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NIGHTMARE: Woman gives birth, hospital makes her Quadruple Amputee...won't say why!

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posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 03:11 PM
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This was on the news sometime last year. Its just awful. That poor woman went in healthy and came out quadruple amputee. Its sad watching her play with her child like that. No amount of money in the world could ever return what was lost.




posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 03:20 PM
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Before i even started reading the story i figured " must be in a third world country". Like everyone i'm shocked. Reminds me of a movie where this kid was shot and didnt want to goto a hospital because he said" PEOPLE DIE IN HOSPITALS". If this was me i would be pissed they didnt just F'in kill me. Maybe they needed limbs for transplants for someone with crap load of money and figured it they had good enough lawyers to get away with it, probably not. The idea that she caught it from someone else is more likely. I know that I would be scared #less to go to that hospital for even a vaccine, might get a dirty AIDS infected needle or something.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 03:43 PM
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This sounds like a case of mistaken identity. Patient A needs quadruple amputation, but stressed out nurse accidentally swaps Patient A's papers with Patient B's papers. Patient B receives operation that was intended for Patient A. That would explain why the hospital is playing the privacy card: the hospital won't admit to the mixup because technically it would violate Patient A's privacy.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 04:07 PM
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I am numbed and speechless, almost.

What an outrage! I can't write what I'm thinking or I'll be banned for ATS.

My questions:

Why doesn't her hubsand know what happened? If she was unconscious or otherwise unable to be informed of her condition and give consent, they would/should have kept her husband informed of every detail and consulted him regarding her treatment. She and her husband should have been informed. They had the option and the right to have her transferred to a more sterile, modern, and competent facility.

If there was a language barrier, they should have brought in a translator if they don't have one on staff. How long does that take, half an hour?

What did they do with her amputated limbs? Those limbs are at least a large part of the crucial evidence in her case.

Who owns amputated body parts? The person from whom they were taken or the doctor/hospital who took them?

This smacks of criminally intentional, deliberate, reckless, or at least grossly negligent malpractice on the part of the hospital, its staff, doctors, and/or surgeons . . . everyone involved. What were they thinking?!? Are they testing the limits of what they can get away with?

On the other hand, there's 1 in a million billion trillion chance of an innocent explanation for this.

[edit on 1/31/2007 by dubiousone]



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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Not that you haven't already heard this from many, but I don't know what to say!! I'm speechless too and rather in shock. How in the hell could this have been allowed to happen? I hope heads roll big time.

Even if she finds out how it feels to be filthy rich, how can she possibly find any way to enjoy all the money. Everything I can think of to spend money on, would require me to be physically able from the smallest hobby, to the grandest of vacations. I feel sick



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 04:44 PM
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At first I thought, OMG they did this to another woman!?


IOW, this has been previously covered:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But by all means, feel free to continue the conversation here, I am linking for reference.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by freakytyThis sounds like a case of mistaken identity

?

www.wftv.com...
She was told she had streptococcus, a flesh eating bacteria, and toxic shock syndrome

Doesn't seem like a mix up, seems like they are saying its a "nosocomial" infection. (yes, I DID learn a new word the other day, glad to see I could use it, well, not that glad)



[edit on 31-1-2007 by Nygdan]



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by ferretman2
WOW! Un F'in believeable!!

If this was a botched job then everyone who was in the operating room at the time should be jailed and the hospital should be sued. The hospital board members should be sued and jailed.


I couldnt agree more,in fact you took the words outta my mouth.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 05:10 PM
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As a nurse who has had to get signed consent prior to surgery for many patients, I can tell you that there are many steps and many people involved before surgery is performed.

First, the doctor tells the patient they need surgery and why. They write an order to obtain consent from the patient.

Second, the nurse goes in and explains to the patient what all is involved. It's all written down on the consent form which also has a place on the form where the patient has to say, "I understand this surgery to be______ for the purpose of______".
The day of the surgery, the anesthesiologist talks to the patient and tells them how the operation will go; ie, "We're going to give you drug x in your IV line which will put you to sleep, etc." "Do you have any questions?" The operating room nurses "prep" the patient; ie, mark a big "X" on the limb that is NOT getting amputated (btw, different hospitals have different systems for this safety precaution but all O.R. nurses are well versed in which one their hospital uses.)

At every stage of this, the family is as involved as the patient decides they can be. If there is a communication barrier and any one of the above mentioned people decide that the patient doesn't understand English, then the patient advocate of the hospital and/or a social worker is called upon to obtain a translator. The hospital keeps a list of bilingual people so that even the nurse can call. In emergencies, I have utilized the family members of OTHER patients to come in and translate (big violation of privacy but I needed answers NOW and didn't have time to even make a call much less wait for the translator to drive up to the hospital).

