Once when I was around 17 or 18 a friend and I were hanging around a train station, 10 Mormons got off one of the trains, they all had their suits, name tags, and Book of Mormon in hand and they walked right past us. They out numbered us 5 to 1 and they didn't even trying to talk to us. Can't help but feel a little rejected

Last year 2 mormons came to my door and tryed to convert me but before they could get a word out i told them that i didnt beleive in organised religion and they asked what i did beleive in and i told them God and said goodbye and closed the door, my mum, who was watching out the window said they walked up the drive way turned around and gave a nazi salute.

Also the bible specifically states not to change or add to the scriptures, which the mormons have done.

A guy i know who is JW was studying the bible with 2 mormons, 1 from US and 1 from the Netherlands, and the conversation turned to what would they do if US and Holland where at war with each other and both mormons said they would join their countries in war and fight each other, for a group that has Jesus Christs name in it(Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints), they dont follow Christs teachings to well, saying that neither do most who claim to be Christian.

As for are they Satanic? I wonder that myself, if you would call having pentegrams and eyes of horus in your buildings of worship then i would say Yes, same goes for Masons.

hay weedpicker,
good to hear from a fello utah jackmormon that has the same view's of the church as i do,

as long as i can rember i have allways felt ther was something wrong with the church , but couldnt put my finger on it !

as you said most LDS are good people, but if you live here and dont go to church
you are oppressed and looked down apon by them who do!..

have you ever been to the temple ? does paylay,paylay,paylay ring a bell ?
my ex-wife told that to her mother and her mom fliped out! (her mom is LDS all the way.) im not sure what it means but friends have said it means hell satan x 3 ?....ive heard thay say it when thay go into the temple?.

I saw somthing weird at GOOGLE VIDEO go search for --> THE NEW WORLD ORDER DENVER AIRPORT.

THe Gravestone says it all , they are everywhere its becoming creepy.

Originally posted by Layne
I'm sure most of you have seen this page, but for those who haven't... this site has photos of various strange features on the Mormon temple in Salt Lake City. Apparently there are hexagrams, pentagrams, the Ursa Major constellation, etc. built into the temple architecture.

Why is it relevant? That page claims that the items are satanic, and seems to indicate that its connected to Anton LaVey, but we know that they pre-date LaVey and "satanism". One of the items presented is the All Seeing Eye. What is god, if not omni-scient, all seeing? Another item is a five pointed star, suppposedly 'upside down', iow, with a big point pointing down, this is the start of Bethlehem, pointing to Jebus.

Why should these symbols be feared, merely because they are unfamiliar?? Mormonism also has strong connections to masonry, with J. Smith being a freemason, and it seems that some of the symbology has carried over.

BTW in regards to the previous post about photos of the mormon temple, you will find it interesting to note that mormonism is the only supposed christian-based religion that does not display christian images inside their temple. Makes you say hmmmm.....

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Hey would you guys please stop talking about my church.......


I'm only 17 years old, and i'm highly offended by what some of you are doing. Pointless attempts at discrediting my Church....The TRUE Church Left By JESUS CHRIST!! Just wait till the day you die and confront him and hes going to ask why you were making a mockery of HIS church.




Peace.

Originally posted by Lloyd_Bonafide
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BTW in regards to the previous post about photos of the mormon temple, you will find it interesting to note that mormonism is the only supposed christian-based religion that does not display christian images inside their temple. Makes you say hmmmm.....

Don't bother watching that Video people it is absoultely stupid , I would have done something to that stupid camera man if it were not against my morales, oh and that site is full of pornographic crap, I suggest you delete that link.

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Originally posted by Poison
I'm only 17 years old, and i'm highly offended by what some of you are doing.

Then stop reading it. People shouldn't stop discusing an important topic merely because some people find it offensive. There have been a few people here who've been members of the mormon church and told about how members of the church engage in child abuse, of various forms. I'm sorry that you are offended by such poor behaviour, perhaps you should direct your dissapointment towards the people commiting the abuse from within the church??

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by Poison
I'm only 17 years old, and i'm highly offended by what some of you are doing.

Then stop reading it. People shouldn't stop discusing an important topic merely because some people find it offensive. There have been a few people here who've been members of the mormon church and told about how members of the church engage in child abuse, of various forms. I'm sorry that you are offended by such poor behaviour, perhaps you should direct your dissapointment towards the people commiting the abuse from within the church??

Hey bro I take it your catholic, Should I go make a thread about Your Priests' child molestation scandals? Well it would be against my morales to do that, why? Because it's a little something called mutual respect for one another!

Originally posted by deadboi
Once when I was around 17 or 18 a friend and I were hanging around a train station, 10 Mormons got off one of the trains, they all had their suits, name tags, and Book of Mormon in hand and they walked right past us. They out numbered us 5 to 1 and they didn't even trying to talk to us. Can't help but feel a little rejected

Wanna know why? It's called a team up, they were most likely too busy talking to each other and having fun. All you had to do was approach them and talk to them, and I guarantee you that they would have said something.

Originally posted by Poison
Hey bro I take it your catholic, Should I go make a thread about Your Priests' child molestation scandals?

You're welcome to it.
What does mutual respect have to do with people reporting their own experiences of abuse within the church? People should be talking about and condeming the abuse, in both groups, more often.


Also, what do you think jesus would be more upset over, someone talking about abuse that's occuring within one of his organizations, or people trying to stifle that talking?

