Okay, I will volunteer for the program. It's not everyday you get to time travel, right?

I only read a little past the first 10 pages of this thread, but why was TD banned?

Hmm I would ask the only question that I would be thinking of at the time...how? How did you travel back in time? Maybe even ask how do you cure cancer, if theres a cure? Simple as that. Its better than asking anything personal, as I find that would be a waste.

Here is a good interview that was on coast to coast not to long ago.

www.coasttocoastam.com...





In the first 10min he gives a description of a race of beings that sound oddly familure to a race or a group of aliens that TD says will be at the concert. theses beings that look human but have wings attached to them...it is very good detailed...


part 1
thelightofdayradioshow.com...

part 2
thelightofdayradioshow.com...

Richard Boylan's website:
www.drboylan.com...

have a good one!

jason, you should read his book...its at

ufotimetravel.com just read the pdf on the side, and TD got banned for saying the F word allot...well its more complicated, it wasnt his fault...

[edit on 2-4-2008 by ATSGUY]

Hello to all of the volunteers, posters, readers, awakened ones, soon-to-be-awakened ones, and...You know...the "other guys" (the ones perpetuating the...You know...Crap...).

First message of the day, detach from the "show". Bring your awareness back to your physical self and your immediate environment. Everything we're sharing is supposed to thrust your attention back onto yourself; to re-connect (if necessary) with the nature/environment around you; and to encourage you to open your mind and understand you are on the precipice of some terrific changes.

Hey, liltinybus!! TD was initially banned (and I explained the reasons a few pages back), because he'd sent an email to, I believe, a moderator, voicing his opinions in a frank manner ahah

He signed up again under another screenname, but was banned at that time, because two or three other individuals, for whatever reason, came out AFTER TD started his threads on time travel, with similar threads, and were seen by mods as hoaxers. They may have been; but they were banned before I could make that determination. At that time, TD was seen as one of the hoaxers and also banned.

I made a plea on his behalf and he was reinstated under that, or a different screenname. He's been here under several screennames, but, it seems, hasn't been careful about observing the finer details of the Terms and Conditions; namely with regard to cursing, which he is wont to do ahha What can I say...?

Anyway, it wasn't because he was hoaxing, as much as many would like to believe that...

jasonm56, what's up? Actually, you only need to go a page back, or so, to find the abridged version of TD's time travel experiences. I explain, in brief, how TD came to time travel. Basically, as the result of an ET abduction.

I want to say to folks reading this thread for the first time, it has been going for a year or more, but anyone can volunteer at any time. I have read some posts, and received some U2U's from people asking if this thread is still "Live". It IS. And we are reading and answering, just as we were a year ago or so when it started.

Things have slowed slightly on our end, as the majority of the message has been shared here, but we're still here. TD and myself are reading along. We've just sort of taken a slightly more relaxed approach as we wait for events to start unfolding. Until then, we don't want to clog up the thread with incessant and unnecessary pronouncements of "imminent change". We're aware of this, now we're ready for the show to start.

I wanted to share, however, another great find with regard to the changes occurring. I found a sight created by Jonathan (Jody) Boyne, who lists his credentials thusly, "MA East-West Counseling Psychology | MLIS Library & Information Science | MA Asian & Comparative Religion."

Jody, as he is known by the readers at the site, has compiled a ton of information on what is happening on our planet now. He shares letters from individuals who have had spiritual contacts, friendly ET contacts (many who recall lives with these beings and call them their "family", etc.), near death experiences and more, all claiming that they are here for what is about to happen to our planet. Jody also includes some of the Ra "Law of One" material; and all of these folks are saying the same thing. Buckle up!

Here are some excerpts from the letters that have been sent to Jody and posted at his website. These and other letters are posted at a page for "Wanderers and Walk-Ins", etc., to share their experiences,



SOURCE

In a letter entitled, "I Have Been Told That I Am a Part of the Gathering", a woman writes,



SOURCE

CONTINUED...

Continued from above...

Another letter includes information that may indicate "why" certain folks will be brought up into ships (although, I've heard that there will be safe havens also made available on the planet's surface, teleporters, etc., for others...).

