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How Many People Needed To Carry Out 9/11

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posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:15 AM
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This is a question directed at people who believe that the US Goverment carried out the attacks on 9/11. If people who do not believe the US Government did it but can help in answering the question that would be great too.

So, I was wondering how many people would be needed to have made 9/11 happen. And out of everyone involved how many would have been aware of the seriousness of their actions?

I cannot comprehend how many people would be needed but if it was in the hundreds how could you make sure 100% that they would never leak what happened?

People say how the media are prevented by the US Goverment on reporting certain events. Surely at least one person who works for a news agency would come forward and say that the Goverment have forced them into not reporting xxx news.

Any thoughts and opinions on this would be awesome and thanks in advance.




posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 01:12 PM
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I think maybe 100 people. Some people (maybe 5-10) who were involved in the technical preparations (not real insiders) died in the attacks (on the planes and in the towers).

IMHO, among the 50-100 people were

- New York Office of Emergency Manegement (OEM) people. They were in the OEM Watch Command Bunker in WTC building 7.
~ 10

- Mayor Guilani and close associates
~ 5

- People from the FBI (especially New York FBI office), other agencies
~ 10

- Military personnel
~ 20-30

- Planners, administration, big guys
~ 20-30

- Insiders at the NY police and fire department
~ 5

- preparation, research (remote control), miltary contractors (Raytheon etc., Lockheed, Boeing)
~ 15

- Controlled demolition, preparations WTC and Pentagon
~ 30



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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I really don't think it matters how many people would have been needed to carry out 9/11. How many people would have been needed to carry out Northwoods?

Obviously, based on the detailed plans drawn up in Operation Northwoods, in 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff believed that it was feasible to fake the hijacking of commerical airliners, complete with mid-air switching of CIA aircraft for commercial airliners, along with a fake list of victims, fake funerals, etc. The plan even called for a submarine to spread fake airplane wreckage on the ocean to make it look like a plane crash.

The most chilling aspect of Northwoods was the fact that the plans called for real or fake victims -they obviously didn't care if they murdered innocent people to carry out their agenda.

And in case you didn't notice, anybody who goes public with any information that even begins to touch the surface of what the government is secretly doing is persecuted. The Able Danger investigation led by Curt Weldon immediately comes to mind. Cynthia McKinney was also made into a national laughing-stock and run out of town after she challenged Rumsfeld about unaccounted money at the Pentagon.

And I would also guess that military intelligence officers and CIA agents probably sign some sort of a document that would make it a capital crime to reveal national secrets. I don't recall a whole lot of CIA types going public with ANY stories of the secret missions.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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If you want a real answer you would have to ask someone like G. Gordon Liddy or Oliver North, someone who has actulaly done black ops operations. But they usually work with small groups.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by ephrin

I think maybe 100 people. Some people (maybe 5-10) who were involved in the technical preparations (not real insiders) died in the attacks (on the planes and in the towers).

IMHO, among the 50-100 people were

- New York Office of Emergency Manegement (OEM) people. They were in the OEM Watch Command Bunker in WTC building 7.
~ 10

- Mayor Guilani and close associates
~ 5

- People from the FBI (especially New York FBI office), other agencies
~ 10

- Military personnel
~ 20-30

- Planners, administration, big guys
~ 20-30

- Insiders at the NY police and fire department
~ 5

- preparation, research (remote control), miltary contractors (Raytheon etc., Lockheed, Boeing)
~ 15

- Controlled demolition, preparations WTC and Pentagon
~ 30


now out of all them.......how many could have been "just following orders" and had NO clue what they were doing?


id say the number is alot smaller, bush had to authorize it, rummy drew it up... cheney helped... id say..........30 people knew... bush ragime and a few top PNAC members... and top CFR guys...tops.