Poison has a point.

The first link he is talking about is rather offensive. It's a video called "Mormon tackling" where apparently someone is getting their kicks by jumping a couple of Mormons on bikes.

And it does have porn ads

I have never been to the Louvre. I know it is a museum in France, but I have never been there and I have never been inside. I have heard people talk about it, but having never entered myself, and not having researched it from a reputable source, I cannot say anything about it. Those who make claims about LDS temples here are in the same boat. You must not comment on things you are not sure about. Speculation makes you sound ignorant.

For the record, I am a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints, "Mormon", although I prefer the former. I have been in many of the churches temples worldwide. While I am not at liberty to discuss the proceedings of temple ordinances, I will say that everything in the temple focuses on Jesus Christ. Therefore, if you are told something about the church or the temple that does not seem in accordance with the teachings of Christ, I can assure you it is false. Members of the LDS church focus their lives on Jesus Christ, or rather that is to say, members are told to focus their lives on Christ. What members do is entirely up to them.

By no means are members of the LDS church better than anyone else in the world. This means that they are subject to the same vices and atrocities that plauge modern society. To condemn the entire church for something that a member might do, and claim that it is the policy of the church, is wrong. Just as I may not condemn the Jewish nation for crucifying Christ. Look at what is good in a religon's teachings and judge each member individually by what they do. The LDS church condemns all sin. That is, anything that is to be evil. The teachings of the church teach men and women to be good and just to each other. The LDS church does not condone evil in any form. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

Yes, some members of the LDS church do evil things and profess that it is the policy of the church. One cannot read any doctrine published by the LDS church and come to the conclusion that that statement is true. And anyone who is found in such practices is reprimanded by the chuch and remanded to local government authorities if their crime is of such a nature. If the fellow who started this post was treated so harshly, then the place to get it taken care of is not on this forum, but rather the activities of those involved should be reported to local law enforcement. Do not condemn the LDS Church as evil because a member of the church did you wrong.

Hello,

My 1st post and I have a few things to say on the subject.

I was baptised a mormon at age 8 against my will. This is common practice.

I quit going to church at about age 16. I was grounded by my parents and somewhat "verbally abused" for my decision. I am now a non-active 26 yr old alcoholic with financial and emotional problems.

I have lived in Utah county, Utah (Happy Valley) my entire life. It has a very "gated community" type atmosphere.

I don't feel that I've ever been wronged or hurt by a mormon, they're always trustworthy... but they talk about non-members almost like a lower form of mammal.

Ok folks,

This is my first post on this board so I hope I am in the correct thread and what not. As you can tell from the subject of this reply, I no longer practice the religion. This is how I see it. I was born in Salt Lake City, aka the Mormon Mecca. I lived in the miserable state of Utah for quite a few years before we moved closer to the Ocean. My family is very religious and active in the church. I can remember all the stories my mom would tell me about paying tithing. She claims that if you just give %10 percent of what you earn to the Church, God will take care of you. I also remember going to church on Sunday for three hours at a time. Its truly more than a person can bear save a young child. During this time, members of the church would give talks telling about their experience with the church, telling uplifting stories like those you might find in a Chicken Soup for the Soul book. Every first sunday of the month they had Fast and Testimony meeting which was a special church session. Here members are highly encouraged to participate in not eating for 24 hours. In addition, after church they send young boys out to the members houses to collect 'fast offering'. This is supposed to be an offering of money in the amount that you would have spent on the food. So not only do you starve, you give the money that you would have paid for food away.

I always though it was mean and cruel to not allow your children to eat food, especially when they are starving and too young to understand the concepts of religion. Going deeper with this concept, the parents and teacher units of this religion prey heavily on the children teaching them and convincing them of many odd things before the children have a capacity to discern truth from untruth. Now of course I will be attacked by a Mormon for saying that but let me give an example. On a monthly basis during one of the 'Fast and Testimony' meetings, the first hour of church is open to the members of the church to 'Bear their Testimony' - that is to bear witness to the audience their beliefs. It is common for children to be motivated to get up and tell about their feelings, and their parents get up on the stand with them for moral support. Kids 4 and 5 years old have their parents whisper in there ear what they should say. Here is a common excerpt from on of these childrens testimonies [I would like to bear my testimony, I know this church is true, I love my mom and my dad, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen]

At a very young age, the church teaches the children what they want them to think. A 4 year old has no clue what he thinks about the religion, and neither does an 8 year old, the age at which kids are encouraged (highly once gain) to get baptised. As the children age, the teachings become more engrained and in depth, and the strategies are mroe subtle. At age 18 young 'worthy' men are expected to go on a mission. If I could have a dime for every time a church member asked, "So where do you want to go on your mission?" I would be richer than the sultan. Luckily I am more intelligent than the average American drone. I ask myself alot of questions. First off, MY mission? The entire church had assumed i was going one one of these here Missions, and had made the choice for me already apparently. It wasn't if i wanted to go or not, the question was, where did I want to go. This is just one of the subversive tactics I experienced in the church.

In High School, young adults are expected to go to Seminary, which is a religious classroom environment usually before school at 6:00 in the morning when the mind can hardly operate ( I am assuming there are other reasons for this special hour of lecture). I was fortunate enough to get kicked out of this monday through friday church before school session for calling the teacher a set of vulgar names for making a mockery in front of the class.

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