Yes, lissieX3, they could've named the show after the band, The Silver Boulders, a more parent friendly name. But for some ODD reason Nick thought they would use the name The Naked Brothers instead.

In the video that dirty U posted, the kids say they chose the name because they were naked, and brothers when they came up with the idea of a band. Perfectly 9 yr old behavior, and thinking.

I thought it was odd, to say the least, but after hearing the two kids explain it, it made perfect sense.

I think it points to a underlying fear of sex and nakedness that grasps our society. I admit that I myself harbor some of those fears. I'm curious what a European member might have to say about it. I suppose maybe, a European wouldn't immediately attach something sinister and immoral to the title.

I would say the marketing is apparently working too.

The kids were in preschool when they came up with the name, sure that might have been acceptable. But at nine, even they as kids, decided the name needed to be changed for a more grown up image.

At a certain age the innocence of our children start to diminish as they get more and more influence. It's not an underlying fear of nudeness or sexuality, it's the loss of innocence in our youth. Now more then ever before children are "growing" up too quick.

The marketing isn't working like they wanted it to either. As stated earlier by a poster, Bad publicity is not always good publicity.

Originally posted by dirty_underground

Also, they must have added the 13 year old girl later. The preview I saw didn't have any girl what so ever on it. That is not even an issue here anyway. I could care less if it was all girls or guys

But as I quoted, I could care less if the band were made of reptilians, the name would still be inappropriate.

Then why are you making such an issue about it? I was just commenting on how funny i thought it was they had a girl, with their name being naked "boys"

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Kr0n0s]

Didn't mean to sound so rude, kronos.

It just irritates me that parents and people allow media to market this way to our children. By saying the name Naked Brothers doesn't imply images of nudity is absurd. The word NAKED itself means without clothing. Nine year old kids know this, and should not think the idea of nudity is comical. It's only innocent in the youth, what happens when the youth grows up?

Originally posted by dirty_underground
Didn't mean to sound so rude, kronos.

It just irritates me that parents and people allow media to market this way to our children. By saying the name Naked Brothers doesn't imply images of nudity is absurd. The word NAKED itself means without clothing. Nine year old kids know this, and should not think the idea of nudity is comical. It's only innocent in the youth, what happens when the youth grows up?

is ok.. and i agree with what youre saying for the most part, i think nick likes to protray themselves as being very liberal..

Nick should realize liberal and children don't belong

Originally posted by nextguyinline
I'm curious what a European member might have to say about it. I suppose maybe, a European wouldn't immediately attach something sinister and immoral to the title.

Well, we finns tend to be pretty laid back when it comes to nakedness. You know, all that sauna stuff.

I would say that even 5 years ago very few would've even batted an eyelid, but the society is changing and the "pedophile hunt hysteria" is gaining momentum. Not that catching offenders is a bad thing, but not everyone is an offender even if they have naked pics of their kids, or the neighbours' kids.

I wouldn't think of naming a childrens show with a name like this, but I wouldn't judge its content by its name either. I wonder if the people who have contributed to this thread also refuse to watch "The Naked Chef" because of its name? In my opinion the problems in todays TV are largely due to the content of the programs and not their names. Though I must admit that if the band did change its name to something else, their previous name is only being used due to its preceived shock value. Seems that they're succeeding, too.

If The Naked Chef aired on Nick then yes I would have a problem with that too. But it's on the cooking channel geared toward adults.

This is not about Pediphiles, this is about subliminaly putting things in our childrens mind. Yes I agree that content is the main part of our problem but innuendoes have a lot to do with our society. They "casually" insert this into our society ever so lightly so that we won't/can't say anything. Maybe I am thinking too much into this, but upon further research of this program, The oldest kid's name is "Chick Magnet" and the first guest star: Snoop Dogg! This is not the kind of image I want my son to see on a children's network.

Sippin on Gin and Juice...Laid back, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind.

From the man who brought us Doggy Style straight to your children's program!

Are you really that uptight and controlling of a parent that you won't even let them see the WORD "Naked"?