The only exception to the above procedure is if the patient comes in with an imminently life-threatening condition that requires drastic measures to save their life. If the condition is not imminently life-threatening (can wait even one hour) then the patient is awakened in the recovery room, told of the need for urgent surgery and another consent is obtained for that surgery when the anesthesia clears from their head enough for them to make an informed and non-drugged decision about their health.

If the story is as the woman claims it is, the hospital has committed an unconscienable violation. I would love to assist her lawyer on this case even though suing the crap out of the hospital would not give her back the life she had.

Some nurse undoubtedly knows what happened and is probably bursting at the seams to call a news crew but having been in similar situations myself, I can tell you that the nurse better have a really good lawyer and a backup profession because she will be sued, brought up on criminal charges and NEVER work as a nurse again. It is possible to slip a note to the family via snail mail telling them what happened and where to look in the chart for the evidence but it can't be in the nurses handwriting. (Not that I'd know anything about that. *clears throat*) Telling her that she needs to sue the hospital in order to get information is their way of slipping her that note without having a backup profession, etc.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 05:15 PM
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I feel that the most telling parts of this story is as follows:


... She was told she had streptococcus, a flesh eating bacteria, and toxic shock syndrome, but no further explanation was given. ...


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Mejia said after she gave birth to Mathew last spring, she was kept in the hospital with complications. Twelve days after giving birth at Orlando Regional South Seminole hospital, she was transported to Orlando Regional Medical Center where she became a quadruple amputee. Now she can not care for or hold her baby.

"Yeah, I want to pick him up. He wants me to pick him up. I can't. I want to, but I can't," she said. "Woke up from surgery and I had no arms and no legs. No one told me anything. My arms and legs were just gone." Source


It is clear that, if she is telling the truth, she did not have sufficient understanding of her ailment or what treating it might entail. She was told she had an infection and toxic shock syndrome, but - again, to be fair, assuming she has been truthful - did not comprehend the potential implications of this. I may be entirely incorrect, but I believe it should be a physician's responsibility to adequately and comprehensively explain to a patient what their infirmity is, what might have to be done in order to save their life, and what the implications of that may be. Only then does the patient have the information necessary to consent to the procedure. If this is correct, then in a sense, this was done to her without her consent. Again, I may be wrong.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
This woman may never know what its like to hold her child but she will know what its like to be filthy, filthy RICH.


no amount of money could make me happy if this had occurred to me


i would rather die than have this occur to me






posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by AceWombat04
It is clear that, if she is telling the truth, she did not have sufficient understanding of her ailment or what treating it might entail. She was told she had an infection and toxic shock syndrome, but - again, to be fair, assuming she has been truthful - did not comprehend the potential implications of this. I may be entirely incorrect, but I believe it should be a physician's responsibility to adequately and comprehensively explain to a patient what their infirmity is, what might have to be done in order to save their life, and what the implications of that may be. Only then does the patient have the information necessary to consent to the procedure. If this is correct, then in a sense, this was done to her without her consent. Again, I may be wrong.


I'll side with the woman on this one, because I believe she is telling the truth. I wonder if the OBGYN was an american or not. I remember my OBGYN with my oldest. Looking back, I don't know why I just didn't call the insurance co and request a new one. She almost cost my child's life.

It started out fine. My husband was there for every session. I couldn't understand her at all. My husband later on told me that he had a hard time understanding her. Later on she turned into a witch. She got angry at me for not being able to undersatnd her eventhough she spoke english. I'll add extremely soft. She practically whispered to me, and I have a hard time hearing low tones and voices initially. As time went on, she started to get more angry with me.

We were close to switching, but it was so close to the due date that we decided it would be better to stick with her. I wish I changed. She was worried the baby hasen't changed position yet. It was a week or two past the supposed due date, and no signs of labor. She decided to do artifical induction. I had a hard time pushing her out, since I was on so many pain meds by the time she actually got around to me to deliver. She was going to do an emergancy C section, but the head nurse stopped her and said we were going to have it here. It was almost out.

The doc stormed out. She later came back in and used some type of vac instead of forcepts. My daughter wasen't breathing. They had to recussicitate her, and she had to be put on oxygen for a week before she could breathe on her own.

I'm now thinking she wasen't developed enough, or she wouldn't have had to have pure oxygen to start out with. I think another doctor would have waited another week. My husband said he thought she did this early, since she seemed to be sick and tired of me.

