I dont think I am knowledgable on these things but I have an interest and found these stories fascinating but now frustrated with the lack of tangible evidence or significant updates. I also dont believe there ever was a Thomas Castello and someone seriously wanting to investigate Phil Schneider similar to how Al bielek as been done would easily be able to put this to rest once and for all. His dead may have been iffy but I am more interested in his life. I would love to know where he gained his credentials etc... who he went to school with etc.

To the OP:

Another thread that delivers NOTHING of proof. I find the story far fetched but you sir have offered ZERO proof regarding it's non validity. Go back to the drawing board and come back when you actually have something of substance.

^ That's what I've been saying all the time when talking about him. Of course it is questionable, ALL he says, maybe not all is true as he says. But his mysterious death and the pics he showed clearly from some black project show he knew something. So claiming all is wrong is wrong to claim. As well as claiming all is true.

So this leaves again on the 'nowhere road'.

Originally posted by Imtor
^ That's what I've been saying all the time when talking about him. Of course it is questionable, ALL he says, maybe not all is true as he says. But his mysterious death and the pics he showed clearly from some black project show he knew something. So claiming all is wrong is wrong to claim. As well as claiming all is true.

So this leaves again on the 'nowhere road'.

His nervous mannerisms and pauses all point to it being fiction. He's uncomfortable speaking, not because he fears the MIB, because his biggest fear is being exposed as a fraud.

I've known guys like him my whole life. From the guy who swears he had Osama in his scope during Dessert Storm but couldn't get clearance to shoot, to the hundreds of Ex Navy Seals who kill with a toothpick. By the way, I've heard variations of the Osama in the crosshairs story from 3 different people, lots of wanna be hero's out there. As the old saying goes "there were 864 Navy Seals in Vietnam, and I've met all 50,000".

Pulled his Wather PPK (thinks he's Bond) and killed two aliens, who he later told had the ability to shoot light beans that opened him up like a fish, and had to load a mag (or as a person who knows nothing about guns would say, clip) to boot? What kind of government Ninja carries a gun without a mag in it? Hell I'm chambered when I leave the house and I'm no super secret Gman, just a person who prefers to be an active participant in his own survival.

His motivation isn't money, it's getting others to play along with his fantasy world.

He didn't write a book because then he goes from harmless kook to liar, he was at least smart enough to realize that.

People like him get my dander up, they give anyone questioning the existance of ET's a bad name.

Originally posted by Imtor
^ That's what I've been saying all the time when talking about him. Of course it is questionable, ALL he says, maybe not all is true as he says. But his mysterious death and the pics he showed clearly from some black project show he knew something. So claiming all is wrong is wrong to claim. As well as claiming all is true.

So this leaves again on the 'nowhere road'.

which pics clearly from a black project are you referring to?

I just think if there is truth to begin with then why add extra spice (lies) to it all and have it throw your credibility out of the window. I started a thread years ago asking if anyone here attended his lectures but that drew a blank. It would have been interesting to know what it was like actually being at the lectures as you get a better feel for a person being in the same room judging body language etc.

The only reason I doubt his stories is because there has been no progress or updates on Dulce apart from the whole Rio ariba (or whatever) claims but again that new 'fact' will just be recirculated on all the conspiracy/ufo/alien sites same as the matrix documents and Castello and on and on.

The most logical point I can make in my little head is why would you risk hiding something like this in plain site? I know I certainly wouldnt, instead I would have a restricted guarded perimeter with camo dudes, rader, attack helicopters ready to pounce on anyone that dare to trespass, similar to another famous top secret/classified government installation.

Originally posted by capsitan
I suggest the people who think phil schnieder is fake to watch some of his videos, if you have, fine. I just suggest the 'debunkers' do more reasearch about him and thomas costello. Why cant people believe anything out of the ordinary?

because this is not just out of the ordinary but scary as hell! I am not one for UFOlogy but some of what he says has connections to what has been happening recently! Like the fact he expected a police state and today more then ever before we can see this happening right before our eyes! also Reagan made a speech about the world uniting on march 6th to the 8th then 3 weeks later there is an attempt on his life! I find this to be very suspicious!
I also believe if any of us does any research we would find much corroborating evidence! I believe many of us don't want to believe but we have to accept that there is a real possibility that much of this is real! Though it can be just disinfo scare tactics but i doubt it!

Phil Schnider did not die with a piano wire around his neck, as stated earlier in this thread. He had a rubber, surgical tube around his neck. The coroner found no evidence of torture. The official cause of death was suicide. As far as I know, the official cause of death has never been challenged by any another medical expert.

Originally posted by g60kg
I just think if there is truth to begin with then why add extra spice (lies) to it all and have it throw your credibility out of the window. I started a thread years ago asking if anyone here attended his lectures but that drew a blank. It would have been interesting to know what it was like actually being at the lectures as you get a better feel for a person being in the same room judging body language etc.

The only reason I doubt his stories is because there has been no progress or updates on Dulce apart from the whole Rio ariba (or whatever) claims but again that new 'fact' will just be recirculated on all the conspiracy/ufo/alien sites same as the matrix documents and Castello and on and on.

The most logical point I can make in my little head is why would you risk hiding something like this in plain site? I know I certainly wouldnt, instead I would have a restricted guarded perimeter with camo dudes, rader, attack helicopters ready to pounce on anyone that dare to trespass, similar to another famous top secret/classified government installation.

The easiest way to hide something is in plain site. Especially if it's something as outlandish and scary as this story! All we have to do is look at the responses that many have made and you will see that most people don't believe this to be true! I don't know if there are aliens underground, if they are trying to take over the earth or what is happening but i always listen to every stroy with an open mind and a grain of salt! This is not to say that it's real or not but the truth is there is someone trying to take over the world but who or what that iis is hard to say! I believe that we will soon see the truth for ourselves and what we do about it is up to us! If there are Aliens in control of our world then i would rather go down fighting then end up on someones dinner plate, enslaved or worse! We should always be prepared for the posibility of anything! better off that that preporation be in vein then not at all!

Well if the guy claims his dad ran the Philadelphia experiment that would be a red flag to me. As anyone claiming anything having anything to do with the Hoax known as the Philadelphia experiment is a liar. Excepting of course the fabricator that first wrote the Hoax-story, Carlos Allen, some of his stories were true, the ones where he admitted it was a bogus story he made up.

The Philadelphia experiment bandwagon is one only desperate people looking for a buck jump on, not knowing it was dis-proven long ago. If you're going to pick a paranormal story and claim some relation to it, you best research it.

^ That's the mistake of many, they think all has got to be a lie if he's lying or misleading about one thing. It's hard to know what was on in his head, I think he's right about some things, not sure how much of it but I never consider everything a lie, you've no reason to think so.

Originally posted by Imtor
^ That's the mistake of many, they think all has got to be a lie if he's lying or misleading about one thing. It's hard to know what was on in his head, I think he's right about some things, not sure how much of it but I never consider everything a lie, you've no reason to think so.

Have you ever heard of the law of parsimony? It is a principle that generally recommends from among competing hypotheses selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions. Another way of putting it is that the simplest explanation is the most likely to be true, especially when the more complicated hypotheses involves assumptions of underground alien bases and government hit men. It's fun to self-titillate by allowing yourself the possibility that the more outlandish explanation is equally likely, but realistically Schnider probably committed suicide.