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Visitors may not have had Nuclear Technology.

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posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 07:19 PM
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I believe that part of the reason Earth has had ANY sway at all, as well as any SAY in some of the activity that has been occurring, (if it has really been occurring), is that, for the most part, the Visitors to our little planet lack Nuclear Technology.

First of all, from what I have read, any residual radiation involved in close encounters, are usually of the same amount that could be found on any materials soaking up energy in space without shielding.

Also, I do not believe that Nuclear Technology is the pinnacle of power, economy and simplicity. As far as I am concerned, a truly brilliant, or advanced step in power and transportation, will probably end up leaning primarily on it's simplicity.

Magnetic, Electrical, Gravitic sources, etc., all seem like more likely candidates for an advanced culture to utilize. They may view us the same way we would view a new tribe from the Amazon Basin, that has managed to create Megatons of energy from a new way of burning Guano!

I have never believed in the "Swapping of Technology for our People" theory. Maybe it is possible for a few, isolated reasons, but for the most part, if an advanced race wanted humans for experimentation, or any other reasons, they could have just grabbed a few from the middle of nowhere, and bred their own.

Nope, I believe we have a case of "the medicine man having some kind of herb that is wanted by modern medicine." If you get what I mean.

This is just my opinion and theory, but arguments are always welcome!




posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 08:58 PM
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Well, I think your theory is flawed. Any advanced species with the capability to travel light years across space is going to have to know how radiation works. Once you understand the idea of radiant energy, it isnt a large leap of understanding to understanding what can cause it and how to harness it.

I do agree that from what I have read of some "ET" encounters, they seem to have a hard time keeping from irradiating things. Why this is? I dont know. I have heard of a woman who had a close encounter and died of radiation poisoning. I have heard the same thing about a brazilian man in the 1950's.

I would imagine that if their reason for being here had anything to do with nuclear technology, it would be because the use of such technology in offensive weapons is probably abhorrent to them and they banned it.



posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by IeatALIENS
Nope, I believe we have a case of "the medicine man having some kind of herb that is wanted by modern medicine." If you get what I mean.

Thought of this once awhile back, however, if it's true, then they've already taken it. I remember a case from the seventies where there was UFO activity over an ICBM silo and the missles were deactivated. Upon investigation it was discovered that nuclear material was missing. This could just be hearsay, but that's the word on the street.



posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 10:24 PM
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It's not that they don't understand the concept of radiation and nuclear power. My point is, if they capitalized on more potent and available energy, before taking atomic power as far as we have, they may have never needed to discover some of what we have discovered.

Like, if we stumbled across a tribe that has managed to discover a way to get more power from processing manure, than we get from gasoline.

After all, another thing we discuss in here, is whether or not our ancestors had secrets pertaining to unlimited power. That would obviously be something we have left in our distant past, choosing to follow other paths.



posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by IeatALIENS
Magnetic, Electrical, Gravitic sources, etc., all seem like more likely candidates for an advanced culture to utilize. They may view us the same way we would view a new tribe from the Amazon Basin, that has managed to create Megatons of energy from a new way of burning Guano!


They can generate more energy than all our Nuclear Power Plant can with small machines
You really think they care about Nuclear Power?

Check this out my friend: You should have the answers you need in there.
www.cheniere.org...

mod edit: trimmed quote

[edit on 31-1-2007 by sanctum]



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by Sunsetspawn
Thought of this once awhile back, however, if it's true, then they've already taken it. I remember a case from the seventies where there was UFO activity over an ICBM silo and the missles were deactivated. Upon investigation it was discovered that nuclear material was missing. This could just be hearsay, but that's the word on the street.


Sounds like you're talking about the Malmstom incident. I haven't heard about the warheads being stolen though, just de-activated (however if they were able to remotely de-activate the nukes this suggests to me they have a good understanding of how the technology works):

www.cufon.org...

I do think UFOs have demonstrated an interest in our nuclear technology (Rendelsham also comes to mind, since nukes were unofficially being kept on site) but I believe this stems from a general interest in the advancement of human civilisation, something that they may have been guiding for a very long time. I think it was on one of the Disclosure Project videos that a witness likened it to "the kids finding the matches" and I believe this to be a good metaphor for the ET interest in our nuclear technology.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:15 AM
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Ok, for the sake of argument, lets say they never developed any nuclear energy sources. As someone else said, they would have found better methods. So what would they want with it? If they could not generate power or find a way to create even more power from it, why even bother with it? Unless they want nuclear weapons.