Your kids likely don't care. They already know the "M" word, "Naked" is nothing to them. By labelling stuff as inappropriate and telling them that they can't watch it, you'll just peak their interest and make them want to do it more because it's 'bad'.

I think kids should grow up watching The Simpsons from an early age, and anyone over 12 should be able to watch South Park.

As for the Barenaked Ladies, sure they came out, but my nine year old son was not listening to it.

Barenaked Ladies are the most PC, child-appropriate band out there besides Raffi. Every time I see a BNL concert or special, there are always 8 year olds in the front row. You sir, are a joke.

PS: The average age for girls to become sexually active is currently 11.

Gah... I can't even think of much more to say about this, it's kind of baffling. It's like parents labelling an amazing show like Spongebob as "gay" just because he is so happy.

You can keep your kids in your little bubble all you want, but they aren't going to be very well rounded. They're going to get out into the 'real world' one day, and they will be very socially awkward when they do.

Instead of gradually experiencing these things under your supervision, they're going to go nuts when they get out of your dictatorish rule over their minds. It's usually the kids raised like yours that end up to be the sex-crazed heavy drug users, or develop eating disorders, to rebel against how you stripped them of their childhood. OH NO, I SAID STRIPPED :O.

Instead of treating your kid as some mentally fragile pet, why don't you talk to them about it and treat them as an equal, instead of looking down on them. Then you can reasonably discuss what things in the show you think are inappropriate and tell them why "normal" people don't engage in that kind of behaviour, then let them decide if they want to keep watching it or not.

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Yarcofin]

Originally posted by Yarcofin

You can keep your kids in your little bubble all you want, but they aren't going to be very well rounded. They're going to get out into the 'real world' one day, and they will be very socially awkward when they do.

This is the most sane post in this thread so far and everyone should take heed to it. Whatever it is about Americans that make them freak out on the smallest most trivial things is hilarious to Europeans. Comon it's Naked Brothers, it's just a name. What's in a name? The worst thing you can do is smother your kids in with banning any word which you think is morally incorrect. I think it is your Church which is at most to blame. This is just ridiculous.

sip

I have had a thought over much thinking from my last post about this name thing.

It is said they have changed their name to the silver boulders from the naked brothers to make the name more grown up etc. This to me explains nicks and the bands mind frame, Like a previous poster said when a kid he wrote naked lady on the floor because he thought it was funny and rude, where as we all know as adults its not the rudest thig in the world.

I too remember writing things like naked as a child because I thought it was funny, So when this band decided to change their name to make it more grown up this suggests to me that its the opposite of what everyone is saying about calling a show naked brothers.

Posters have been saying that it is not right selling something to children with naked in the title as it will make them more curious, sexually active etc quicker, where as if this was the case wouldn't they have changed there name from the silver boulders to the naked brothers if naked was such a bad adult thing?

Therefore to me nick is calling this show the naked brothers yes in order to appeal to kids bacuase kids see nakedness as funny and nothing else, if nakedness is not funny to children then why on quite frequent occasion do you see cartoon characters bums etc.

In my opinion I think i've hit the nail on the head.
I also apologise for my writing sometimes it is a little difficult to understand so if you need anything explaining plese let me know.

Alan

Ahh... the word naked. Horrible isn't it. Never mind that the show has great redeeming qualities like a family working together, brothers cooperating, learning together, intergenerational group support, musical creativity, a happy family bond. No, that darn word Naked. It is Blasphemous. Why God never intended there to be nakedness. Adam and Eve were born in full jumpsuits and it wasn't until they ate the forbidden fruit of Nickelodeon that they realized that the Natural state which God had created man was evil. God created man with no Television, thus all TV is bad and any reference to nakedness is tantamount to murder. Ay Carumba!

Such reactionary and judgmental behavior is generally found among sexually frustrated prudes. It is very important to teach your children to be objective, and not to simply ban a word because you have issues. In much of the world the word naked would arouse no such commotion. I have lived with natives who wore with little more than loincloths and their children all grew up to be well adjusted adults with no sexual hang-ups. As Adults your fear of nakedness will create an unhealthy environment. Children do not think of Porn when you say the word naked, that association comes from YOU. Children giggle when you say naked and it is your reaction that makes it into something lewd. You are letting your fears and discomfort with the word Naked, interfere with your child's natural and healthy childhood.

