own people as well as US citizens.

While I agree that Iran developing nuclear capabilities is troublesome, murder to achieve a political goal is reprehensible. Iran will achieve it's nuclear goals despite this murder. One must remember that Israel acquired nuclear bomb technology by stealing it. For a society that claims they are the only chosen people of God, they sure act like the devils children.

It is time the US stopped all financial support of Israel.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 03:23 PM
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This scientist's mysterious death was originally posted by SIRR1 in this thread Iran's Top Nuclear Scientist Dies

Debate there suspected Mossad as well and I linked the only other info I could find on that thread (posted on 1/26/07 at 01:58 PM ), one with another theory that Hassanpour could have been targetted by Iran itself.

The details are sketchy, but this story smells of some sort of coverup, the story has not seen the light of day in my daily news viewing here in the US.

Looks like another mystery for our community (ATS) to keep an eye on....



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 03:27 PM
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Each time I see someone ask for the USA to stop financially helping Israel, I wonder if it would be of any use against Israel

I mean, Even if you cut Help to Israel, I think they are strong enough to stand on their own

They got the weapons, they got the army, they got one of the most industrialised spot in the middle east

Even without US stipend, I can't see Another Arab Coalition trying to depose the Israeli Regime

My opinion is that they would get their ass handed over



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 04:13 PM
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Lets not go rushing to give Israel that much credit just yet. It would be pretty ballsie for them to be able to infiltrate Iran without a hassle. Osirak mission was one thing, gaining entry into France was probably simple for them. They would have to come in through Turkey,Iraq or Kurdish Iraq , which might be an explanation. In the past few weeks the IAEA has said the Iranians have been seen on video monitor to be hurriedly preparing to get the facilities in operation and more then likely in the rush there was an error that occurred and this man accidently irradiated himself. If you see more key scientists dieing off maybe then you can say there is something going on. Right now its more like Israeli propaganda to try and put fear into the Iranians and to make the world believe they can reach anywhere they please.

If the Mossad was so damn good then where are their 3 missing soldiers?
False flag ops are one thing this is something else.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Terapin
Israel has long used criminal assassination as a political tool. They feel that they are above the law and have even assassinated their own people as well as US citizens.

While I agree that Iran developing nuclear capabilities is troublesome, murder to achieve a political goal is reprehensible. Iran will achieve it's nuclear goals despite this murder. One must remember that Israel acquired nuclear bomb technology by stealing it. For a society that claims they are the only chosen people of God, they sure act like the devils children.

It is time the US stopped all financial support of Israel.


Assassination prevented Egypt from getting the bomb, so why couldn't it work here too. If the scientists are afraid to work on nuclear projects, then that's as effective as bombing facilities later on, in preventing Iran from going nuclear. Iran having the bomb bothers me more than Israel stopping their efforts through whatever means.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by GT100FV
Iran having the bomb bothers me more than Israel stopping their efforts through whatever means.


touch'e



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 04:41 AM
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In 1980, when the [Iraqi] reactor equipment was about to be shipped from a French Mediterranean port, the Mossad planted explosives, but they failed to destroy the reactor.

In June of that year, Mossad agents tried to entice, with money and sex, an Egyptian nuclear scientist based in France and involved with the Osirak reactor, to work for them. He refused. One quiet evening, while he was billeted at the Hotel Meridien in Paris, he heard a knock at his door. When he opened it, some men barged into his room and slit his throat.

A prostitute who happened to be in the hallway when this occurred was later run over by a black Mercedes-Benz and died before she could tell the police what she had witnessed in the hotel.


We're going down the same path again, however, the scale will be much bigger this time.

[edit on 5-2-2007 by Mdv2]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by CanadianGlasnost
Each time I see someone ask for the USA to stop financially helping Israel, I wonder if it would be of any use against Israel

I mean, Even if you cut Help to Israel, I think they are strong enough to stand on their own

They got the weapons, they got the army, they got one of the most industrialised spot in the middle east

Even without US stipend, I can't see Another Arab Coalition trying to depose the Israeli Regime

My opinion is that they would get their ass handed over


Actualy, if you track Israels financial status since their conception, you'll see that their yearly growth and BNP are nearly equal to yearly funding from the US Goverment and total sum the US has given to Israel.

And thats only counting the financial aid the US gave Israel. The military and other types of aid aren't even counted in that, and they net in at even more then the financial aid.

Israel gets everything for free and then some.

Thats why I found it so disgusting that the EU and US announced THEY were going to pay for the rebuilding and reconstruction in Lebanon to fix the damage Israel did there.

Instead of condemning what Israel does and afterwards cleaning up their mess, tell them to get bent and force them to pay for the damage they caused.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
We should support this, its better to do it this way to deny Iran's ambition for a nuclear weapon than it is to go bomb a nation ain't it?

So that You know, right now you are supporting acts of Terorism.

