Originally posted by myowncrusade
Who is trying to warn people of what? Do you mean this new surveillance tech?
the
limitless use of any kind of surveillance even though i have yet to understand why deterrence is so alluring to so many people. the logic
behind global surveillance is basically that everyone's a suspect. debate it all you wan't that's the premise, if you cannot read between the lines
and
understand that
laws are effectively installed unilaterally and that more surveillance will just mean more laws because the can
actually enforce them you might as welll stop reading right here.
Western parliaments produce hundreds of thousands of pages of new or amended law every year. law is there to prohibit and limit, so more laws mean
less room to breathe. doesn't matter if you willingly obey, once they have their way, the next thing is right around the corner, this is so surreal
that, where i live, speed limits are continuously reduced in order to create revenue from fines, where that does not work, they are flip-flopped every
few hours. the goal is therefore not security but money and power. everyone's a criminal at all times and can be treated as you please.
just because *you* personally don't know or notice all these infringements over time doesn't mean they are not there.
let's examine a favourite example of mine: nutrition
www.ffnmag.com...
Co-Q10, discovered in 1957, is poised for further growth in Europe as awareness builds and supply expands and stabilises. According to Euromonitor,
Norway is by far the biggest market followed by Russia, Belgium, the Netherlands and Denmark.
Some ambiguity remains in Europe as the detail of pan-European supplements legislation is negotiated, but it is legally on sale in most markets and is
expected to remain that way despite a ban in France on what can only be called highly conservative grounds. (France has banned co-Q10 in supplement
form for the moment not because it is deemed a threat to public health but because the French government has determined it is nutritionally
unnecessary by the bulk of the population.)
so, if they please they can do pretty much anything, banning a natural substance - it's none of their business, simply put. where does surveillance
come in?
well, imagine mandatory health testing (DNA testing is already established, for non-suspects, mind you:
news.independent.co.uk...) which could give away your illegal use of vitamin and mineral supplements - well it's
either dying of depletion and cancer like the rest of them or living in illegality.
there are more of course:
Cinnamon legislation for the heck of it
let's see what they have to say about coumarin (the alledged reason why they restricted Cinnamon use)
Source
Coumarin has blood-thinning, anti-fungicidal and anti-tumor activities. Coumarin should not be taken while using anticoagulants. Coumarin increases
the blood flow in the veins and decreases capillary permeability. Coumarin can be toxic when used at high doses for a long period
let me add: Salt can be toxic if used in high doses -- who determines what high means, it's our body not the state's, so these peeps need to take a
long walk off a short pier.
Tryptophan case
Codex
So, to be fully honest, i am not willing to sacrifice health and life on the altar of obedience, so the reason why i'm trying to warn everyone of
surveillance is that yes, you
will want to break the law, you just don't know it yet.
Where are these "means of control" you talk about? Would they be the ones everyone was worried about when they started putting cameras
everywhere?
I have never been "controlled" through surveillance, have you?
if cattle could speak, would the believe you if you told them they're in for a surprise when they get off the truck? did you know that such harmless
items as old radio licenses were once used to determine people's religion, in Norway, during WW2...? implications, think about them...
Violent & gun crime is down 6.9% this year and 35% since 1995: www.met.police.uk...
Bottom line; Who expects the right to privacy in a public street? The idea is a contradiction.
nice, there's a lot to say, but i've had enough by now and will just post a few articles:
www.spectator.org...
In 2002 a study found that 11 million crimes had been left out of British government figures, including hundreds of thousands of serious crimes
involving woundings, robberies, assaults and even murders as well as thefts. Dr. David Green of the Civitas research institute said: "When you
check the small print, it turns out the Home Office itself thinks that there were far more than the 13 million crimes discovered by the [official]
British Crime Survey, perhaps four times as many." Dr Green said the Office of National Statistics was subject to political interference and a
genuinely independent statistical service was needed.
another gem:
wheelgun.blogspot.com...
Yet the attacks are not included in the Government’s key measure of crime, which IGNORES offences on under-16s. [emphasis in the original]
if this is really true, i will hazard a guess why: gun control just has to work and denial is the weapon of choice.
lies, damn lies and ...
and had to go for a walk to clear my head of a few particularly nasty images. 
