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Quarantine Until Death: The Pandemic Policy Now on Trial in the Court of Public Opinion

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posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 09:11 AM
I suspect there will be a renewed interest in isolating Africa as a whole.

Climate change pushes 'African' diseases north-expert Reuters AlertNet

NAIROBI, March 9 (Reuters) - Global warming is pushing northwards diseases more commonly found in developing countries, posing a risk to the financial and physical health of rich nations, the head of a livestock herders' charity said.

"These are economic diseases that should frighten the hell out of Europe's meat business, not to mention the threat they pose to human lives," Sloan said.

"Climate change is bringing them to Europe."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

So when is big inc going to help out Africa?
Doesn't look like anytime soon...

Richest donors neglect global emergency fund-Oxfam

posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Regenmacher

I suspect there will be a renewed interest in isolating Africa as a whole.

Thanks for the info and links rainman.

...But isolating Africa, and shutting the continent out of the global trade-and-economic paradigm won't work, will it? 'Cuz our planet is a single inter-connected system, isn't it?

What with the wind and all.....

The dust clouds drifting from Africa to the Caribbean have a dangerous secret - bacteria and microbes that leave a trail of disease in their wake.

Rift Valley fever - a disease that can spread with the wind

East Africa Wheat Fungus may Pose Global Threat - Report

NAIROBI - A resilient new strain of wheat fungus from east Africa is threatening to spread to the Middle East, Asia and the Americas and bring catastrophic crop damage, scientists said on Thursday.

Researchers said the new Ug99 form of stem rust could be spread by the wind and attacked many varieties of spring and winter wheat that were resistant to other strains of the fungus.

Fungus diseases spread by wind: infect corn crops


And never mind atmospheric winds - industrial activities continue to do more than there share of creating disease, releasing it into the environment, and helping it spread. For example:

Fish-Stocking May Spread Amphibian Disease

Science Daily — New research shows that hatchery-reared fish can spread a fungus implicated in the mass deaths of amphibian embryos in the Pacific Northwest. This is the first evidence that fish- stocking can spread amphibian diseases.

There is much, much more of course. The above being just a momentary peek at the microscopic tip of the tip of the iceberg.


No point blaming Africa. Or trying to isolate the continent. Can't be done.


[edit on 9-3-2007 by soficrow]

[edit on 9-3-2007 by soficrow]

posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 04:31 PM
From today's New York Times:

Rise of a Deadly TB Reveals a Global System in Crisis

The outbreak is not limited to Africa. Dr. Paul Nunn, a tuberculosis expert at the World Health Organization, told the meeting here that one or more cases of XDR-TB had been found in at least 28 countries. Extrapolating from data about the multidrug-resistant form of tuberculosis, Dr. Nunn estimated that two-thirds of the XDR-TB cases were from China, India and Russia.

The recipe for spreading the disease is the same throughout the world: inappropriate use of antibiotics. ...

...XDR-TB may be just as infectious as regular tuberculosis and may be highly transmissible. And that is worrisome, Dr. Weyer said, because “most public health facilities in the developing world lack airborne infection control procedures.”

....earlier this month, as if to illustrate the logistical hazards of caring for XDR-TB patients, 100 people walked out of a hospital in East London, South Africa, after paramedics wearing head-to-toe protection brought in eight patients with the disease.

Some authorities continue to recommend quarantine - but "civil liberties aside, many experts say, these advocates have not thought through the practical aspects of such isolations. Enforced isolation “is much more difficult to implement than one would think,”..."

In medical journals and at scientific meetings, some doctors in South Africa and elsewhere have advocated enforced confinement of XDR-TB patients. But civil liberties aside, many experts say, these advocates have not thought through the practical aspects of such isolations. Enforced isolation “is much more difficult to implement than one would think,” Dr. Weyer said.

Because XDR-TB is believed to be incurable, such patients could be detained for life or until they die. All the while, infected patients may spread the disease to others.

Moreover, the disease is an occupational hazard for the health workers caring for patients; 4 were included among the 53 in the Tugela Ferry outbreak. Two additional cases in health workers were identified later.

So Dr. Weyer raised these questions, among others: What facilities would be used? Who would volunteer to take care of XDR-TB patients? How would these workers be protected? And without getting permission, how would health officials legally detect the many health workers who are infected with H.I.V.?

Perhaps we should just stop using "medicines" that create new diseases - and find other, safer alternatives. Maybe phages?

posted on May, 6 2007 @ 09:50 AM
Experts now warn that drug-resistant TB is threatening to go pandemic. Many claim that quarantining and isolating victims is the only way to stop it.

The so-called "experts" are blaming individuals who cannot afford the year-long antibiotic treatment, or don't have access to adequate treatment for creating XDR-TB.

Arguably though, it's the global economic system that is creating new diseases, and spreading them via international trade.

But the plan is to sacrifice vulnerable people to protect the "economy" cum Corporate Economic Empire. Yet again.

