Originally posted by Regenmacher
That report should raise a lot of eyebrows and hopefully put to rest all these irresponsible ideas that sabotage our progress towards reducing the risks of climate change.

Regenmacher, I think the word "sabotage" is exactly right, good choice of words.
I U2U'd you but didn't spell your name right, let me know if you don't have a message from me.

Loam, I always love your avatars, but this one is by far and away, absolutely incredible. Thanks for starting a thread about it, I hope this report changes some minds. It also states that the good news is that the skeptics are becoming fewer and fewer.
Time is running out. Already the largest extinction that we've ever known about is underway. Soon there won't be any more polar bears or penguins, they are rapidly dying out. Such utter disregard for something as sacred as Life and our beautiful home, Mother Earth.
There is a quote I came across recently: "If trees could scream, no one would sleep at night."

even if this report conclusively shows that major countries (well, humans in general) are responsible for global warming, how will the un force countries to do anything about it

the un is a huge bureaucracy that is all about paperwork, and that's it

it cannot force peoples to do anything about the problem, although it can give great advice...




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Originally posted by they see ALL
even if this report conclusively shows that major countries (well, humans in general) are responsible for global warming, how will the un force countries to do anything about it

the un is a huge bureaucracy that is all about paperwork and that's it

it cannot force peoples to anything about the problem, although it can give great advice...

This is the UN's big chance to impose a global tax. Hello NWO.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
This is the UN's big chance to impose a global tax. Hello NWO.

and how will that help the problem of global warming

Originally posted by they see ALL

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
This is the UN's big chance to impose a global tax. Hello NWO.

and how will that help the problem of global warming

I think your mistake is assuming the UN cares about global warming or that global warming indeed exists. If it doesnt exist the UN wouldnt help disprove it. Theres no way to profit if it doesnt exist. If it does exist no taxation would help anything. Most people dont know that. They think the taxes they pay on each gallon of gas or the registration they pay is going to fund environmantal causes. Its just going into the governments pockets.

Since its creation the UN has wanted a way to levy a global tax and now that that day is right over the horizon theyre pushing and pushing and pushing to make sure theres no doubt it happening and to make sure the public is terrified of the consequences so that every citizen will essentially ask the UN to take their money in the name of various environmental causes.

Thats what the Kyoto Accord ia all about. Once the UN has global taxation in its pocket the next step is global legislation. Viola! Global government.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Thats what the Kyoto Accord ia all about. Once the UN has global taxation in its pocket the next step is global legislation. Viola! Global government.

your quite the conspiracy theorist

but, i will stick to the belief that global warming does exists and that the un does want to help

This is a comment I made in another thread about a recent extremely large solar flare, that luckily, was not directed at Earth.

I'm very glad to see people talking about this event and taking it seriously. As I've stated in numerous posts in the Fragile Earth Forum....Too many people worry themselves into near hysteria over global warming, but seem completely disinterested in solar activity, planetary impact events, extra-solar activity (gamma ray burst's and super novae), or extreme seismic or volcanic activity. These phenomena are either poorly understood, very fast acting, and/or unpredictable.

Global warming is a natural process as evidenced by the geologic record showing numerous warming and cooling cycles of the planet. It's very slow acting, and thus predictable and capable of being addressed by adaptation.

To all those folks who seem to thrive on worrying about doomsday...I recommend focusing on the sun, comets, nearby stars, or the earths core, mantle, and tectonic plates.

Thisguyrighthere is right, the UNs involvement in this issue is the same as every other large organizations involvement.....and that is: To use the issue of GW as a leverage device to control geo-political power and economic strength on a large scale.

OK , I am now prepared for the onslaught of viscious attack posts accusing me of being everything from a US govt. disinformation agent to just simply an ignorant pathetic toad.

Before you gravitate toward to latter, Just think about how many times this planet has warmed and cooled before humans ever existed.

Originally posted by they see ALL

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Thats what the Kyoto Accord ia all about. Once the UN has global taxation in its pocket the next step is global legislation. Viola! Global government.

your quite the conspiracy theorist

but, i will stick to the belief that global warming does exists and that the un does want to help

Yeah, I know it sounds pretty crazy but trust me I didnt just wake up one day believeing this. Nor do I even want to believe this. I was mad America didnt sign on with the Kyoto Accord, until I read through it. Then I was terrified than any nation thought it was a good idea. Then I did some math. Most, if not all, of the nations that signed onto it would get paid to change absolutely nothing about their emissions. Paid by the US and other industialized countries but not Russia or China. They would profit.

Then theres all the scandal with Anan and the food for oil thing and the shady support of Hezbollah and the way it simply ignores genocide. Not to mention the rape-happy troops.

It freaks me out much more than the prospect the Earth might have gained .8 degrees of heat in a 100 year period during its 120,000,000 years of existance.

But, to each his own I suppose. Good luck to you and your cause.

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Originally posted by soficrowConsumers voted with their dollars last year: Ford Motor, famous for pushing gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs, reported its biggest loss in its 103-year history - a $12.7 billion loss for 2006. The astounding figure represents a loss of $4,700 on every vehicle sold. Apparently, people recognize that climate change is real and greenhouse gases impact the environment. Ford's survival strategy focuses on marketing a "a stronger lineup of smaller vehicles that offer better gasoline mileage."

Sofi - I think the cost of gasoline (and labor) had way more to do with this than environmental concerns. Also, most people who drive those "gas guzzling trucks" need them for thier livelihood. I'll agree with you however on the over abundance of the 3-ton grocery getters.

Originally posted by forestlady
Time is running out. Already the largest extinction that we've ever known about is underway.

Show proof please...also don't forget that 99.9999% of ALL species that EVER existed on earth are now extinct.

Soon there won't be any more polar bears or penguins, they are rapidly dying out.

Alarmist panic. Please present scientific, or even anecdotal evidence that polars and penquins are rapidly dying out and that there will "soon" be no more.

Thanks for clearing that all up for me.
I sure am gonna miss all those cute little buggers

I must really get better at using "the internets"

I kind of feel this isn't going to be very shocking