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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They haven't been able to contain the leaks...is anyone paying attention here? The simple fact is, it doesn't matter if thousands of people were involved in this attack, and they all talk about it. The idea of government involvement is too much for typical small American minds to handle. As long as the media is cooperative w/ the powers that be, the soccer moms and working fathers will never ask questions.

They deserve what they get...



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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the 8 zealots with flight training & whomever was financing them for ?2-3? years

the strong arm hijackers (12 martyrs), themselves were ordered/recruited to be on stand-by only 1-2 months before hand & weren't privy of the other aircraft involved...(compartmentalization, learned from the US Intel protocols)

the towers collapsing, surprised & stunned the authorities that LIHOP,



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 08:37 PM
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Why the hell would anybody come forward? So they can be lynched? So they can be sent to the electric chair?!!!!

If you were responsible for the murder of thousands of people, WHY THE HELL would "they" need to take any special measures to keep insiders quiet?

How do bank robbers keep each other from leaking it to the media?

How does the mob prevent its members from exposing themselves?

How do drug dealers keep their clients and suppliers quiet?

How does the CIA prevent undercover agents from leaking other undercover agents?

How does the military keep classified operations from the public for decades?


The only way criminals squeal on each other is when there's something to gain; money, power, plea barganing deals.

Bank robbers out each other after they are caught so that they can get a deal.

Mob members will turn on each other to get rid of competition, to move up in the organization, or for plea bargaining deals. Usually they kill their adversary, although sometimes they set them up to get busted. Sometimes they wear a wire for plea bargaining and then go into witness protection.

Drug dealers have no reason to out their suppliers or customers, unless they need a plea bargain. Sometimes they will drop a dime on their competition to remove them. Drug users aren't just going to call the cops on their drug supplier unless they need a plea bargain.

CIA agents will sometimes work as double agents for money. MONEY!

The fact of the matter is folks, all sorts of criminals work underground for long stretches of time without getting busted.

What leverage / benefit / pressure is there for a 911 insider to come forward? Can you come up with one single reason???

Money? NOPE

Power? NOPE

Plea bargaining? NOPE, not until they get busted. With your help that will never happen.

Guilty conscience? NOPE! These people would never get involved in something like this in the first place if they were a moral ethical kind of person. They have long track records of covertly killing innocent people for "them" before they ever move up to a position or operation like 911.

Why would they come forward? To get killed? To have nobody believe them?

What evidence would they have? Nothing? Just their word???

Who's going to protect them? The military that was involved in this? The media that was complacent? The courts that are destroying the constitution?


What happens to whistle blowers? Their lives suck!

How could they not keep it quiet?!!!

[edit on 2/11/2007 by sp00n1]



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 11:43 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

Go ask this guy. He can tell you how many people it took.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 08:52 AM
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Yeah, and while your at it... Why dont you ask him about the help he received from the FBI and NYC NYPD / DA's office in the 1993 bombing.

Bombs were built under the supervision of the FBI. FBI knew well in advance but simply failed to act. Hmmmm....

www.evtv1.com...



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by sp00n1
Bombs were built under the supervision of the FBI. FBI knew well in advance but simply failed to act. Hmmmm....



then i have to ask...why didnt anyone realize that adding the hydrogen canisters would increase the heat of the blast and burn off the cyanide that was supposed to poison the smoke and kill or injure the rescuers that would have come running in without breathing aparatus?

seems like a really newbie mistake for an FBI bomb guy to make...


or was that never made public and i just stepped on my phallus by revealing a secret? oops....



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 09:18 AM
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The real question is why didnt the FBI stop the bombing. They knew it was going on. They had an informant on the inside. He told them everything. He was an egyptian, former intelligence officer with the egyptian military. Came to the states in 88 and became and fbi informant. Emad Salem was his name.

If you look around the net, there are the original tape recordings he made while talking with the FBI. The FBI had no idea he was recording it.

