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Originally posted by mbkennel
It would probably be difficult or impossible to find a true "Aramaic Jew" of the time ethnically today.
Originally posted by pavil
Yes, but not all Semites are Arab.
The Koran's knowledge of Jesus's life is second hand at best coming from Christian sources in the first place.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
I didn't say "all Semites are Arab." I said Arabs are Semites too.
I didn't realize Muhammad was Christian. Thanks for that input.
Originally posted by Byrd
They have very restrictive marriage laws, so they are less "mongrel" than the rest of us.
Originally posted by pavil
Just making the point that Muhammad's knowledge of Jesus is many centuries removed from the actual events and second hand and that's being generous.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Originally posted by pavil
Just making the point that Muhammad's knowledge of Jesus is many centuries removed from the actual events and second hand and that's being generous.
He was a prophet, his teachings had been directly from God. When he saw Jesus and Moses, it was from his own ascension into heaven, not what someone had told him.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
the hebrews back then looked nothing like the hebrews of today
ancient hebrews looked different, actually, the looked like THIS
Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
Although I don't normally ridicule for beliefs....come on man. This thread is about how some people are sick of the 'Jesus was white' trip, and want to know why he isn't portrayed in art as he should ethnically (semetic).
It's not about halluacintions from dellusional war mongerers in caves (Muhammad).
Originally posted by wellwhatnow
I think his appearance is completely relevant.
Consider a few hypothetical examples:
If Jesus had been black and had always been pictured that way, do you think that African-Americans would have suffered so much violence and segregation in the US? Would there have had to be a civil rights movement at all?
If Jesus had been Arabic and had always been pictured that way, do you think we would handle Iraq the same way we are now? Would we have tortured the detainees at Guantanamo?
Jesus' message was indeed important, but a stained-glass picture could be worth a thousand messages.
Originally posted by omega1
If people actually listened to his message you think there would be slavery in the U.S. or a war in Iraq?
I think not.
Originally posted by omega1
If people actually listened to his message you think there would be slavery in the U.S. or a war in Iraq?
I think not.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
i disagree
if you read the rest of the bible (the parts that aren't directly quoted from jesus) the book endoreses slavery and war
hell, it endorses divinly inspired genocide
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Indeed, which is why I gave Islam's take on his depiction.
A failed attempt at trolling, I see. Do some research and you will see that he only defended himself in wars, never being the offender. The purpose of this site is to deny ignorance, not perpetuate it with hate.
Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
Unless Muhammad had a time machine, I'm pretty sure he never saw any of the other prophets.
Whether he instigated them or not, he was still dellusional.
Originally posted by Kidtamer
Hello. I am new here but have been reading this thread and find it very interesting. I hope I can join in.
Satan, the deciever, would like us to believe all sorts of things. One, that Jesus was white, pitifully pale in fact, had long scraggly hair and was a weak man.
Of course, we know better because of where he was born as well as the tradition of the times.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Look up the Mi’raj from Masjid al-Aqsa. It details his ascension to heaven and him meeting Jesus and describing his features.
Right, just as is said about every prophet. Rather than posting your opinion as fact, show some proof of him being delusional and explain how he performed miracles.
Originally posted by Kidtamer
Satan, the deciever, would like us to believe all sorts of things. One, that Jesus was white, pitifully pale in fact, had long scraggly hair and was a weak man.
Of course, we know better because of where he was born as well as the tradition of the times. First, he was a carpenter.
How many weak and pale capenters do you know? They are tan, buff and anything but weak. I suspect Jesus was the same.
Further, the tradition of the time was that long hair was for women! Jewish teachers (rabbis) had short hair with long curls for "sideburns." It is possible that Jesus had these curls. He was a teacher as he was called over and over again throughout the New Testament. Probably later on he just had short hair. But, Satan would like us to think of Jesus as a weakling and that is why we see Him depicted as such.
Another deception is how Satan himself would look. Do we really think that he is ugly, monstrous...having a pitchfork and tail? Hardly! Who would follow something that looked like that. Satan/Lucifer was an angel of God who got a bit too big for his britches, so to speak. As an angel he was beautiful. Satan and, I believe, the Antichrist was, is, will be....beautiful. He will be tempting, good looking, intelligent....all the things that we would admire in a leader. That is how he is able to decieve us all. Think about it. Those things in life that are "bad" for us that we do anyway...they aren't ugly or distasteful (usually). They are tasty, give us a pleasant feeling, etc. Only after we experience these things do we realize their true nature. The same goes for Satan, I think.
Remember that Jesus was of the House of David. This is interesting because Mary was NOT of that line. Joseph was! Mary was an Essene.