The article at Jody's site is entitled, ""Introduction to the Material and Overview of the Situation on Earth, Ufos, ETs, Transition into 4th Density and Earth Changes". [From the Introduction to The Ra Material--The Law of One.] You can read the RA material for free here - LINK 1 and LINK 2



SOURCE

The "Wanderer" articles can be found HERE.

And here is a LINK to Jody's MAIN PAGE.

In addition to the material above, there is still a great site dedicated to 2012 (which I've come to accept is more metaphorical than literal; it could be both).

I've linked to this before, but Diagnosis2012.co.uk now has 300 links to material - channeled, visions, contact experiences, prophecies, etc. - that all point to this time.

Another great resource site, called FromTheStars.com, compiles similarly intriguing stories and data, stating the same thing.

Here is the introduction on one 2012 article page where the author lays out much of what has influenced her beliefs about 2012,



SOURCE

The author has also compiled a list of "UFO Fleet" videos from around the world that further support the time of change we are now experiencing. NOT one of doom and gloom, but one of awakening.

As the RA material states, however, your vibration/intentions will guide you where you are destined to go. This seems to be a common theme right now, and it is also very true. TD says in his book, "A change is coming. A good change for good people, and a bad change for bad people." This is a very simple way to put it.

Very simply put, there are two paths to choose; a decision to be made - but that decision is made "inside". Your intentions drive your actions; and your mindset (either open and loving, or closed and fearful) determines your path.

Jody has a preface on his main page that reads as follows,



Emphasis mine. That statement says a lot about our beliefs about our existence; primarily that we have stopped growing, developing and evolving. Really? No.

If you feel alone and disconnected, you may do well to research Jody's page. And if you're tired of things on this rock continuing in the manner they have been, your prayers are soon to be answered.

There isn't a lot of scientific data, or a rigorous study of these changes to persuade the more skeptical readers here - not that this argument couldn't use it; but we just don't have the space here.

Hopefully what has been presented is at least enough to give hope; and to the skeptics, something to think about.

See you on the other side...

[edit on 3-4-2008 by OnTheDeck]

hahahaha carpe diem! brilliant! wish i'd thought of it!

i'd probably ask about stocks, or possibly try and get him to bring me back a baby dinosaur or something. maybe ask him to steal jesus' spotlight, and create an organized religion based on fear and hate, and the second coming would revolve around my birthdate, location, and well... me.

wow this thread is long as hell, sorry if you had moved on in the discussion to something completely unrelated and i interrupted.

I want to volunteer to time travel

Hey Everyone !!!!!!!!

I have some more awesome stuff that is coming through.
You know, people are always on these threads wanting proof of this and proof of that.

Part of the cycle now underway is opening up the awareness. When you see things for how they really are it is mind blowing.
I have mentioned before that ET Technology is all around us and that we are at the infant stages in building and developing that technology.

So you want proof. Proof of what they can do. Go outside and look at a tree. As it has been explained to me. Trees are what we would call machines. Organic machines that can self replicate.
Think about it for a moment, let it hit you.

In layman’s terms, imagine in our world if you bought a CPU from the store. Took it home and put it on the desk and watered it. It then grew into a fully working PC and you could use it. Then you could breed it with other PC's and have the cycle start again. That is the level I am talking here.

Then you have the animals. Once again imagine making a robot of a Dog. Then improving it, then improving it and improving it. Thousands of years later what will it become if you keep improving it? Somewhere along the line you develop the switch from silicon to organic and you have an Animal like a dog that grows, repairs, replicates and works as programmed.

Now this is only the childs play stuff for the ET. Go and look in a mirror and look at the machine that is looking at you. Your body is a machine designed by the ET's. The amazing thing here is that you are interfaced to this machine. They have worked out how to interface a Soul with a machine. If that doesn't blow you away nothing will. When your machine expires you will live on.

Contemplate this. Look at this world in a new light. There are many more examples.

Then they leave me with the last message.
To them the interfacing of a Soul to a Machine aka Human Body is no big deal.
Wait till they show you the really advanced stuff.

man, cyber i think like that everday...haha your tips do rock though!!!keep it coming!

i got something very important..its rather scary to read, or should i say horrible to read, i think it was our future or the future Renato saw when he went to knew York and saw that a nuke had hit it.




read the whole thing here:
The Vision

i am still debating on the planet x thing, and jesus coming...the vision could have been symbolic?

