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17 year old gets 10 years for having sex with 15 year old

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posted on Jan, 27 2007 @ 04:38 AM
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Yea, i saw this article and it just made me sick, can Bush just pardon him and get him out, if he can the people of the united states should petiion the presidnet.




posted on Jan, 27 2007 @ 12:17 PM
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You're welcome.


It is my understanding that the President can only pardon in federal cases. The governor of Georgia would have to be the one to issue the pardon in this case.



posted on Jan, 28 2007 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt

He's 20 now. Just two years into a 10-year sentence without possibility of parole, he peers through the thick glass and bars,
trying to catch a glimpse of freedom. Outside, guard towers and rolls of coiled barbed wire remind him of who he is.



Once, he was the homecoming king at Douglas County High.
Now he's Georgia inmate No. 1187055, convicted of aggravated child molestation.


ESPN link

The law that put this young man in jail was changed, right after his conviction.
Even the girl admitted that she initiated the act.

I must say that both of them made a bad decision that night.

But 10 years? no Parole?
This really bugs me.

I'm interested in your input on this.

Wtf, how can he get charged with child molestation when he himself was a minor?



posted on Jan, 28 2007 @ 07:20 PM
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That's nothing, there have been incidents where kids have been charged for "playing doctor" and ended up on sex offender lists.

Technically I believe anyone who has sex with someone under the age of consent is treated as a sex offender, regardless of whether they're under the age of consent themselves.



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by xmotex
Technically I believe anyone who has sex with someone under the age of consent is treated as a sex offender, regardless of whether they're under the age of consent themselves.


There would have to be exceptions. Would two 15 year olds having sex with each other cause them to be considered "sex offenders"? In Georgia, the earliest age at which two people can marry is 16, with parental permission. This does mean that there have been 18+ year olds marrying 16 year olds here in Georgia. I'm not sure if they could be punished for having sex with a minor or not.



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 02:09 AM
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Ha!

Everybody is quite surprised! So funny.

Let's play a game! Let's take the sentence below, and read it before all the numbered sentences after it. Yay!
Begin.

- Did everybody REALLY believe that Megan's Law was being used...

1. By Law Makers and Law Enforcement who were only trying to be Just?
2. With a well thought-out plan to safeguard the public from misuse of this law?
3. ONLY against people who were 100%, without a doubt, guilty of crimes worthy of such horrific punishments?!
4. But, there was no way that innocent people, or people guilty of crimes that do not fit the punishment, were finding themselves destroyed, along with their families by it. (sorry, that was a long one)

People! The numbers are already in. The Megan's Law route does not work. All it has done, is make sure none of these people ever recover, innocent people are also crushed, and all the people associated with the sex offender are destroyed just as much as the offender.

It is just a moneymaker, and employment insurance policy for Law Makers.
Hell, these sites, and state politicians are now listing the number of web hits the sites are getting, as if it was some sort of entertainment site.

As I have said in other topics:

Do the research. There are a lot of horrible things happening out there, and an awful lot of quiet people watching.

This law is paving the way for all kinds of nice laws! Like the one that shows your personal medical information online, or the one that makes you use a special license plate if you have had a DUI, or the really cool one that throws you on a website that shows everybody your credit history at a glance.

These are not ideas for tools that would be used by professionals. These would be for the public, just like Megan's Law.

Enjoy!



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 03:02 AM
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How would people feel about this if it had been a 17 year old male having sex with a fifteen year old boy?
Would you go to work on a train or a bus driven by a fifteen year old, after all many of them are perfectly capable mentally and physically of driving. It's about establishing and enforcing an agreed legal age limit for partaking in potentially risky actions.


I agree ten years and being put on an offenders register is ridiculously harsh, but what do you want to do, scrap the law altogether, is it ok for fifteen year old to be having sex or not, I'm getting the impression many think it is.