Drug-resistant TB may cause pandemic

A virulent strain of tuberculosis that is resistant to most available drugs is surfacing around the globe, raising fears of a pandemic that could devastate efforts to contain TB and kill people with immune-deficiency diseases such as HIV/AIDS. ...The strain is known formally as extensively drug-resistant TB. It has been detected in 37 countries.

A retrospective analysis by the CDC found 49 cases of the new strain in the U.S. since 1993.

A report by Yale University researchers said the superbug raged through a rural hospital in South Africa in 2005 and early 2006, killing 52 of 53 who contracted it.


Global Challenges: Examining the Global Spread of XDR-TB

The Washington Post on Thursday examined how extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis -- TB that is resistant to the two most potent first-line treatments and some of the available second-line drugs -- is "raising fears" of a pandemic that could "devastate" efforts to control TB and "prove deadly" to people with HIV/AIDS and other diseases. According to the Post, XDR-TB has been detected in 37 countries. Some health experts say that at least half the people who contract XDR-TB will die of the disease.

According to Mario Raviglione, head of the World Health Organization's Stop TB Department, XDR-TB likely will mutate into a completely drug-resistant form of TB if it is not contained. "We will be left with surgery and prayers," he said, adding, "It's a desperate situation." Doctors and medical ethicists also are attempting to address the situation of people with XDR-TB who are not cooperative with treatment. Some have said that countries will have to consider forcing these people into isolation. "We have to face the possibility that restrictive measures may be necessary to control what could become a global pandemic," Ross Upshur, director of the University of Toronto's Joint Center for Bioethics, said. He added that although he is not advocating detention as a first response, "if voluntary measures fail, people do not have the right to infect others." Other experts have said forced isolation is impractical in poor countries and might drive the disease underground.

posted on Aug, 17 2007 @ 08:26 PM
when will it reach h ere?

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 11:36 AM

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 11:43 AM
Thing is, if it's announced that the latest virulent strain of TB has hit your city, and the life-threatening details are spelled out

people would storm government offices demanding that the infected people be 'locked up, far away. We don't want them infecting us ! '

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 11:48 AM
reply to post by St Vaast

XDR-TB is already here - and has been for some time.


The point now is that such policies are already in place to deal with pandemic flu, another infectious disease.

Also see:

Refusing vaccination labels you a “criminal”

2005: The Quarantine Solution

2005: Bush Signs Quarantine Orders for Bird Flu

2005: Quarantine: A Standard Depopulation Strategy

2007: Quarantine Until Death: The Pandemic Policy Now on Trial in the Court of Public Opinion

Also see: Identify a 'Flu Buddy.' Pair Up to Help 'Vulnerable' During Pandemic.

posted on Nov, 18 2011 @ 08:11 AM
This thread bounces off TB and infectious pandemics - but also applies to the current NCD Pandemic. And the main questions and points remain:

If the Constitution protects people from infection and ensures the right to a safe environment - then why aren't they going after the corporate industries that create and spread the disease, instead of planning to imprison the victims?

Public discussion about how factory farming, industrial pollution and the resulting environmental changes create disease is kept separate from dialogue about pandemic prevention and response - another kind of forced isolation, sometimes called censorship or "sanitization" of the issue.

The science is clear: Most emerging diseases are potentially virulent, deadly, incurable - and man-made. Factory farming, industrial activities, drug manufacturing, food processing, global travel and trade - all play a role in breeding and spreading these new diseases.

But authorities want us to misunderstand the issue - to measure individual rights against society's rights - and ignore the fact that international corporate rights override both individual and society's rights, and threaten our lives.

The question of corporate rights will not be addressed in the global debate. Authorities will not acknowledge the fact that the corporate right to profit effectively promotes creating deadly diseases, and pits corporate rights against individual and society's rights.

The important questions will not be asked. The real issues will not be addressed. The impacts of "corporate rights to profit" on public health will not be evaluated.

Numerous diseases are set to go pandemic, not just XDR-TB and H5N1 bird flu. It's not a question of if a pandemic will happen, but when.

And when the pandemic does hit, if a policy of forced isolation until death has been enforced in South Africa for XDR-TB, then the same policy will be the pandemic response-of-choice worldwide.

In fact, quarantine never works if you don't clean the barn, as any farmer can tell you. In this case, the barn is the whole planet. Many new and deadly diseases are now airborne, not just XDR-TB and H5N1 bird flu - and they can be spread around the world by atmospheric winds. Never mind international travel and trade.

So how do you quarantine the wind?

Rather than isolating and quarantining select human victims, it would be far more effective to change the industrial practices that create new diseases, and the trade systems that spread them.

Yet instead of tackling the most significant factors and looking at prevention - authorities are focusing solely on person-to-person transmission, and planning forced human isolation and quarantines. Which a) won't work, and b) will curtail civil liberties. One needs to wonder why.

NOTE: The NCD Pandemic finally is being acknowledged - and the first response of euthanasia already is being implemented. The next steps are not far off.

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