Here is the icing on the cake. After the delivery, she came in, yelled at me, and told me point blank that I never followed any of her orders. Continued to rant and rave for a couple more minutes. I guess at least I was actually able to hear her crystal clear with out needing someone else there to tell me what she said. I know my husband was not there with me.

The nurse that was put in charge of me, was the worst I have ever came across. She made what would have been a pleasant stay an extremely miserable one. She practically had a hissy fit right outside of my door to the other nurses that she couldn't work in the nursery, but had to work with the mothers. She complained how she had experience, she wanted to be there, should be there, it wasen't fair that the other nurse got that position, and etc.

Needless to say, I made sure I got an American doctor that spoke english in a normal tone of voice so I could clearly hear and understand her. That was the best move I ever made. My second was a C-section, but not an emergancy so my hubby was with me in the operating room. My mom was with me during my last pregnancy, since my hubby couldn't be with me.

I'm not sure what went on with this lady's case, but because of my experience I'm siding with the lady. I'm glad to hear she has a lawyer. I hope she gets the information even if it states patient x. She is not going to be going after patient x, but after the doctor and hospital. After she finds out why, I hope she goes further and files neglance and other charges. I hope the lawyer is good enough to stick it to them good.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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unexplainable rage. This is just so messed up. Where do they get the nerve to do this?..and to blatantly lie about it. I'm amazed.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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But... patients have also been known to lie (remember the famous "I found a human finger in my chicken nuggets" lawsuit? Turned out the lady planted the evidence and lied.) Nor does the "you'll have to sue us to get access" make any sense.


It was chili actually. It was at the Wendys that i grew up going to with my best friend almost every week. When I heard about it i was soooo grossed out. I haven't eaten there since, even if it was planeted.


Ah, so many memories.

Anyways, back on topic. This is really sad. Where was her family? By saying they can't tell her because it would compromise another patients privacy rights does that mean she cought the disease from another patient
I hope she gets lots of money.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:17 PM
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Must have been flesh eating disease. She's lucky to be alive. The hospitals all across North America are plagued with antibiotic resistant bacteria. That kind of thing is happening more often. They're all going to close ranks to cover their legal asses because limb amputations to deal with resistant bacteria isn't going away. I wonder how many have died this last year from infections picked up in hospital.
They don't want to reveal the identity of the other patient. I guess that's their legal shield. High death rates in hospitals and it's not just the terminally ill.

Poor woman, what a terrible trauma. At least the baby will still have his mother.

I bet if they hired more cleaning staff and paid them enough to live on the problem would be halved.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:34 PM
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If you check out the earlier thread, you will see that the hospital is legally barred from revealing a patients medical information.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
At first I thought, OMG they did this to another woman!?


IOW, this has been previously covered:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But by all means, feel free to continue the conversation here, I am linking for reference.


My deepest apologies to WyrdeOne. I did not know he already started a thread on this story.

Sorry, man. My mistake.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah

Originally posted by bluesquareapple
The only reason they would have pulled the patient privacy card is if she contracted it from an infected person in the hospital.


Indeed. If she had the disease before she went to the hospital, she would have noticed it.


Not necessarily. She would have known she had problems, but if she is an immigrant or temporary worker, she may not have gone into the hospital until she was actively in labor. This is true of many low income folks... they don't go into the hospital until they are in a desperate state because they can't afford meds and treatment.

Any firefighters on this board can tell you that the majority of their hospital transports are of poor patients who wait until their health is dangerously bad before they go to a hospital.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
...the majority of their hospital transports are of poor patients who wait until their health is dangerously bad before they go to a hospital.


Not really that surprising. What alternative do they really have?

I hope there is more to this story. Nightmare does not even begin to express what it sounds like now.

[edit on 31-1-2007 by loam]



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by shai hulud
Well, better get used to more of this when socialized medicine is implemented in this country. At least this lady can sue the hospital, ever try to sue the government?


Shai hulud (being of eternity), I wonder which countries you are referring to? Have you looked at the Scandinavian nations of Europe?
This, if it occurred would create tremendous outrage and immediate prosecution of the involved parties.
Scandinavia as other parts of Europe have state financed health care, but they are by far the most advanced countries implementing this system.

It can not be compared to socialism. The inhabitants taxes provide equally to the well being of all , distributed by Democratically elected governments.

I am appalled to witness such absolute arrogance displayed by the Hospital, and perhaps even more amazed that the we American people continue to constitute leaders who permit such acts.
Have we no compassion or care for the individual?
WIS



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