Israeli Terrorism = Good, right?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 07:29 AM
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Well, if it is a proven murder/assassination, I would place Mossad as a prime suspect. I've read Mossad has specialised unit named 'Kidon' (bayonet), trained for assassinations and kidnappings, and things like it. And it is quite obvious that it is vital interest of Israel to stop Iranian nuclear program, and elimination of a top scientist is ruthless, but efficient step towards that direction.

And I almost forget something important to mention. Does Gerald Bull case sound familiar?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah

Originally posted by deltaboy
We should support this, its better to do it this way to deny Iran's ambition for a nuclear weapon than it is to go bomb a nation ain't it?

So that You know, right now you are supporting acts of Terorism.

Israeli Terrorism = Good, right?


Not exactly- terrorism involves indiscriminate civilian targets attacked by other civilians. Nuclear scientists working on weapons are in a different status than John Smith at the pizza parlor, and members of a government agency are in a different status than some ideologue freelancer. Think of it more like CIA vs KGB during the Cold War.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:32 AM
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Souljah, sweep the leg, of course, a nuclear scientist isn't the same as a 6 month year old infant, or a mother of three. If you can't decifer between these people you have the same rational as a terrorist, so congrats!

I don't care what the classification for a nuclear scientist is but regardless they are an instrument of the military on some level and should be treated as such. Especially a high up nuclear scientist during a time when Iran seems to be very interested in going full speed a. on all nuclear fronts.

I'd prefer the West target the teachers of Anti-western propaganda(i.e.. religious leaders and politicians) at the same time they are targetting the nuclear scientists, how do you feel about that idea Souljah?

This would send a clear message to Iran that the West is unafraid and unwilling to take their crap!

[edit on 5-2-2007 by Low Orbit]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:45 AM
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I wouldn't lose any sleep if radical hate mongers stirring up new generations of lunatics were targeted along with the scientists. If you're poisoning the minds of entire generations, and inciting them to kill innocents, then you need to be removed from the gene pool.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Right now ts more like Israeli propaganda to try and put fear into the Iranians and to make the world believe they can reach anywhere they please.

False flag ops are one thing this is something else.



I agree with part of your assessment, that maybe this scientist died in an accident. But, I think it would be most likely the iranians using this as just another opportunity to whip up anti-Israeli sentiment by trying to blame Mossad.

Nice try by the iranians and all their helpers, though ...


[edit on 2/5/2007 by centurion1211]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by BlueRaja
Not exactly- terrorism involves indiscriminate civilian targets attacked by other civilians. Nuclear scientists working on weapons are in a different status than John Smith at the pizza parlor, and members of a government agency are in a different status than some ideologue freelancer. Think of it more like CIA vs KGB during the Cold War.

Now, we do not know that Iran is developing nuclear weapons - this is the overall western perspective of Iran and their nuclear program, boosted of
course by Israel and their propaganda officers embedded in Washington. Actually we have no clue what is going on in Iran. This scientist could be working on a weapons program, but then again he could be not.

And let us inspect the definition of Terrorism:


Wikipedia

The United States has defined terrorism under the Federal Criminal Code. Chapter 113B of Part I of Title 18 of the United States Code defines terrorism and lists the crimes associated with terrorism[9]. In Section 2331 of Chapter 113b, terrorism is defined as:

…activities that involve violent… or life-threatening acts… that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and… appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and… (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States… [or]… (C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States…"

Which makes this act of assassination an act of terrorism according to USA FCC and basicly by all international definitions of terrorism. Problem is, that most of the people do not view Iran as yet another state in this world, but as a Rouge country and of course the completly innocent Israel is never viewed as a terrorist state, even if they do use the same tactics as defined in the criminals code books. I wonder what the response would be, if an Israeli nuclear scientist would be killed in suspecious circumstances like here, and everybody would start to point fingers at Iran. Feel funny when the shoe is on the other leg, doesn't it?

And yet everybody forgot that Isreali nuclera program was also ILLEGAL according to international rules - even if they were supplied vital technology from all sides, from France to USA - and that they have NEVER signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty and never the UN inspectors entered Dimona reactor in Israel:


Israel's nuclear programme

While Israel has never admitted to having nuclear weapons, few international experts question the Jewish state's presence on the world's list of nuclear powers.

Its nuclear capability is arguably the most secretive weapons of mass destruction programme in the world.

Unlike Iran and North Korea - two countries whose alleged nuclear ambitions have recently come to the fore - Israel has never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, designed to prevent the global spread of nuclear weapons.

As a result, it is not subject to inspections and the threat of sanctions by the United Nations nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianGlasnost
Each time I see someone ask for the USA to stop financially helping Israel, I wonder if it would be of any use against Israel

I mean, Even if you cut Help to Israel, I think they are strong enough to stand on their own

They got the weapons, they got the army, they got one of the most industrialised spot in the middle east

Even without US stipend, I can't see Another Arab Coalition trying to depose the Israeli Regime

My opinion is that they would get their ass handed over


I'm curious as to why you wrote "depose" and "israeli regime" - the two suggest dictatorship - and Israel is a democracy......
not a criticism, I merely ask for info purposes....



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