Supposedly the FBI was going to replace the real bomb materials with "harmless powder" since they knew exactly when it was going to happen. Apparently they just got lazy and didnt do anything.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 09:25 AM
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The FBI watched these guys build the bomb. They didnt know they were being watched. The FBI wasnt telling them what to do.

The FBI was supposed to switch out the bomb material and bust the guys after they tried to set it off. Instead they just decided to sit back and let the guys try to knock down the WTC towers.

[edit on 2/12/2007 by sp00n1]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 10:47 AM
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Damocules, what a weird question.
You are not curious as to why the FBI let the bombing happen, you are curious as to why they didnt make the bomb more deadly?

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Check that thread please.

As far as 'how many people?' Well, I havent sat down and figured it out, but I would say 25 to 30 henchmen, most of which are probably dead by now.
I dont really care how many people it took to carry it out.
IF the truth ever comes out, MANY heads will roll, because its not about how many it took to plan and execute 9/11, its about how many it takes to keep the lie going.....heads of media, congressmen, various cabinet members, the 9/11 commission, even if they weren't in on the planning of 9/11, they have commited treason by turning a blind eye to the facts.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by sp00n1
The FBI watched these guys build the bomb. They didnt know they were being watched. The FBI wasnt telling them what to do.
[edit on 2/12/2007 by sp00n1]


then isnt this statement:

Originally posted by sp00n1
Bombs were built under the supervision of the FBI.


slightly misleading?

im just trying to zero in on what the perception of the level of involvment was on the part of our govt. did they "know" it was going to happen or did they "supervise" it, which implies that they had a guy there mixing anfo with the terrorists. and if that was the case, then it implies that they wanted the bomb to go off...so, one would ask, if they were complicit and wanted the bomb to go off, why would they make such a newbie mistake? then also why would they make the newbie mistake of using such a bad trigger that it went off when the van hit a speed bump in the garage instead of where they actually wanted it?

i mean cuz there were some SERIOUS mistakes made with the construction of that device...i mean serious...


so, im just trying to get a picture of what the perception is here. were they "in on it" and inept or were they just aware of it and inept?

or were they clueless and caught off guard like everyone else?


now, to stay on topic cuz i can see this could be construed as a derailment attempt and thats not the intent at all...

ok first you have the people that came up with the idea and their trusted insiders. thats bush cheney and a few others in their circle. (i doubt rummy was in on it or he'd have been far away from teh pentagon that day im sure)
next were the actual planners of it. few people to brainstorm it
then you have the operatives. the guys that did the dirty work. need a few teams for that one.
next you have some logistical support. fake id's, supplies (you'd want clean weapons and someone somewhere has to account for the "explosives" used in the buildings)
then you have more logistical support to get the people in place.
then theres the commo people, gotta talk to your teams
finally you have your counter intel people to make sure everyone is on the same page in calling it a terrorist event. considering theres lots of people to talk to, this could ahve been a large team (firefighters, paramedics, reporters, witnesses etc)
then theres the cleanup people who "didnt see nuthin"
dont forget then the whole team of professionals at nist and fema who were there to 'get the official story out no matter what'

so, thats a few people al willing to keep quiet no matter what. all with absolutly no concience.

OR

you have a team of like 5 guys in a cave to dream this up. they have a few people to get money from supporters of their cause. and 20 martyrs willing to die to make it happen.

take your pick

[edit on 12-2-2007 by Damocles]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 12:45 PM
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Conspiracy is a few people, like Flight 93. Cheney, Mineta, the mystery sailor and a pilot. That is compartmentalization. 4 people and you cover up the shooting down of an airliner.

Now, to plan the WTC 1,2 and 7 collapse with airliners, you are talking more than a 100 byt less than 400. All those passengers on the remote comtrol planes have to be counted remember. Do you truly think all those people could keep quiet or be killed? It would be naive to think so. Why risk kliling them in prtoective custody when you could leave them on the planes and remote them in. That would be cleaning up a mess.

Al-qeada caught a complacent nation and taught us a lesson.




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