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Another Call for a North American Union

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posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by DYepes
I am sorry if you are offended because your paranoid fantasies are a bit off, but noone is perfect. It can be quite disheartening when your accusations are proven false, but frankly you should be pleased. There are no laws being broken, and it is not going against the constitution. You just said it yourself.

Dont worry be happy.


That's pretty good. Sounds like something my 10 year old would say. I can almost picture you sticking your tounge out at the computer screen.

:shk: DYepes, DYepes, DYepes...

1.) No I am not offended.

2.) My "paranoid fantasies" are right on the money.

3.) I don't think I've ever implied myself as being perfect.

4.) Yes, I'm certain it is disheartening when your accusations are proven false, as have yours unaccredited assertions been. You have shown absolutely "zero" evidence, as means to bolster your "opinion" in order to prove the formation of the N.A.U. is but just an "idea".

5.) If you'd pay attention, you'll see that I've already stated that there are no laws being broken, "because there hasn't been a treaty signed, yet." When that formation is complete, the treaty will be signed, and thus nullifying the U.S. Constitution. That hasn't been any part of the discussion. The steps being taken by the government, to put the pieces together for the formation of the North American Union have been.

6.) Yes, I am very pleased, because you have single handedly made yourself look like the pompass *rearend* you really are. You have been so hell bent for election to disprove the American People's concerns, and you've foughten a debate with "zero" credible ammunition, absolutely nothing to back up your claims.

7.) Don't you worry.... thanks to your uneducated attempts to thwart the people from knowing the truth about the formation of the North American Union, and the death of the U.S. Constitution.... I am very very happy.

[edit on 2/5/2007 by Infoholic]




posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 01:22 AM
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Well whatever happens, know this. YOU wil have absolutley no say in it. You will have absolutley no control over what happens. You will be completely impotent to do anything about it. Even if my jeers make you decide you will actually go out and try to educate your fellow citizens, noone will care. They will ignore you, and think you a loon. And when it does happen, they practically will not even notice.

You really have nothing to fear, just live your life and enjoy it. Its not as if this will bring your quality of life down.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:02 AM
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Again, DYepes, you are wrong. "I" will have some say in it, because:

1.) The United States Constitution is still alive and protecting my rights.
2.) America, of which the Constitution built, is still America, of which is a "democratic republic", of which... INCLUDES ME (and everyone else in America) INTO THE GOVERNMENT!
3.) I will have "however much" control over what happens, as long as I remain actively participating in whatever is going on. That means, I'll get out of "it" what I put into "it".
4.) I will become impotent to what is going on..... ONLY if I decide for myself to "play dead" and do nothing.

Spending this "quality" time together with you online, debating the future of America has no bearing on what I shall do. But if I must inform you, I have been "actively" excersising my rights as an American Citizen, and having my voice heard, looooooong before I began this particular thread. I guess that would mean, your "jeers" have absolutely no bearing on my thought process and will to protect the Nation that has provided for myself and countless other American citizens.

And no, your uneducated guesses as to the future of America will not affect my sleeping pattern as well.

Peace,

Info



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:27 AM
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Exactly. Anything that is against the constitution must be ignored and protested. It's against the constitution, it's unconstitutional, there's no legal value, so they have no right to enforce it. That's what a real patriot do, ignore and protest against unconstitutional and dictatorials powers.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Exactly. Anything that is against the constitution must be ignored and protested. It's against the constitution, it's unconstitutional, there's no legal value, so they have no right to enforce it. That's what a real patriot do, ignore and protest against unconstitutional and dictatorials powers.


What if the majority of people want it though, this is a democratic
country, and if the majority of people want something that is con-
sidered unconstiutional, than congress has the power to change it
so it's not.


What if the majority of people in the three countries wanted an NAU,
and were able to create a mutual constitution that was as good,
if not better than the American constitution, what than?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
What if the majority of people want it though, this is a democratic
country, and if the majority of people want something that is con-
sidered unconstiutional, than congress has the power to change it
so it's not.


What if the majority of people in the three countries wanted an NAU,
and were able to create a mutual constitution that was as good,
if not better than the American constitution, what than?


Your "what if" scenario doesn't hold any water, iori_komei.




Just a simple poll, quickly shoots your "theory" dead in the water.
source

So as you can see... the "majority" said no
already.

[edit on 2/5/2007 by Infoholic]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 05:47 PM
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I'm not saying the majority is, I'm just asking, what if the
majority was in favour of it though.


Add to that, I generally would'nt put alot of trust into polls, as
the people who know about the poll, are generally people who
watch the show, and geenrally agree with the shows anchor.


Though I'm not saying that the majority support it.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
I'm not saying the majority is, I'm just asking, what if the
majority was in favour of it though.

Then, I would agree that if the majority wanted it, and it was given to the public in a non-malicious way (meaning, not dealt behind their backs), and voted on, then yes the N.A.U. would come to exist.

However, that's not the case.



Originally posted by iori_komei
Add to that, I generally would'nt put alot of trust into polls, as
the people who know about the poll, are generally people who
watch the show, and geenrally agree with the shows anchor.


Here's what I did, as to clarify that I did not know about the poll, I don't watch CNN, I don't watch Lou Dobbs, I don't agree with any specific news anchor.

1.) Open a new tab
2.) Go to www.google.com...
3.) In the "search bar" type: polls for the north american union

Here's what my results were: www.google.com...


ape

posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 06:16 PM
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canada is a liberal country correct? mexicos left wants total socialism. the US citizen knows this as we see it and read about it, we do not want to merge with these countries and have conservative views totally disregarded and blocked as we would merge politically from what I understand. talk about some major blue states. not to mention other technicalities that I mentioned previous.

good work on posting that poll, the poll represents the majority of americans aside from those people that marched for illegals in 06.



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