OMG! someone call bush! the aliens are creating weapons of mass destruction!

******************** White House Statement *********************

Ladies and Gentlemen, the president of the Unites States:

My fellow Americans, It has come to my attention that the aliens are creating weapons of mass destruction. Yes! its true this time! they are creating weapons of mass destruction. Therefore, I have proposed that NASA create a rocket ship that will land troops on the shores of their world. I am calling it.... Alien V-day Independance day! I am also expanding the war on terror and calling it the war on the galaxy.

couldnt resist!



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:30 AM
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My thought includes EBE knowledge of nuclear power and weaponry. An article most researchers are aware of, some believers and some non believers, was an interview done with Thomas Castello, now presumes dead or at least hidden. Below I have quoted a paragraph of an interview with him before his disappearance where talks about BEB Reps and some of the magnetism used for lighting and power in caverns and such inhabited by these Rep EBEs, ie

A "(answer by T Castello)-- "...The aliens use magnetics for EVERY THING! They use magnetics as the basic structure for their energy source. The more you learn about magnetics, the better. The Human Race calls them 'magnets', the Aliens call them 'lodestar'. They have been harvesting lodestars [lodestones] for centuries. Not only that, they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting that power, now and in the future. As long as we were only using magnetic power as an oddity, there was no problem. But in recent times, the human race has begun using magnetic power and finding more ways to utilize that commodity. There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race (or those who supposedly 'represented' the human race, if you could call it that - Branton) didn't mind at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As people searched for another source for power, we turned to magnetics. The aliens wanted a new treaty. What could we offer? They chose land, underground mining rights, animals and humans for new experiments. The general public NEVER KNEW about the treaty. The governmental [Bavarian cultist] heads of the world chose another treaty in 1933. This time 'we' got high-tech knowledge in exchange. So now, the more we use magnetics, the more they claim humans, and the lands of the U.S.A. We were 'sold' in exchange for magnets. If you doubt it, look around -- there are token companies that 'really' utilize magnetic power, but are depending on electric based or ceramic magnets, NOT lodestar [magnetic oxide of iron] based magnets..."

Castello Interview link: www.subversiveelement.com...

Sometimes, actually most times I would suppose its hard to pull out the possible from the seemingly impossible. After the Rendlesham 1980 case and the admittance of UFOs sending beams down to the tops of nuc weapon caches of the US AirForce reportedly causing the some of the weapons to become inactive, as admitted to by Ret Staff Sgt Penniston and/or Ret Big Gen Halt and others, the theory of EBE interest in stopping nuclear use for weaponry is a thought which I think may be possible. Sort of being around these days to save the Earth from nuc destruction.

Dallas



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 09:19 AM
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I believe that they see Nuclear Power as the"Oddity".
Nuclear power is dirty, difficult to concentrate and wasteful. Unless we are talking about "Fusion", which, as of yet, we aren't. We are talking about what we have now.

There are many, many possible scenarios occurring. I don't believe any of them have to do with Visitors, "Non-Human", caring about us.

Presuming they never felt it was prudent to develop advanced Nuclear Technologies, these are the Possibilities, (please note that I am only focusing on theories that adhere to this topic):

1. We threatened to nuke ourselves in the event of an invasion. And, somebody was looking into our nuke capabilities to see if we should be taken seriously.

2. I am no expert in "exotic energy", but maybe there are some things that Nuclear Power can be used for, that exceeds the capabilities of their present power sources. Maybe they have no weapons, and their energy canceling abilities are more of a bi-product of their power supply.

3. Yeah, maybe we are just being "studied", but "if" the universe is teeming with life, it means we are not unique. Which means there are tons of other backwater races around. Which means, it would be odd for our world to be the subject such an intense study by so many different advanced races for so long a duration.

