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'UFO' seen in HUD of Australian fighter!

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posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:12 PM
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This is a 5 sec vid from Australia. Not many details here, so it makes it a little suspicious. But something seems to have just zoomed into view in the HUD of an Australian fighter aircraft from the left, stopped dead in its tracks and zoomed off again after a perfect 90!

Now why would a UFO have 'afterburners'? But it IS some object, unidentified. and it's flying. In other words a UFO!!

If not a UFO, then this blighter must've pulled at least a 100 Gs with that turn!! And needless to say, impossible without some form of anti grav technology.

So what do we have here?

1. A UFO.
2. The Australian Air Force testing some esoteric technology.
3. Camera glitch.
4. None of the above. Then what the devil is it?



Google Video Link


[edit on 1-2-2007 by mikesingh]




posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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Well that doesn't look fake at all..!



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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Wow, cool video, but where did you find it?
No extra info apart from google?
Seems like a very quick deceleration and turn, which couldn't be an aircraft
Edit...sorry i found it......

[edit on 1-2-2007 by Denied]



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:16 PM
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It's very poor quality and could easily be faked, but i have to admit, thats some very interesting manouvering there.

I cant tell if it's just the poor quality and the perspective or if it's actually suddenly stopping and changing direction mid flight.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:19 PM
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Looks very fake.

Have seen various tutorials on After FX to let you do whats termed motion tracking on footage like that, and the glow on the afterburners looks wrong with the perspective at distance, in that it dosen't really change size.

Id suspect it was created in after fx.

Also the crew don't seem to react (audio wise) to what would be a very unusual craft.

Just dosen't look right, but then again its too low res to conclude anything.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:19 PM
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double post oops

[edit on 1-2-2007 by 2ciewan]



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by SpaceCalamari
It's very poor quality and could easily be faked


isn't it in infra red?
Does anyone know?



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:20 PM
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Even if this is proven to be fake at some point I would like to say this is the way that the ships do maneuver.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 01:45 PM
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You don't find it at all convenient that a UFO would just happen to make a right angle turn exactly where the aircraft's FLIR was pointed?

But aside from that, what are the 5 W's?
Who took the image?
What is it really?
Where exactly did this happen?
When?
How did it happen?

Any other information at all on this thing? I think it's probably fake, but even if it wasn't, without the above information, it's still basically another worthless bit of nothing. Mildly entertaining at best, annoying at most.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 02:30 PM
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As I've posted previously, this video is a known hoax.

Here are some details from my database of infamous UFO videos:

This video was revealed some months ago as being created by Chris Kenworthy, as part of the Australian UFO wave "immersive artwork" project funded by the Australian Film Commission.

The revelation of the hoax of the numerous videos that formed part of that "immersive artwork" project generated quite a bit of discussion on ATS and various other websites at the time - but it seems to have been forgotten. The videos are still popping up on various UFO websites and forums without any reference to the "immersive artwork" project.

Details of the relevant "immersive artwork" project are given on the website at the link below:
australianufowave.com...

When this particular video was originally released by Chris Kenworthy, it was accompanied by a fictional story which claimed that it had been filmed on 13 July 2006. The relevant blurb stated: "The witness who sent this tape did so on condition that he not be interviewed or contacted, or even questioned regarding the footage. For obvious reasons I do not have the original camera tape. Thousands of people have written to point out that there is a date stamp in the bottom right-hand corner: July 13th 2006. Many people have written suggesting possible locations, with the most likely being off the coast of Kwinana in Western Australia, although this is unconfirmed. There is strong speculation from many sources that this was shot with a FLIR Star Safire camera (or something similar), from a helicopter. Investigation is ongoing."

Chris Kenworth subsequently revealed the true story about this video on his website: "I had some spare helicopter footage (from a previous project), and thought it would make for an interesting shot. I modelled this on the famous Mexican footage, expecting that the numerous clues that were left in the clip would expose the nature of our project. To my amazement, hits at the site went through the roof, and this proved to be the most popular clip so far. Lots of people identified the location and date, and even the type of infrared camera this was 'shot' with - but nobody noticed that this isn't actually an infrared image (only an inverted one), or that the camera readouts are inaccurate. After a few weeks, some people noticed that the UFO is animated independently of the background."

See:
www.australianufowave.com...

The relevant artist/hoaxer gave an interview to The Daily Grail, which is at the link below:
www.dailygrail.com...

Chris Kenworthy also gave an interview to the UFO Watchdog:
www.ufowatchdog.com...

Both interviews were interesting, and made numerous points which have not really been discussed on ATS (or elsewhere) despite their relevance to many of the discussions of the videos and photos that appear on UFO forums.

For example, in the former interview Chris Kenworth commented as follows:

“One of the points I wanted to make is that there are lots of ways to spot fakes, and that people should have seen them. Although people spotted the clues at the end, nobody wrote to tell me they'd seen the clues or mistakes that run throughout the earlier clips. People need to be more vigilant. Secondly, I wanted to underline that a clip should not be trusted (or shared on websites), until a reputable researcher has spoken to witnesses and had the original tape analysed. A couple of researchers did ask for more info and witness contact, but when we stalled they posted the clips on their sites anyway. Faking short clips is one thing, but faking an entire event (with actors acting as witnesses after the fact, and a full camera tape) - that would cost ten times our budget, just for one clip. So if researchers do their job properly, faking clips would be impossible for all but the highest budgets.”

