Are our dreams a gateway to another dimension?, page 4
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 04:02 AM by Malfeitor
Heres the rub.
What we know is that we exist definitely within three dimensions which are up/down, left/right, and forward/backward. Put more appropriately, we exist physically on an X, Y, and Z scale.
Now I'm going to jump ahead, but in a minute this will make some semblance of sense. Let us suppose that past, present, and future are all illusions. Everything which has existed in the past exists now, but on a different time frame. Every person is still alive and already dead. If you can follow this train of logic, this would imply that we are simply moving through time as though viewing a slideshow. Now, if certain theories regarding dimensions are correct, and the fourth dimension is in fact time, it is only logical to assume that aging, and thus the passing of time, is fourth-dimensional movement. This is about as far as I'm willing to describe my theory on time, which is based on an admittedly abstract chain of logic.
Now, moving forward, let us examine human history and nature. Each society is the greatest, each leader is the best, humanity rules, aliens must find us interesting, and we obviously have the greatest potential of any being on earth. What does this imply? Egotism inherent, nothing less. It is the nature of a human being to crave special treatment, and it is the nature of the human race to attempt to control any and all radical elements. Put simply, people hate being inferior to anything, even the idea of gods. Every religion and society on the planet does little more than preach the virtues and potential of the human life form.
So what are dreams? This is one of those radical elements which is continually overlooked, but I believe there is a reason for this. All dream interpretation and spirtuality aside, I believe that dreams are a separate reality of which the entire human race is part. Though I've no idea how either reality can affect the other (or if it is even possible), the abundance of dreams and the repeated suggestion of power through dreams, not to mention precognative possibilities through dreaming, suggest that there is more to the dream state than simply a weary brain settling into rest. While medical science would argue that various chemical processes within the brain influence dreams, the similarities between the REM cycle of sleep and one's waking mind cannot be idly dismissed; while dreaming, nearly all humans are naturally paralyzed so that their bodies will not act in accordance to their dreams. Clearly, the mind is quite responsive and active during this time.
But where to begin quantifying the elements of dreams? There are no substances to measure, few similar qualities from person to person, and no reliable timeline between the world of the waking and the world of dreams. Yet there is nothing to suggest that dreams are any less real than "reality" save one fact, which is the point of this post. The difference is continuity and stability. Dreams are erratic, unpredictable, and often dangerous; reality can be measured and predicted from day to day, and the laws of physics apply.
To come to my point, I believe, given the evidence shown, that there is no reason to dismiss dreams any more readily than one should dismiss reality. Humanity's inherent thirst for control and comfort would lead us to believe that dreams cannot harm or help us, that reality is the only constant in life. It comes from a fear of being completely beyond controlling one's situation. And theres the rub: we dismiss our dreams from nothing less than fear.


reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 02:08 PM by Odessy
reply to post by Kingalbrect79



ABSOLUTELY!
I just wrote this thread last night: Astral Projection and Higher Conciousness Through the use of Convensional / Non-Convensional Methods
Link

I urge you ALL to visit it.
Not only are our dreams gateways, but you can eventually awaken your consciousness through the use of Dream Yoga. Even the 2nd Dalai Lama believed and practiced dream yoga.

Nice to know people are starting to wake up.
I think its a natural force attracting humans to this world of knowledge, which is what I always expected the "real" religion would do, have a natural attraction to humans.


reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 12:43 PM by cameron49
I know this particular forum has been inactive for some time. However, I felt it necessary to reach out and get a few opinions and this is the exact topic for such a post.

Since my last girlfriend left me in October of 08' I have been having powerful dreams involving her almost every night. At first I thought I was just having trouble coping with the loss. It's now been close to a year since the break up and these still continue. Now, to start with the oddities of this situation.

It began with vivid dreams of her in tremendous mental agony over the whole situation. As I would walk into her room the strength of her distress would infect me and I would feel unable to break away. The first oddity I noticed was the slight difference in the shape of her room, very slight. It appeared to be a hair smaller. I would attempt to console her, but it was as if I was a ghost unable to fully make contact. Like I could see this world but couldn't cross into it.

Three weeks of this re-occurring dream and I decided to go see her (The Event). The situation unfolded verbatim. A little un-nerving was the feeling of something different in the room, almost like someone watching or making a record of this moment coming to pass. Seeing this vivid dream for weeks was the catalyst to get me there. Where I hypothesize I may have in inadvertently changed the path of my dimension to somewhere it shouldn't be.

I didn't give it to much thought until I started having even more powerful dreams linking back to the original dimension path that I had affected by making the dream come to pass. Slight oddities in the surroundings of the dreams appeared to be happening in my woken state (ws) as opposed to my dream state (ds), like a heightened state of de ja vu. Also, I appeared to have an extreme psychic connection with her. When friends would tell me about her I could literally be in the room, in my mind, and could often times finish her portion of the dialog before the person got to what she had said. Needless to say I began feeling uncomfortable with the situation.

The dreams of the original path usually involved her and I doing something together. Little things like stores thriving or closing (IE a store that had been thriving before the Event would close within weeks) in my ws, in ds they appear to be moving forward with business as usual. On more than one occasion I have seen someone I recently met in ds walking down the street and forget they are a stranger, therefore reaching out and having an embarrassing moment.

