Original Anonymous Post By: anon_91615
This anonymous post is in response to ATS thread: America's Nazi Party
Im from Germany and I want to know how well Nazis ideas are supported in the U.S.A.?
And I also want to know why some people on this disussion board think that facism in not so bad as nazism?
Furthermore I want to know how strong the racism in the U.S is, how strong are black people discriminated against?
PS: please correct my english if there are some mistakes
Thanks for your post. I noticed it in the anonymous section and thought I would move it here. Tell us your username if you didn't intend for this
to be anonymous.
You mentioned three things so I'll comment on them one at a time.
1: how well Nazis ideas are supported in the U.S.A.?
I would say very well, in the secret pinnacles of where America is controlled. Without the mass killing, national socialism is not so different from
the mindless patriotism which is encouraged by our leaders. Also have we smuggled nazis into the US after WW2 through Operation Paperclip, but the
thinking was if we don't take these guys, somebody else will take them. IMO, espionage is a lot like managing a football team. When the freeagents
are available, you don't ask them their ideaology, you just get them on your team. ...Anyway in my city although the demographic is mostly white,
and yes people do covertly hold racist/bigoted attitudes, there is a pervasive current of anti-racist thinking, communication and interaction between
people. ...Also, the demographic where I live is about 70% Christian and that carries a lot of weight in America, in that it does affect a change of
heart toward other races and so this is observed by myself in interaction with other Americans daily. ...If you are German, you may be familiar with
your country's judicial cases against certain religious cults. In a way, racism is like these closed cult groups because like any closed group of
people, racists/bigots are able to communicate with one another in a sort of code. ...For example, if I am white and there is a black person in the
room, and then this man leaves the room, I am able to communicate my bigoted beliefs to the other white people in the room, without much risk to
What I am saying is that if I make a racist comment after a black man leaves the room, I am not likely to face reprisal from other white
people in the room. They may give me a hard look or cluck their breath but they wouldn't confront me as a racist due to the prevailing tolerance of
racist views. Most Americans don't agree with what the racist person is exclaiming, but they understand how other Americans may hold archaic beliefs
and they will not speak up. I imagine other more cosmopolitan US cities will not allow this sort of behavior, but my city cannot be said to be
unusual. ...BTW I am no racist and when I have observed the aformentioned behavior, I have said out loud "Not everybody thinks like you do." In
such situations, I would get nods from others within earshot. ...In a way it's like bigotry/racism thrives in secret.
2: And I also want to know why some people on this disussion board think that facism in not so bad as nazism?
They are the same in my opinion. It's like arguing the difference between beer and ale. The effect is the same. The taste may vary.
3: Furthermore I want to know how strong the racism in the U.S is, how strong are black people discriminated against?
Racism is defined as an overinterest in one's race. Bigotry is when you think your race is superior to another's. Generally they are used
interchangeably and so I would say that yes, both racism and bigotry are held as beliefs widely in the US. This means both whites and blacks are over
concerned about their race, and also do discriminate based on race. Again, as I said above, this is no different than any group which despises or
excludes another group. If republicans get extreme enough to assasinate a democrat, isn't it a sort of red on blue killing? Kinda like the American
gangs, the bloods and the crips, you know? Anyway, yes, colors are used to manipulate every nation. When I say the words, black-red-white, might a
german person conjure an image of the nazi swastika? If I say the words, red-white-blue, might an american conjure an image of the US flag? If I say
the words, black-white, might a person conjure images of black american leaders like Malcom X, Dr. MLK Jr. and also of white Americans who stood for
equality like Abraham Lincoln and JFK? Certainly even just the context of mentioning colors can conjure images in the mind. But isn't it funny that
we can all still breed with one another? Heck even the bird has numerous version of itself, hawks, ducks, owls, ostritches... It seems like man and
woman are unique upon Earth and that the color spectrum of skin is a game which Creator plays upon us. Just my .02 and thanks for your questions.