If you guys saw the Duncan ofinian video from project Camelot...there is a part near the end were he says that at one point in his life he was projected to the future and shown a vision almost the exact same way and the exact same scene that this woman saw...

im not trying to bring anyone hopes down or anything...its just that these controllers planned all of this crap...dont forget it!

[edit on 6-4-2008 by ATSGUY]

Hi, ViolaCard, xReaperx (rock on!), Cyber_Wasp, ATSGUY, win 52, TD, and all of the other theater-goers, currently sitting on the edge of their seats!!

Will it be a financial crash? War with Iran? A mass flyover/landing? ahaha It's in the air. Does everyone have this feeling of anticipation? It feels like something's gotta give. The dam's gonna burst.

I would like to suggest that this may be a spiritual/energetic pressure that is building up, and it just feels like a dam about to break. None can tell...

I just popped on to share some strange experiences, but first want to give a shout out to xReaperx!! Welcome aboard. Please wait for contact. Peace!

Hey, Cyber_Wasp!! Interesting as always...You know, you were talking about the clouds changing shape, etc. a little while ago. I've come across some more interesting cloud situations, and think they will play - they ARE playing - a role in things to come.

What's up, ATSGUY!! I read the vision thread you linked to last week. I'm not concerned about it. Edgar Cayce had similarly catastrophic visions. David Wilcock counts those visions up to the message source being dubious based on Cayce's own disturbed mindset at the time. Not his psychological viability (if that's the right word), but his spiritual reservations and doubts at the time those messages were received.

It is also entirely possible for the future to be altered (in many ways, not the least of which is a timeline change...). But I'm not concerned. We need to leave the emotions connected to such predictions behind. The base you should be operating from is one that is grounded, centered, open and connected to the source/creator. You can hurt the body, but the consciousness/energy/individual that resides within it is indestructible.

The future, whatever it has in store, is a phantom in your mind. The present is what you are living, and which is the source of the future. Right now, you are a person hoping or fearing for something that doesn't exist yet. Let the past - and the future - go. Desiring or fearing about the past or future are ways to set you off balance.

It's a grasping. Stop grasping; keep your attention in this moment and you will regain your center. How do you do that? Stop fabricating these thoughts and entertaining the scenarios, however positive or negative. Bring your attention to the weight of your body in the chair you're sitting in. What sounds do you hear? I hear birds outside my window at the moment. And a car every now and then, passing over the rain-soaked street. Things to keep you rooted in the here and now...

There is no fear in the present moment, free from the past and future. Only vast openness.

I wanted to share a couple of things. First, about a week or two ago (maybe a little more) I heard something running in the attic above my room. It sounded like something with short legs, running "fairly" quickly. I've been in this house for almost three years, and I've never heard anything like that over my room.

I don't know if this is connected, but a week or so ago I took that photo over the roof of my house and saw that beam of light extending diagonally down toward my roof. The beam went into my attic.

So I'm sitting in my room again yesterday or the day before, and I hear the same running. Could it be a squirrel? Possibly. But it would be the first time in three years I've ever heard anything running over my head. The reason I suggest that it isn't a squirrel is that the ceiling in my room, and the foundation/floor for the attic would not permit anything over a certain size to make that much noise. Whatever was running was larger than a squirrel...If I hear it again, maybe I'll head up there with a camera.

Other strangeness. Last night, as I have been for the past week, I had some very strange dreams. And nothing prompted these dreams. They were all over the map; at times quite literally.

First, I dreamt last night that there would be an earthquake in Texas and on the southern coast of California. In the dreams, as others have reported, I just saw like an overhead map of Texas and California. Both of them just had this dot or something, indicating an area. Pretty funny, Never had one of those before.

So when I got on the computer this morning, I saw these two threads at GLP (LINK 1 -- LINK 2), stating there was a big earthquake in southern Texas (I think that is the area I saw in my dream, but won't suggest that without being clear). Just waiting for some whopper to hit the southern coast of California...

My dreams last night were all over the place. At one point in the dream, I remember a police force of some kind (wasn't getting military) descending upon my neighborhood. And what was really odd was that they were accompanied by these glassy-eyed, sort of hypnotized civilians. The civilians seemed to be in this happy, hypnotic state. Like they were hypnotized, and were milling about.