I live in a small town and have only run into her once. During this interaction it seemed that she was having trouble connecting her thoughts. Often times she would blankly stare at me as though I was a window into another place, I could feel her looking through me. We talked for a while in this odd setting. It felt to me as though we were standing somewhere between the ws and ds, reality seemed thin around us. Like we were living this moment in the event horizon of a black hole.

I am currently still living this thing through. I had another installment of this bizarre dreaming reality last night. Her and I sit happily in the front yard of a friends house (One that I have made in ds and am wondering if I will see in ws). I am currently looking through google maps to find the place in hopes that I may find some sort of answer there. In the dream it appears to be sometime in early fall, late afternoon.

Any thoughts?


reply posted on 16-10-2009 @ 03:21 PM by saejma
I too have had incredible experiences related to dreams and semi-lucid states.

With other people: My mother and I shared the same dream once. About 5 years ago I had a creepy dream- woke up and shared it with my boyfriend. My mom at the time was across the country. We met up a week later and I told her my dream because It was disturbing as hell. Group suicide..drinking from a purple bottle..waiting to die..changed mind after ingesting the liquid. After I told her her face went white and she was so freaked out. Apparently she had the exact same dream and had told my father who was with her. We still trip out over that.

I've also had experiences in bed with a boyfriend I was very close with and thought I was having a conversation with him. When I woke up- I realized I had been asleep but then I asked him if that had really happened and he said yes.

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Those freak experiences aside..
I've always been a traveler.

Very rarely do I visit the past..it's always other worldly. Large mechanical creatures, weird buildings, sometimes a more normal city but definitely not earth, etc. etc.

When I travel to "different dimensions" which I have no idea wtf that means really..but in my dreams there are always portal places on earth.

My first portal was a tree by my old house where I grew up. It was safe. etc.

Last night, I was totally creeped out.

My portal was a beach. A particular spot of sand that you jumped into- but there was an entire process I had to go through to get to the other dimension. I had to be stripped of things from this dimension..like my body. I remember it was very mechanical. Tons of machines that resembled roller coasters. It just wasn't a very pleasant experience. Usually my dreams are soft-and I can fly or just appear or climb. this was so real and so cold.

Anyway I am rambling-- but yeah. After I got there and went through the painful type process of being stripped.. I saw a girl I knew from this life and she looked right through me like she didn't see me.


I'm so confused and wish I knew more about what the HELL happens when I go to sleep at night.


reply posted on 17-10-2009 @ 02:25 AM by EMPIRE
Due to recent dreams I've been having posting in this thread is a must. Recently I had two very strange dreams, and before I get into them (they'll be brief), I must say a couple of things. I normally do keep a dream journal but I've been slack on this. I can only recall two times where I actually saw color in my dreams and it was very brief, and not full color (both times the color was blue.) I constantly experience sleep paralysis and the vibrations, and all I have to do is sleep on my back and it'll happen but I have a "trigger" that lets me know when the episodes are going to take place. The trigger is everything goes pitch black, I mean really black and then the episode starts. However, I'm now able to wake up before it fully happens. Moreover, I had one experience where I saw myself laying down with a blue aura around me, yet I told myself that I didn't want to leave my body. I don't dabble in any mysticism or the occult, but I've read about these things. I also don't do drugs, rarely drink and believe what I've experienced is simply unexplained biological processes, but the two dreams I've recently had are kinda out there.

In the first dream I saw myself in a mirror. This was strange because I normally don't see myself in my dreams, everything is kinda like a first person perspective (similar to real life or like a video game). Now whats weird is when I saw myself, I also saw this "lady" only she looked devious. She didn't look like some monster, but I could tell she wasn't supposed to be there yet I wasn't scared of her. She was on my shoulder in the mirror reflection yet she wasn't on my shoulder. Think the opposite of vampires and how they aren't supposed to cast reflections and you'll get what I'm trying to convey.The dream then went on to another dream that I can't recall. However, I do recall thats he had black hair.

The other dream also involved a mirror and this was strange indeed. I'm once again looking at a lady, a different lady, and there is a mirror next to the two of us and she tells me, "This mirror is the gateway back to your world." Now mind you. I haven't read anything about mirrors in a very long time, and I'm not one that goes around trying to use mirrors to astral project or anything like that. However, that one made my head spin, and I still don't know what to think or say about it.

In closing, those are my experiences, and I can't tell you if dreams are a gateway to another dimension, but according to the second lady, in my dreams the mirror was the gateway back to my dimension. Does anyone know what to make of all this or do you have an opinion?


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 05:26 PM by HimurakaIchigo
reply to post by Kingalbrect79



I think its like a look into a world that's not your own or that doesn't exist yet. At least that's what its like for me. I have weird dreams where I'm fighting zombies and vampires. I'm searching for magical gateways. I'm an assassin. These dreams don't usually make sense to the human brain. But if you look at it from a fantasy angle it makes sense. So I seriously think it's like a world that you never seen or haven't seen.
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