Try actually watching television WITH your children and stop using it as a baby-sitter. Let your children have a happy childhood without impressing on them your insecurities. The word Naked is not bad, but in your mind you have made it so. That's sad.

At least they didn't name it Sailor's Moon, or something.

Seriously though, I do agree that the pervasive sexual underpinning of all television is offensive in that when watching TV with my children, I found myself often pointing out unhealthy standards that drove a certain commercial or plot line.

Children are too young to be yoked with the guilt/shame/lust - that fuels the tension of sexual marketing.

Even the Japanese anime cartoons exploit a male eros that is too much of an imposition for a young mind.

Originally posted by IeatALIENS
Yet, if they are looked at, or somebody mistakes one for being over 18 years old, they are sick, perverted. Twisted.

Good post, contains a lot of truth.

I hate prudes and people who talk about morality as if it sex is somehow opposed to morality.

In order to be healthy, you need to have a good relationship with your sex organs. This means you need to know how to work them, manipulate them and control them. Children are kept from knowing this officially, but they always learn on their own. There's always some little kid who gets caught at a young age playing with themselves and then gets beat by some idiot parent.

I cannot express how much I disagree with the prudes I read here sometimes. Let's get one thing straight folks: If your world gets affected by the word "naked", you need help. Serious professional help.


Anyway I liked your post because it points out the obvious: Young people are sexual creatures (as all humans) but we live in a world where this truth is flipped on its head and people are made to look like criminals for normal human behavior. In connection with this, there is no support for the girl child who has a baby in her belly, so again, the world is designed for a pre-destined nuerosis and enslavement of that girl child. Things like Amber Alert or Megan's Law are fine, but people really don't want to find missing kids and society is so hypocritical in this regard. Statutory rape laws are also fine and well, but they never prevent girls from getting pregnant.

The truth is this: A child who owns and understands their own sexuality (and can control their conceptive potential once they are old enough to have babies) is the most dangerous element in society. Frustration, sexual ignorance and internal concflict are three essential mental keystones which cannot be dislodged in our society lest the whole thing change.

Sexual liberation and more family nudity on the beaches would wreck America for the prudes. They wouldn't be missed.


[edit on 27-1-2007 by smallpeeps]

I have so much more to say about this but I'm short on time at the moment. I'm coming up with my new show called B**CH PLEASE for Disney. It's about cute adorable puppies at the pound in which a family go to adopt. They have a good strong bond and it's just a great well rounded program for all kids to watch. It teaches compassion and mercy upon creatures.

Child: Mommy I want to watch B**CH PLEASE

Oh, you think the word B**ch is bad, it's just a female dog in heat. It's your overbearing society that has made this word so bad that I must show censorship to avoid offending the masses.

Originally posted by dirty_underground
Didn't mean to sound so rude, kronos.

Bah! You weren't rude! You were honest!

Anyway, I understand the subtle outrage I am hearing from some members, over the subtle outrage of the people that have become agitated about the Naked Brothers Band.

You see, some of us have been around long enough to have been able to watches changes as they occur.

Take me for example! I have watched, and watched. after seeing enough, you get an idea for where things are headed.

Let's ignore my last post for just a moment. Let me take a different route:

It is a FACT that there is some concern over the values of kids today, and what that will mean to our world 10 years from now.

A big part of this worry, is the "Rock Star" mentality that exists, and how young people tend to see money, sex, music, partying, and dancing as a fine way to live your life. They idolize these things. A lot of that is because of the MTV generation, music, movies and tv that has been programmed into them over the last 10or 15 years.

Now, here comes another generation. The Nick generation. LITTLE kids. Mere babies exposed to Nick and Disney, and watch a host of children who are rock stars, pop stars, in bands, etc.

Any of you that actually spend time with your kids, (as I do), and watch tv with them, (as I do), cannot escape the fact that, right at this moment, these 2 channels alone, are taking children, turning them into, marketing , advertising and flaunting them to other children, as "Rock Stars".

