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Originally posted by iammonkey
Its time like these i wish i had a time travel machine. I would invite truth4hire and the rest of” there was no gas chambers cult” to take a trip back to ww2 drop in on Auschwitz’s and ask Hitler if they could take a nice long shower.
Originally posted by Edn
Different points of view are vitally important if the truth of any particular event is to be found true.
One thing I find particularly saddening is how the holocaust only portrays the Jews.
What about the gays? the Russian prisoner's? disabled? political opponents? Roma and Sinti people? Jehovah witnesses? ethnic Poles?
Originally posted by Truth4hire
And again emotions come into play...
If anyone is wondering why I am no longer posting about the holocaust, well there is no point.
Remember this though:
* It is now illegal to challenge the contemporary Holocaust version WHY?
* People DID visit camps and DID raise doubts... and were AXED for it. WHY?
* Nobody seems to even want to look at the arguments brought forth by actual scolars who researched the subject if their findings conflict with the accepted story WHY?
Don´t be fooled.
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
...People DO NOT face legal ramifications for questioning history. They DO face legal action if they circulate inflamatory racist material. To claim otherwise is to be a fool and fail to examine ALL the available evidence and to have an emotional reaction based on limited perceptions. ...
Originally posted by Grailkeeper
What makes me wonder is, who actually started the speculation of the Holocaust never happening?
As an organized movement, Holocaust denial began in 1979 with the founding of a group called the Institute for Historical Review (IHR). The IHR publishes a magazine (the Journal of Historical Review), holds conferences, and distributes a variety of anti-Jewish books - all devoted to the idea that Hitler's record of atrocities is a fraud concocted by a powerful, secret conspiracy of Jews. Among those connected to the IHR is Bradley Smith, the man responsible for most of the Holocaust denial advertisements in college newspapers.
After World War II, former Nazis and their supporters similarly claimed that Hitler's hatred of the Jews had been misinterpreted, and that the numerous confessions of Nazi leaders describing the genocide had been coerced by the Allies. This neo-Nazi movement also dismissed the testimony of survivors from the concentration camps as exaggeration and lies. Other political extremists in the 1960s and 1970s, such as radical anti-Israel groups or fringe conspiracy theorists, echoed the views of these right-wing anti-Semites.
Originally posted by sky1
Originally posted by Truth4hire
My opinion as I mentioned earlier is that I do not think Auschwitz was a death camp and that most victims died of malnutrition and disease at the latter stages of the war due to insuficcient supplies reaching the concentration camps which, in turn was caused by a breakdown of the German railway infrastructure caused by Allied bombings.
No one ever talks about the concentration camps all over the world, including the US, that housed German soldiers. No one ever talks about AMERICANS of German heritage that were abused and terrorized (or the fear of that occurring) causing these AMERICANS to change their names and deny their heritage.
Most people think that the figure "six million" emerged during World War II, when it was claimed that Germany killed that many Jews in the "Holocaust."* But the magic six-million figure dates back to 1900. Here a distinguished educator and historical investigator from Australia shows how this number first appeared in its current mystical configura- tion, as he presents sequentially items gleaned from articles published in The New York Times between 1900 and 1920.
May 7, 1920: "Jewish war sufferers in Central and Eastern Europe,
where six million face horrifying conditions of famine, disease
May 5, 1920: "[T]o save six million men and women in Eastern
Europe from extermination by hunger and disease."
May 5, 1920: "Six million starving, fever-stricken sufferers in
war-torn Europe appeal to us.
May 3, 1920: "Your help is needed to save the lives of six million
people in Eastern and Central Europe.
May 2, 1920: " . . . Six million human beings, without food, shelter,
clothing or medical treatment."
May 1, 1920: "But the lives of six million human beings are waiting
for an answer."
Nov. 12, 1919: " . . . tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation
and disease about six million souls, or half the Jewish population of
the Earth . . . a million children and five million parents and elders."
Sept. 29, 1919: " . . . tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and
disease . . . about six million souls, or half the Jewish population
of the Earth."