I think not. Of course minors will try and often succeed in having sex, minors try to do a lot of stupid, risky things, should society step back and let it carry on or try to enforce laws that are essentially for their own good, parental responsibility is a factor but it's not fool proof, wayward kids come from good families too, you can't always blame the family. And if the family do fail, for whatever reason, that's where the law should come in as back up.

If it's really ok to have sex with fifteen year olds, then it's really ok to have it with fourteen, thirteen and twelve year olds too. The age of consent is there for a reason, it's societies way of saying beyond this line, these type of actions are unnacceptable.



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 04:11 AM
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Well all things said and done, the course of law was followed perhaps too close to the letter with ALL the I’s dotted and T’s crossed. However, I still believe that the sentence was way too harsh for what actually went down. I have to say I agree with a previous comment that it should have been community service. The law is the law – ok ok! But, even though the law has subsequently changed the poor dude’s life is now well and truly f#cked! I ALSO have to say that I believe this is a racially aggravated sentence. Because he is black he has to suffer the full blow of what the law is able to throw at him. Racism at it’s “best”. I am amazed though to note how the US and other countries pointed fingures at South Africa for Apartheid (because it had a name) and yet, in their own back yard, it is going full force – racisim is well and truly alive in the US and not just because of this case but in general! Why is this so? Because it has no name it is ignored?!



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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Nobody has said that it is ok for the boy to have had sex with a 15 year old.

The point is, the Megan's Law setup does NOT work. It is too broad and harsh.

It is the job of the Law Makers to work on laws too address situations like this. Not just dump all crimes, related by sex, into one big funnel, and destroy EVERYBODY in it!

It is also a terrible idea to have private citizens monitoring each other. It will end up in "banishment" every time, just as it has in the past, when tried in other places, with other laws.

Again, nobody is stating that this crime, or any of the dozens of other crimes supposedly addressed by Megan's Law are NOT crimes.

But, I AM stating that they cannot all be lumped together, just to create an easy political platform, a quick way to bring money to a new Law Enforcement genre or slap a temporary bandage on the wounds of outraged US Voters!

The the guys to work, change the laws, create new, just laws that work.

Mark my words, in the near future, this trend will effect all of us, destroy somebody we know, hurt our children in ways equal to those of any Child Predator and tear families apart. And, not all of the people effected will be deserving of the agony coming their way.

How about this?...
You were a teenager, and your dad gets arrested for having Child Porn on a work computer. He states that he didn't do it, but, although there is evidence supporting his statement, the outrage of the public has ensured that he gets thrown into the "Megan's Law Machine". The family is crushed, and the teenager will definitely go through horrors that equal any that have been perpetrated upon a victim of sex crimes.

I can go on, but I think you get my idea.

The Punishment MUST fit the crime.
And, the more serious the crime, the harsher the punishment, the more stringent the investigation and trial process must be!

We have to be SURE these people are guilty. And, then, the punishment must fit the crime. Because, make no mistake, Megan's Law is just a "click" less severe than a death penalty. For some people that have found themselves on the list, it has become a Death Penalty.



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 11:06 AM
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How would people feel about this if it had been a 17 year old male having sex with a fifteen year old boy?


Well personally, I wouldn't see any difference at all.
I don't see how gender plays into it, really.

Although I do find this double standard amusing:

A teenager sleeps with a male in his 30's - the reaction is that the guy is a perv and should be locked up and fed to rabid wolverines.

A teenager sleeps with a female in her 30's - the kid is treated like a super stud and everybody cracks jokes about how she's the "Best Teacher Ever!"



posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 01:01 PM
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IeatAliens,

I agree, there is some wierd dichtomy that goes on with regards to underage sex and peadophilia. A hysterical reaction from society at the merest circumstantial hint that some one may be involved, or knew someone who was involved, or was a friend of a friend of someone who was involved etc, etc, yet this almost jock like, chest thumping tacit approval of having sex with underage minors because the 'turfs on the playing field'.



posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 04:11 PM
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In other news, here's another vicious sex predator that must be brought to justice, and probably executed posthaste to protect impressionable young children.