I remembered taking a gun from one of the officers and opening it only to find there weren't any bullets in it. It was just an empty gun(?). I gathered a couple of people and made a getaway. Most of the people, it seemed, remained and were left to deal with whatever was taking place.

I hid out for a while, and when I returned some time later, I found the regular people that were descended upon by the police and these happy, cult-like members, including my mother, were in some sort of guarded area. They were in these rooms at long tables, sort of like some type of commune, and were chatting and listening to some sort of lecture.

I was able to get some time with my mother alone and she and the other regular folks (not the cult members) had reptilian pupils. They were also hypnotized like everyone else. They were smiling and, I was told by the "staffers," were going to go back to their cages; that they were happy in those cages. The cages were just small enough to fit one person in. It was horrible.

The dream was very unpleasant. I argued with the staffers to let them go; that they were drugged or hypnotized and WOULDN'T be happy in these cages if they were self-aware...Is it possible for someone to manipulate your dreams? Maybe that's why the people you know in your dreams are sometimes poor facsimiles...

I left again. I went pretty far away. Left all of that behind. I don't remember any countries; only that I was traveling from cities and through the country. I remember traveling down a river in a boat with some total strangers. I was eating a large, fried fish (I know, this is strange...read on).

Later, in the boat, I lied down and felt the most intense anguish one could ever feel. I physically felt this anguish in my body. I think it was an experience I've had before (past life? alternate dimension...?). Maybe I was reliving something? Or maybe I was being manipulated in this dream.

I've had dreams before where I felt this anguish in my entire being. In one of these dreams I was tricked, or fooled into tracking this person down to kill them. I was drugged, tricked, hypnotized, or something, to follow this guy and kill him. As soon as it was done I realized that it was my father. I remember this same extreme pain and calling out something like, "In the name of God, why?" Those dreams kind of suck...

So, in this boat, as I felt this stuff, I prayed and sort of cried out for, I think, Archangel Michael (believe it or not). I asked him to take all of this away, or to make it stop - just to fix it. That was the last of that part of the dream. I'm not a religious person. But these are the folks you call out to, aren't they? ahah

Then, when I woke up this morning, still half asleep. I started to get this weird little poem in my head...Something like,

Hello smile
Hello frown
Hello person, upside down
Hello person
Near or far
Hello person from the stars

There were two more lines to it, but I felt like my subconscious started it and, still half asleep, I watched it unfold. The last two lines were something like, "Hello person *something, something*, let's take this planet and shake it up". The last three words were sort of my contribution. I was meaning metaphorically...hehe Anyway, when I woke up, and finished the poem, I immediately thought of the OP at this GLP thread. Just because of the simplicity of the poem...

On another note, I talked to TD yesterday, and he shared another memory with me about a friend of his (when he was around 18 years old), who called him to confirm that they were going to the Limelight. TD said that, at the time, his friend was acting like they had talked only minutes before; but TD said this was the first time that day they had talked. Then, moments later, TD's friend said, "I have you on the other line." TD just laughed and told his friend, "I'm not on the other line, I'm right here..." Anyway, another incident there.

TD wants to put his story in screenplay form, so he and I are going to try to do that. What the hell? If you like that kind of stuff, he'll probably post it at his site - FOR FREE. Who knows...?

On a side note, I've been seeing a lot of videos/reports from Texas. There are several folks posting photos and videos from Texas, and many sightings occurring there. Not the least of which is the Stephenville, Texas event. We may see things happen in Texas first. We kind of already have, but maybe keep an eye on the Lonestar state...AND California...Never had premonitory dreams before. It was really strange seeing that Texas earthquake stuff this morning...Really...

Like Casey Kasem always used to say, "Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars!"

Peace...

WOW OTD, that was one crazy dream. YOu know i have started recording my dreams, and they all have a pattern of dealing with certain things in my life. For instance i am angry at my cousin for getting me all pumped up for joining a boxing club, I resent it because the coach is a real A##hole and knows how to be a pain in the ### all the time. Also im wasting 100 bucks a month so i don't like that hahaha. I have noticed that in my dreams my cousin is almost always there, and whenever he is we are fighting a group of people in my dream or talking about fighting, and it kind of annoys me in the dream...lol

i guess what i am trying to say is that in dreams you tend to bring in the daily aspects of life in symbolic form...

You on the other hand seem to be getting random dreams like Brian, especially after the earth quake thing you just talked about...there might be some psychic connection.


