Originally posted by Akareyon
Well, it's a film, it can't communicate its points, evidences and truths if you don't watch it
If its points can' tbe communicated, then its points are merely emotive devices, not actual consideration of the evidence or a presentation of a
historical study. IOW, merely baseless propaganda.
The point it's trying to make in the first few minutes I've watched so far is that a few testimonies from the "Operation Reinhard" camps
can be debunked the very same way we use to prove our point or debunk hoaxers sometimes: compare documents easily available to everyone to each other,
use some common logic, quote out of context if necessary and leave everything aside that doesn't support the point you're trying to make.
But its one thing to say
that various accounts conflict with the documents, its another to actually show that they do conflict, and quite
another to then say that the holocaust didn't happen. At best, all you have before that is some accounts that aren't accurate, and, again, thats
even just assuming that they were actually shown to be inaccurate.
No matter how suspicious the overall theme of the movie may be, it seems to be thoroughly researched.
That unfortunately is a tactic of the propagandist revisionist, make it appear that something has been researched. Its similar to whats called
pseudo-science, you use scientific sounding terms and jargon, or just make it appear like you've conducted rigorous tests, or talk about fancy
equipment, when in reality there was no actual science done. WIth nazi Historical revisionism, its giving the perception that the propagandist has
done the work of an actual historian, in much the same way, when in fact all they are doing is promoting hateful propaganda with an agenda.
can you use a Diesel engine to gas someone?
I know that there are accounts of people being gassed with disel engines. Lets pretend that, no, you can't kill someone with exhaust from a disel
engine. How does that refute the existence of gas chambers, and the starvation programme?
Did you ever sleep on a matress made of human hair?
Again, what does it matter?
Can a human body burn by itself without fuel like wood, for example, and if so, why would a female body burn better than a male
Same question, why does this matter? Is it likely that some people's observations at the time were inaccurate? Yes, assuredly, not everyon that was
there is going to give a completely accurate account. But what does it matter if some people's stories end up being inaccurate?
And notice, an actual historian, or anyone wanting to get to the truth, would take note if these things didn't happen, but recognize that they're
not refuting the central idea. They are nothign other than propaganda devices, to disctract you from the actual evidence.
and that it doesn't help to know that it were "just" 4 million or 5.1 million Jews isntead of 6 million.
I think 4 million is an extremely unlikely and low estimate.
pquote]Still it might be interesting to have an in-depth analysis (no matter how biased it is) to see whether history has been tampered with and make
up your own mind instead of relying on or dismissing those hunches that "something can't be right with the numbers".
The thing is, lots of historians have investigated the holocaust, sifted through the evidence, the records, the communications, the trials, the sites.
THe propagadistic revisionist will often act as if the question had been suppressed, or that this is a new field, or something like that. Like pretty
much everything else they say, its all a lie. They've certainly learned from their nazi masters, make the lie big, the bigger, the more likely that
people will beleive it.