He also referred to previous articles on the subject of hoaxing UFO videos, which discussed how these can be done. I haven't seen anyone here (or on other UFO forums) refer to any of that material.

I find it a bit disappointing that when some hoaxers finally reveals their methods, the ufological community has been rather slow to examine those methods and see how their use can be detected in other videos in the future.

Kind Regards,

Isaac

[edit on 1-2-2007 by IsaacKoi]



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 02:44 PM
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Voted you "Way Above" for that post IsaacKoi.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 02:50 PM
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One way or the other as I stated but it does give people who never saw a UFO the opportunity to see the way that the ships do maneuver.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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IsaacKoi, WOW, good job man!

This is really unfortunate, it really shows why video footage of UFOs are pretty much useless today. The guy that made these videos has basically done a great deal of work to discredit the entire UFO community. Its stunts like these that give the rest of the world reason, and darned good reason, to not beleive UFO reports.





Originally posted by observe50
One way or the other as I stated but it does give people who never saw a UFO the opportunity to see the way that the ships do maneuver.

Huh?
Its a fake. It doesn't show you how 'the ships maneuvor', it shows you noting other than a cartoon.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by SuicideVirus
You don't find it at all convenient that a UFO would just happen to make a right angle turn exactly where the aircraft's FLIR was pointed?

But aside from that, what are the 5 W's?
Who took the image?
What is it really?
Where exactly did this happen?
When?
How did it happen?

Any other information at all on this thing? I think it's probably fake, but even if it wasn't, without the above information, it's still basically another worthless bit of nothing. Mildly entertaining at best, annoying at most.


One of your five W's is an H.
I also agree that it shows how the real ships maneuver.

[edit on 2-1-2007 by groingrinder]



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 03:08 PM
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Thats to bad, I really want to believe that kind of flight technology is possible.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
it IS some object, unidentified. and it's flying. In other words a UFO!!



Hi Mike,

No, it's an image on a video _appearing_ to show an object. All you can see on the screen is a collection of pixels - not an "object".


Originally posted by mikesingh
So what do we have here?

1. A UFO.
2. The Australian Air Force testing some esoteric technology.
3. Camera glitch.
4. None of the above. Then what the devil is it?


When considering a "UFO" video that appears show something that cannot be explained in terms of known phenomena, I'd recommend including "hoax" as one of the main options to consider.

Once you have this possibility in mind, you can look for the tell-tale signs of a hoax.

The artist/hoaxer behind this video left numerous clues that is not genuine.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi

Hi Mike,


Originally posted by mikesingh
So what do we have here?

1. A UFO.
2. The Australian Air Force testing some esoteric technology.
3. Camera glitch.
4. None of the above. Then what the devil is it?


When considering a "UFO" video that appears show something that cannot be explained in terms of known phenomena, I'd recommend including "hoax" as one of the main options to consider.

Once you have this possibility in mind, you can look for the tell-tale signs of a hoax.

The artist/hoaxer behind this video left numerous clues that is not genuine.


Hi Isaac!

Haven't seen you around of late!! Good to see you're back.

Heck, I should've also included 'Hoax' as one of the options!! But anyway, thanx for educating us on this vid.

Now how are we to believe what's real and what isn't? As Rick Riley says, what is, isn't, and what isn't, is!!


Cheers!



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 11:58 PM
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Trust no one, apparently.



posted on Feb, 2 2007 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Hi Isaac!

Haven't seen you around of late!! Good to see you're back.



Thanks Mike. It's always nice to be made to feel welcome.

I've been lurking on ATS (and reading most posts on this forum), but haven't been posting very much because I'm trying to finish off a couple of projects that I've been focusing upon for the last year or two.

Basically, I'm trying to finalise two main projects:

(1) "The Top 100" : Material (currently in 24 parts) about lists of the "best cases" or "top cases" (produced by various individuals, groups and as the result of various polls and meetings of ufologists), and whether such lists can be (and the extent to which they have been) based on various qualitative and quantitative criteria rather than mere whim. This project has grown in scope quite a bit during the last year or two - hence the need for 24 (or more) parts.

(2) "Infamous UFO cases" : Material relating to some of the more infamous UFO cases which keep cropping up, particularly on the Internet. This material focuses in particular on hoaxed UFO videos which appear on certain forums on a very frequent basis (not to mention appearing as multiple copies on Youtube and Google Video), despite the fact that the background to some of those videos is reasonably well known and discovering the background to some of the other hoaxes was relatively straightforward.

The current thread is relevant to the second of these projects, hence my posting in it.

Kind Regards,

Isaac


[edit on 2-2-2007 by IsaacKoi]



posted on Feb, 2 2007 @ 07:20 PM
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How many pilots actually carry video cams while they are flying, let alone capture this crap.

Give me a break



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