Also that poem at the end, i remember only one time i was given or heard something in my dream that was kind of like a riddle or something,.. i wish i had written it down but it was definitely not something my mind was thinking about or making up at the time, i think it actually had a good meaning. But it reminded me of your poem and the meaning behind it...i guess it just means change.

but yea maybe you should start recording your dreams, i know it helps me...plus i think i am getting better at inducing an astral oobe


I would also like to say that i just heard that Clutch is gonna be playing at the house of blues down here in New Orleans on the 22nd...i am gonna try to check it out, who knows maybe i will see a Renato down there

Hey OTD, ATSGUY, WIN52 & ye all !!!!!!!!!!

Crazy Dreams OTD. What I can say about your experience(s) is that you are Bleeding.

I have another message to bring through. It has been around me for a while so I want to get it out there so they will let up on me...lol

This is another one about our technology being an infant state of future ET technology.

Surveillance systems with the CCTV cameras are all the rage. They are every where. They record people’s movements where ever you go. It is a funny thing. People tend to behave more when they are being recorded as the vision can be used against them if they end up in court.

Now in the ET world we advance this technology a million times or more forward to the point where in fact, in a different kind of way we are being recorded. This techonology does not have cameras. There are no visible recording or storage devices for that matter, but you are being recorded.
The technology records your every moment, thought, action and more. It also does the same for all the people and animals that you interact with and records their emotions on your interaction with them.

There is no way we can comprehend how this works, but it does.

People say there is a judgment day, when one day you sit before god at the end of your life and it is all reviewed and a judgment is made. The way it is explained to me it is not quiet like that.

You will be the judge. I am not clear on the exact way it happens, but ultimately you will review what has been recorded. The whole archive will be played through you and overall one kind of emotion will be the most prominent. It is then you will know the verdict of your life and what happens to you from there will be clear as in where you will go for your next lesson(s).

I know it is pretty deep and spiritual stuff but that is how it is. If you know what the test is going to be, you can apply this now in your life. Act like you are always being recorded on camera. (Because you are.) Know that you will experience all the emotions you give to yourself and other people in who you interact with.

Knowing this now, you can see when you are being tested. You will know each day if you have passed or failed the tests you are given and can work on it to become a better person.

It sounds stupid but I asked for an indication on how you know you are doing the right thing by people. The simple answer was a smile. When the people around you are smiling you are doing the right thing.

How do you behave when you think nobody is looking?

Hi

Yes, yes, yes yes yes......

That is showing up right now. It seems people with good inentions are being rewarded. Just try it and see what reward you get. A hint...it is not always money.

Also people who try to get rich by trampling good people in the process, will see their pile slowly dwindle away. There will be nothing they can do about it.

Money is not wrong....greedily stockpiling it is the wrong.

Yes, smile.....you are on ET camera. How do you feel about being your own judge? Are these types of things important to you? They should be, because this is your future.

helloearth.info...
hey win regarding your post, listen to the new michael interview. i think it is pretty cool that he talks about the thought adjuster as being a recorder for the world and everyone in it...and then you come along and say your et camera recording thing. hahah

Where's the hidden time machine?

How does it work?

Give me the keys!

Thanks

My puter is in silent mode at the moment....no sound.

Here are some of my insights.

If you can relate events in the Bible to our situation today, this is kind of what you will get.

Money is a big stickler at the moment. In the near future, you will have to go out and collect what you need in the morning before the day starts and if you try to take more than you need for the day, it will rot at the end of the day. You will need to get up and collect your daily bread every morning. The bottom line is that we will all be watched over like a Shepard watches his flock as he takes the flock through a dangerous part of the road.

This will lead us up to and past 2012.

It is a matter of days/months, before the current system is taken down. It will be soon, sooner than most will be ready for. Provisions are in place to help the people who will be moving on.

I just saw that there will be a division of the population. I always thought it would be the whole, however due to the inherent bad apples the whole is not possible. You, even God, can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. A place has been prepared for those people who are not ready for the full Monty. Another cycle, if you must know, not hell. Hell is a man made place, not a place of punishment by the Gods. We are all in hell right now. Some of us will be getting pardons, some will have to go back to school.

The Bible has been twisted, but not enough to distort the truths therein, if you seek earnestly.