As a matter of fact, they also, playfully, show our children how they too can become Rock Stars. Treating it as a "norm".

And "That", my friends, is what we are worried about. Personally, I don't want ANYBODY grooming my child for a future of ANY kind, teaching my children "Rock Star" values, telling my child what a "Normal Life" looks like and showing my little girl how it is ok for other little girls can dress in a sexy way, flaunt their sexuality, etc.

THAT is what is frightening.

The band name 'naked brothers' came about, according to the short interviews with Alex and Nat on Nick, very innocently.

After bathing one night, their mother (I believe, or sister... not sure) ask them, 'You all play instruments so what's the name of your band?'

The two boys, as young boys would... I have 4 of them, giggled out Naked Brothers'!. Any mama's here with boys can tell you that is not by any stretch a shocking response from a little boy. They are silly! Not realizing how marketable they actually were, they never gave the name much thought at all.

It was nothing more than an impulsive, childhood, silly little boy thought. As they started becoming popular, even they had 'out grown' that and knew that needed to change.

Boys and naked in the same sentence makes trash brains go to bad places. To the more normal person, they see it for what it is. No conspiracy... these kids have got it. They dont 'need' a word to sell them. They sell themselves.

Very talented family. I wish them all the best naked or clothed... Go 'get yours' boys! And hey, as Alex says, 'If this whole rock star thing doesnt work out I can still be a scientist. I can tell you how people go poo.'

Edited to tell the OP:

I hope your child isnt a little girl and if she is... dont buy her a Barbie! You are NOT going to believe this but both Barbie and Ken get nAkEd.
Ah Oh! Your child already owns such a doll, all dolls are nAkEd so the brand name doesnt matter.

Me being you, I would look within to weed out my hypocrisy. You have a child. Male or female, that child has a doll. That doll can be made to be nAkEd. Feeling me?

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Little One]

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Little One]

Originally posted by dirty_underground
I just learned of a new program on Nickelodeon called The Naked Brothers. Now this program doesn't actually contain nakedness but the name alone suggests something for the imagination. As a parent this is the very thing that I am trying to prevent my children from. We already live in a very sexed up nation. Sex is used to sell everything, now it seems that it is even being used to sell to our children. The media is programming these children. How can we as parents allow this to happen? I am furious at how this nation is unfolding.

Did I forget to mention the name of the band isn't even The Naked Brothers anymore. They changed their name to The Silver Boulders for a classier image. Nickelodeon must've felt that The Naked Brothers would gain more publicity as they promote them for that title.

[edit on 26-1-2007 by dirty_underground]

i understand your parental concern but i believe i speak for all children when i say its just a band not a sinister band they are just kids thats like being mad at led zeppelin because of what happened to the hindenburg they're songs are quite clean as i've heard a few and they are pretty good the only thing about them that is anywhere near what your implying is the song rosalina

Originally posted by Little One

Edited to tell the OP:

I hope your child isnt a little girl and if she is... dont buy her a Barbie! You are NOT going to believe this but both Barbie and Ken get nAkEd.
Ah Oh! Your child already owns such a doll, all dolls are nAkEd so the brand name doesnt matter.

Me being you, I would look within to weed out my hypocrisy. You have a child. Male or female, that child has a doll. That doll can be made to be nAkEd. Feeling me?

You are missing the point. And, if you don't understand the perspective of another person, you have no business targeting that perspective.

Obviously, "Naked" is not the point here. Also, it should be obvious that nobody thinks there is any nudity on the show, or that it is promoting nudity.

The point is, it is not that difficult to steer completely away from anything sexual, shallow, jaded or "racy". It isn't that difficult. And, the name of the band, the name of the show, the lifestyle they promote, the culture they promote, have no business , or need to be involved in a show for young children. At this age, easily-influenced children should not be overloaded by these images and ideas. And, the whole "naked" thing is just one more rock on the already building, enormous pile of rocks that is there for our kids to climb.

Personally, I want my kid to remain innocent as long as possible.