4. Perhaps we are the "Little Brothers" of somebody out there. That would make sense of somebody's continued interest in us, and possible protection, even if it is a very "stand-offish" approach of protection. "Useless" is another good word for the type of protection we receive, since that would mean that somebody out there is just sitting back and watching us destroy our planet, each other and our potential future. But, maybe our nuclear capabilities have all been neutralized by them, and the general public does not know this. Have their been any recent nuke tests or anything?

Anyway, that's enough food for thought from me.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:12 AM
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With the recent events in new energies and gravitational technologies, most of which have nothing to do with radical upgrades in Nuclear Energy, this thread seems newly viable.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 11:49 AM
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I am in two camps about this. if they did not have nuclear technology how this if is true, they knew how to deactivate the nuclear weapons at the silo's as described earlier in the thread?. It is possible that a civilisation in order to advance to the next level of development would have dabbled in nuclear physics. Maybe not build weapons as we have done but used it for peaceful scientific research purposes? Another thought occured to me. What if a planet did not have uranuim in the rocks as we do on Earth but instead had some other substance that was just as potent or powerful as uranuim?.

I am edging toward the theory of ET having knowledge of nulcear power but instead use alternative forms of engery ie gravity propulsion systems, hyrdo power but advanced in nature. After all it is reported on the net that UFO's are powered by anti gravity devices. Difficult to debate this subject without otaining positive proof from ET about their power/energy policies/usage.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 12:56 PM
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I think evolution applies not just in our planet, so my guess is that they'd have to come in contact with nuclear technology sooner or later. I believe it comes with the territory so to speak, of trying to understand the universe and all things in it.

Nuclear technology can be (and is) used in a variety of applications, it's not just for power sources or as a weapon.
Advances in medicine, chemistry or even astronomy would have not been possible without nuclear technology.

My guess is that (more advanced) alien civilizations have realized that the usage of a nuclear power source, especially in a vehicle for space exploration, is simply just not efficient or safe, or both.

Even if we had electrogravitics propulsion technology, and work was allegedly done like 100 years(!) ago by Nicola Tesla, and more recently by other people such as T. Townsend Brown, we'd still need nuclear technology for a variety of things.

Whenever I think about this I can't help but wonder what would have happened if 100 years ago Nicola Tesla's work had been taken seriously and accepted by the scientific community...
My guess is that oil and coal wouldn't be used as power sources.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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The "Visitors" gave us nuclear technology... Do you really think they would allow us to detonate bombs? by the way where would be the safest place to live here on earth if they weren't visiting at all?



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by Bocephus
The "Visitors" gave us nuclear technology... Do you really think they would allow us to detonate bombs?


Please explain. I would like to know more about this.
Thank you.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:38 PM
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The Aliens aren't alien at all...
they are the Angels from the bible.. the Greek gods etc.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Bocephus
The Aliens aren't alien at all...
they are the Angels from the bible.. the Greek gods etc.


I know I will regret this, but what evidence and sources you have to support this claim?

Thanks.

[edit on 9-7-2007 by danx]



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:00 PM
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Start with Whitley Streiber...
and Also personal experience... if you checl out my threads it may help... also Nisurastar's Experiences with ET's



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:13 PM
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i have mixed views on this. so ill share a few simple ones.
if its true that "E.T's or Aliens" started visiting us at the brink of discovering nuclear technology, and at the same time of the cold war were tension was high for a severe nuclear holocaust and butchering of our own race, then like other members have established, they've came to either:

a) see if we are serious, hostility between one race could possibly seem petty to other life forms, well, ones with no aggressive background. the fact we were willing to destroy each other with stupidly dangerous amounts of toxic radiation, and heat must seem totally insane and out of the question.

b) like the first poster mentioned, maybe they didn't discover nuclear technology, perhaps they stumbled upon a means of generating power that was sufficient to them with out involving the splitting and harnessing of atoms, baring in mind other planets are bound to hold other elements not available to our planet as resourceful as earth is compared to planets in our solar system.

c) if they did have nuclear capabilities, they are likely to know a lot more than us about it, and we already know radiation travels long distances, just like radio waves, they could of visited on the intentions of stopping us polluting territory that frankly is'nt ours far fetched as it may sound.
just some theories anyways, many flaws and gaps i know. but then again were still waiting for E.Ts to be unveiled so.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:23 PM
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Way off track...
Who said they were visiting?
8==D



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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hahaha yeah i side tracked my bad guys!



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