Heck, I would like the keys to the time machine.

Furthermore....

It will get to the point where food will no longer be necessary for us to exist. We will be given new suits to ware (an upgraded body), that won't require us to consume food to survive. We will be at a higher state of understanding.

Make no mistake, there will be a division. For those who find it hard to understand, or possibly reject the whole deal, they will end up in a separate place. It will be up to each one to judge themselves, and only themselves.

Only people who are ready will move on.

Oh, and if you think you can hide anything....ha ha ha.... Who are you trying to kid, yourself?

From here on, I plan to be blunt... so be warned

You see, that is why predicting the future is so elusive, because it is a fluid thing. It depends on a million decisions a minute, every minute of the day, to make things work.

We are sure of one thing, as recorded by our predecessors (The Mayans), who have given a record and a time line, the time clock is counting down.

It is no longer up to any person living here to make any changes in the way things go down. The best we can hope for is that we figure some of it out before the rake handle hits us in the face.

[edit on 9-4-2008 by win 52]

and then....

There will be a group brought to a new world, much like Earth, and dropped off, being left to survive and mature as a race. They will have to kill and eat to survive. Back to when survival was the main theme, aka the cave men days.

it makes so much sense...it is just a big circle....

and the wheel of life keeps on turnin
bringing me round to my kin

[edit on 9-4-2008 by win 52]

I understand about 2/3 of the earths souls will be ready to ascend with the planet. The rest will be moved to another world and left to mature.

I understand there will be a change in the way evil is allowed to influence the maturing group. The original plan will be put in place, with certain safeguards in place to protect those people while they mature.

[edit on 9-4-2008 by win 52]

OTD- here is what I was talking about

It seemed so real at the time, but yet, was it a dream? I am not sure! Later on I felt it was a view of what is coming.

Like wasp says, the message is in the clouds. That is what we see in the day, clouds instead of ships. Much like in exodus where the people followed a cloud by day and a pilar of fire by night.

So, keep looking to the sky for your chance at a new existance.

Hello, Ground Crew!!

I just came on, primarily, to say a big thank you to win 52!!

win, you don't post often, but when you do you're a hard act to follow ahah

Thank you for your shared insights!!

You said,



I can see how you were directed to this passage...

You also said,



I know people are tired of reading the word "soon," so I'll comment on the "provisions" section of this brief statement. Of those people who have shared their understanding of what is to come, this part is right on. I quote your comments above, because many are in agreement.

The phrase "moving on" has many connotations, so you're right about that in the general sense too. Many will choose their destination (or not), and many have already decided, whether they are conscious of this choice or not.

Also,



This seems like a really simple deal, but everyone, whether they are aware of it or not, have laid the groundwork to determine where they are headed next. I have a feeling that many people will be surprised, pleasantly, where they are headed. For those who will be unpleasantly surprised, I imagine they may have had an inclination as to where they were headed a while ago...

You said,



This is the criteria that I'm a little fuzzy on...I think there is more involved (see above about laying the foundation). Open-mindedness and acceptance are indicators that you are ready. Although, I can't help but recall statements to the effect that some will be surprised when they find out how they were involved...We know that there are people who are involved in the phenomena unwittingly, of ufos, but who remain skeptical...Skepticism is not a deal breaker...It just makes for humor when there is finally an awakening...

You said,



This is interesting. I've read/heard that a certain segment that chooses another cycle (meaning they are not ready to move on) would be taken to another planet to continue their three-dimensional existence.

The others would be advanced/taken to the next level; either a higher level/dimension elsewhere, or here; or to continue on a utopian Earth in either a three-dimensional, advanced physical body, or one much less physical/of a higher vibration (i.e., of a higher vibration?).

Also,



Glad to hear it! To me, there should be rewards/advancement for right living, not suffering. The reward you seem to get on this planet for treating other people with kindness and respect is poverty, oppression, and war. In other words, your disposition has little affect on your standard of living or suffering. For those who handle people and their lives differently (read selfishly) the rewards here are plenty.

Might is right, and if you're willing to sacrifice your fellow man (or your soul) to make it in this world, then you'll go far, temporarily. The rewards are short term; the damage to yourself, long term.

Fortunately, many do not follow the example of extreme self-interest that has been presented. The example that Jesus, Ghandi, John Lennon, Martin Luther King, Jr. and others set can have as profound an effect as the one set by Hitler; more profound in fact.

