For Those Of You Who Do Not Think The Border Issue Is Important

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posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 09:52 PM
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Personally, I think there should be no borders. The concept of building a wall is apalling. How is one to travel freely from place to place without extra hassel from cards, money, and numbers you have to repeat over and over again? The fact of the matter is that the argument against immigration always goes back to some form of racism or prejudice, regardless of how you disguise it. Now, the racism may be due to excessive immigration, but thats not the point. The "problem" is not as bad as some people make it out to be. There is no problem with a few dozen people coming here daily looking for a better way of life through my eyes. Unless, of course, we want to go down the road of totalitarianism, and build walls around us to keep ideas and other nasty things that might alter the connotation of "America" at the current out.

[edit on 13-2-2007 by oxygen_kills]




posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by oxygen_kills
Personally, I think there should be no borders. The concept of building a wall is apalling. How is one to travel freely from place to place without extra hassel from cards, money, and numbers you have to repeat over and over again? The fact of the matter is that the argument against immigration always goes back to some form of racism or prejudice, regardless of how you disguise it. Now, the racism may be due to excessive immigration, but thats not the point. The "problem" is not as bad as some people make it out to be. There is no problem with a few dozen people coming here daily looking for a better way of life through my eyes. Unless, of course, we want to go down the road of totalitarianism, and build walls around us to keep ideas and other nasty things that might alter the connotation of "America" at the current out.

[edit on 13-2-2007 by oxygen_kills]


I disagree that the "argument against immigration *always* goes back to racism". It has nothing to do with "race" when you come down to it. Anyone can come to America and become a legal citizen, and I encourage them to do it, however... if you don't want to be an American citizen, then you have "no business" being here. Period. If "you" want to live here, take the steps necessary as to take "your" part in ensuring the continued growth of this nation in a positive light... not as a plague. The problem with "allowing" a few today, leads to a few tomorrow, then a million next time, then..... (that damned ole' proverbial snowball)....

Eventually, you'll have so many living here "illegally" (regardless of race), not paying taxes as a legal citizen (wouldn't be that hard/costly to do if you're just looking for a better way of life), that your economic infrastructure will feel the hit on a daily basis. Then, the legal citizens that are paying, will have to pay more... and more... and more to only maintain what services the taxes were originally for... then sooner or later... no matter how much the legal citizen puts forth... it won't cover the needed "income" to sustain any single service for this nations citizens.


But hey... what's a few today, right?



posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 05:42 AM
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All those who are for illegal immigrations are ignorants about it. Illegals immigrants are in majority criminals. That's why they come illegally. There's a lot of those criminals who smuggle drugs, weapons, slaves, they flee mexico because of the crimes they comitted.

Also, a significant percentage of them are mexican mafia members, who want to do a reconquista and kill all whites and blacks because it's their continent.

Legal immigrants from all ``races`` wants to stop illegal immigrations for obvious reasons.

Just in numbers: 2 millions a year illegally, 1 million legally... 3 millions a year, how will it end? With already over 25 millions illegals, how much time before it explodes into a civil war?

And from all the facts around the country, illegals aliens are from a higher class than americans. Americans are treated like slaves, and illegal immigrants like kings. Free bank account, free housing loan, free credit card... without ID. A poor american CAN'T have a housing loan because he's too poor, illegals are given one without any check. When blacks arrive with large sums of money gain legally for any reason, they are suspects, but illegal immigrants that arrives with 40.000 cash, they are not suspected.

There's a huge problem in the USA, and it is within, you'll have to clear that up very very soon or the US will collapse.

[edit on 14-2-2007 by Vitchilo]



posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by oxygen_kills
Personally, I think there should be no borders. The concept of building a wall is apalling. How is one to travel freely from place to place without extra hassel from cards, money, and numbers you have to repeat over and over again? The fact of the matter is that the argument against immigration always goes back to some form of racism or prejudice, regardless of how you disguise it. Now, the racism may be due to excessive immigration, but thats not the point. The "problem" is not as bad as some people make it out to be. There is no problem with a few dozen people coming here daily looking for a better way of life through my eyes. Unless, of course, we want to go down the road of totalitarianism, and build walls around us to keep ideas and other nasty things that might alter the connotation of "America" at the current out.

[edit on 13-2-2007 by oxygen_kills]


Yeah, let's just all hold hand and freakin sing "Kumbaya,My Lord."
If that's how you really feel, you need a wake up call. You and others who are of your mindset will get it soon enough. It'll be too late to do anything about it then. Thank ya.



posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Welfare recipients already have to work a job in order to receive the welfare check. They have about ten years now. Shame someone did not tell you.

[edit on 1/27/2007 by Jessicamsa]


Jessicamsa,
Maybe you need to explain this to some members of my family. They sit at home collect a check from the Govt. and do nothing in return. So don't tell me they have to work. That is B.S. If they worked, I won;t be happy but I'll be willing to help. This is my own family and i am PISSED that my tax dollars are wasted on them!!!

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[edit on 14/2/07 by masqua]



posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 09:57 PM
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Even if you go by conservative estimates the number of aliens in the US is greater then the population of New Zealand. Aliens get a free pass in terms of benefits.

Now legal US citizens probably cant even talk there way out of speeding ticket. There are millions of Americans who don't have health insurance and yet the US government wants to pander to illegal aliens.

How can you be a nation if you don't have secure borders ?

[edit on 14-2-2007 by xpert11]



posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 10:18 PM
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The Mexican economy is rankly foul, and Mexicans come here because we are better and they are poor labourers. We need manual labor because people want to open Panera Breads, get liberal arts degrees, and bankrupt this country by taking out massive credit loans which they have no clue how are paid for. Irresponsiblity led the Romans to hire mercenaries, how is this any different?



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 11:47 AM
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Oh, you want to hear another really good side of this whole immigrant issue? On top of all of this, I heard on the radio last night that our Dear President, Mr. Bush, wants to bring over 7,000 Iraqi civilians to the states. Guess what? The Demopukes are saying that we should bring more than that over here!! What are these freaking idiots trying to do to our country?


[edit on 15-2-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]





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