Boiling in oil is too good for her, I say...



posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
He broke the law and comited statutory rape on a minor. He belongs in jail. It doesn't matter that he was young when it happened.

In Pennsylvania, the age of consent is 14. Does this mean that it'd be acceptable for an 17 year old to have sex with a 13 year old?

These kinds of laws need to have an arbitrary age cut off, and it has to be stuck to, otherwise, there's no point to the law.


Let me tell you what it means. this is backward. this is worse than stone age. are you proud such a system functions in your union?

sick. sad. words there are not.

just LOCK EVERYONE UP, why don't you?

thank god i don't live in the united states any more.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 09:44 AM
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Things are bad here, and getting worse. The scariest thing is that nobody seems to be fighting it anymore.

We take so many things as "fact", but do nothing about it.

We know:

1. Global Warming is wreaking havoc.

2. Our population is out of control.

3. Our planet is ruled and guided by a minuscule number of individuals, as alien to us as any visitor from space.

4. Our governments play with the lives of their citizens as if we were livestock.

5. The changes in our legal system, here in the states, is the first stage of a process that will have complete control of all our lives. We are becoming "cattle". These types of actions, historically, start as a result to public outrage over certain crimes or conditions. Ripe for the picking.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 10:33 PM
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I just wanted to remind people that Genarlow Wilson is still in prison.
There is quite a bit of support pouring in. TV, internet, and Print media, are still covering this.

This wikipedia entry has quite of bit of the story, as well as other links, where you can show support for him.
Genarlow Wilson



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt
I just wanted to remind people that Genarlow Wilson is still in prison.
There is quite a bit of support pouring in. TV, internet, and Print media, are still covering this.

This wikipedia entry has quite of bit of the story, as well as other links, where you can show support for him.
Genarlow Wilson


You are right.
The laws need to be changed. There are people all over the country like this.

Severely Punish the Molesters and Rapists and Makers of Child Porn,
be firm and strong and thorough.

Get treatment to anybody else that has been effected or exposed to them, be fair and just and compassionate.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 02:32 AM
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I think a lot of people are missing the point.

Regardless of whether or not it should be legal for these two to engage in this activity is irrelevant. If it is illegal, it's illegal. Which, yes, is stupid.

But, the point is, this crime is NOT the type of crime that should pack this type of punishment.

As I have stated before, these laws were meant to cover Rapists, Child Molesters and Child Porn makers/distributors.

Lower level crimes and offenses constitute lower level punishments. To take EVERYBODY involved in a crime that has the word "sex" written anywhere in the wording of it, is lazy, cruel, illogical and dangerous.

God! These lawmakers and politicians are bragging about their stats and Megan's Law website hits as if it were all some media event. They are doing everything they can to justify the money that has gone into all the new departments, software, hardware, etc.

So, right now, instead of working hard to go after the big fish, they are going after the people at the bottom of the pyramid, and then making them out to be monsters in court!

The deal is, we need more funnels!


MBF

posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 10:47 PM
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New news on this story.

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posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by MBF
New news on this story.

LINK

Thats good news,
I must say I am SHOCKED at some of the replies here, people actually think a 17 year old guy should be punished for being with a 15 year old girl? 15-16-17 what the hell is the difference. They both wanted it, they both did it, its up to their parents if they want to punish them or praise them, the goverment has no right to take over their lifes like that.

", well its agasint the rules, so you know he should go prison"
just because the rules say so it doesnt mean its right.

Anyway dont girls have puperty and mature quicker than boys? hmmm.

[edit on 11-6-2007 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Jun, 12 2007 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt
Yeah, to me this is SO different, than some 40 year old perv, ovepowering
a young girl..THAT demands prison time.

This is high school kids..doing something stupid. A whole other story.


Exactly just high school kids. I feal for this kid, he is losing the best years of his life. Yet we have repeat rapists who get lesser sentances, man this is just another example of how "bleeped" up our society is.



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