When you talk about "harvesting" within the context of the choices that spirits/people make on this planet, then it's clear that each of us is solely responsible for where we go.

I look at the downtrodden (i.e., the majority of this planet) in one of two ways (spiritually speaking).

First, this planet "could" be a classroom; with a system seemingly set up to reward deeds that offend one's spirit (i.e., the source) in order to teach us whatever lesson it is we're here to learn (love? oneness? compassion?). If this were the case, then we have a situation where 80% of the "students" here, although struggling with the destruction around them, wish for peace, love, and understanding.

You have a virtually full classroom of students who have "understood" what is being shown to them. Despite this vocal (and not so vocal) majority's understanding, the folks in control attempt to continue to increase and expand their program of devastation.

If this lesson of peace, oneness and compassion has been learnt to a sufficient degree by a majority of those in the classroom, and they want the devastation and wars to end, then what is further gained in this lesson by allowing total devastation to destroy the planet despite the fact that the race in question has already learned the lesson? We all agree, we wish it to stop, but the guys over there have access to the button. Shall we sit back and die?

Is the ultimate lesson to those on the right path to witness a destruction of their race and planet? Why? I just don't see this happening for the majority, in this case, and definitely not in the next scenario.

In a case like that above, at some point it is time for graduation. Many would say we graduate when we die. This may be so. But we have a situation here where it appears our physical classroom is undergoing changes that will see us graduating not only while in the physical, but soon (I know, it's a four letter word...).

The second way to look at the majority of beings suffering on this planet is to see that, at some point, a group of advanced beings took control of the planet and its resources and decided to subjugate and suppress/oppress our race for their own selfish interests. This being the case, and although every being can learn from this situation, we are in a different circumstance altogether, and that is one not of a classroom design, but a prison.

However, despite this second scenario, we are still seeing the apparent beginnings of a change that will totally rearrange the system put in place. This may also be thought of as a graduation, but could more accurately be called an intervention, or a rescue (win 52's word).

Unfortunately, there are more folks whom I find credible, and with much insight, who see this second scenario as our reality. And that is soon coming to a close.

So relating this to the "harvesting", it's not as much a case of "who is righteous," or "who believes in Jesus,"; but is, instead, a house cleaning, and the continuance of a process that was interrupted long ago; namely our advancement/evolution as individuals.

You can look down on our situation from a terrifically high spiritual perspective - from a perspective of those closer to the creator, and see a lesson in everything. But as you get closer to the ground, we have our own perspective and need for advancement. The creator/source can look at one man murdering another with a complete perspective.

As you move on down the chain, however, our own experience of this event is much more different and all consuming; especially from ground level. We do not have to "accept" the situation; and further, if we can prevent it, we will.

This is sort of how our situation is now being regarded. Although the beings we see "assisting" us at this time are taking a "rescuer's" perspective, more than one of militant force. These folks could clean house hands down should it come to that; but they are smart enough and capable enough to do everything they need without force.

We will get our chance to say thanks to these folks. For the time being, just know we're on the right path...

Thanks again, win!!

That second scenario is our lot, at the moment. Yes, we are scheduled for an upgrade, at last.

Most people I talk to these days feel that they are out of place in this world. Not many feel comfortable and happy. This is a sign of the times. People feel like changes are in the wind....I mean people who have never thought this way before.

This is also necessary. People's minds are being made up, as I write. We as residents of this rock, and the rightful heirs, are starting to wake up to a reality that few have imagined. It is our God given right to live here without being abused. That right was taken away from us.

The apple and eve, was that the plot? I don't think so. This will be another huge destination for time travellers in the near future. We will be able to see first hand, how the initial deception went down. What and how did things go down so that we lost our heritage?

I am stoked, like a good fire!

This is exciting and incredible, we must make our minds ready for lots of blowing.he he he

Please do not feel like you are tired of hearing soon. I have been waiting 56 years for this, and I was beginning to think it was just a dream. I have known this my whole life. No matter what they tried to make me believe, this has always been my future, and I have known about it my whole life. The best part is now many are having the same dream, a dream I have kept much of to myself for fear of being ridiculed. It is confirmation coming from fellow travellers that has made me sure of the future.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by win 52]