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Who do Republicans prefer Giuliani, America's Mayor, or McCain, the Conservative Maverick?

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posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 03:57 PM
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Let's see how these guys stack up?

Foreign Policy 1 - 10 (10 being most conservative)

Giuliani - 6 It would probably be toned down version of the current War on Terror

McCain - 9 McCain is often seen taking the lead for War on Terror inititives and is considered to be one of GW's right hand men so far in the War on Terror.

Domestic Policy

Giuliani - 6 He would probably respect states rights more than McCain and maybe even retire more power to local and state governments?

McCain - 7.5 McCain is considered to be a Maverick and is fairly conservative on most issues. This Maverick status means that McCain is not afraid to jump ship once in a while and go with the Democratic cause. Thus he is just a bit more Conservative than Giuliani.

Although, McCain appears to be the more conservative candidate at first glance his Maverick status and unpredictability could be considered to be an unappealing trait. This trait alone could be enough to make Giuliani the more appealing candidate to Republicans. At least you know where Giuliani stands.

I personally think the only way the Republicans get another president in the white house is if he or she is much more liberal than the current president. So for me being liberal is a strong trait for Republican candidates this election, my vote goes to Giuliani.

What do you think of my assessment, what would you rate the two candidates in foreign and domestic policy and then as overal candidates for the Republican party?

Giuliani - 1

McCain - 0




posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:14 PM
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Since no one has responded to this thread I'll give it a bump since Giuliani is now running for president. I believe the polls are going to show Giuliani is an even stronger candidate since he has admitted to being a candidate now. McCain, I hope you are ready to be VP, lol, and best of luck to Giuliani! Rudy! Rudy!

The score is 1 to 0 does anyone else want to weigh in?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:21 PM
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Right now Im behind Romney. McCain seems like he has a limp handshake and Rudy will bring the mob with him to Washington.

My two cents. You asked for it.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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I am definately for Giuliani. McCain is the only politician I ever donated money to ($20 for the 2000 election), but I'm going with Giuliani for 2008.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:29 PM
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thisguy, do you know who Rudy is? He was responsible for bringing down several MOB families, he is DEFINATELY not a friend to the Mafia. Second, McCain is an American Hero and you are more than welcome to critique him, however the man deserves respect. Anyways, Romney isn't even being discussed here, you might want to start a thread about him if you like.
So far the voting goes

Giuliani - 2

McCain - 0

(good form flyersfan!)



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:42 PM
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Now .. if you really want to throw a bucket of cold water on Hillary .... Have a Guiliani/McCain ticket! America's Mayor and a REAL American war hero (not kerryesque-cheese-eatting-surrender-monkey-faux-hero)... vs Hillary.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Now .. if you really want to throw a bucket of cold water on Hillary .... Have a Guiliani/McCain ticket! America's Mayor and a REAL American war hero (not kerryesque-cheese-eatting-surrender-monkey-faux-hero)... vs Hillary.


You are spot on! Who says the Republican party isn't the big tent party? A Giuliani/McCain Ticket, would be a Teflon Ticket for the Republican Party.

What does everyone else think of the two candidates? Who should be pres?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 03:24 PM
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Gulliani is the man to go against Hillary, the woman could win the elections if she wins the primaries, McCain is a lame duck and has lost his luster.

The only way the Republicans can see a chance to the white house is with Gulliani.

The main issue for the 2008 elections will be, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq and the end of occupation.

Gulliani better start talking about his stance on the Iraq mess before he loses momentum.

Like I said in Another thread . . . I even will forget his dirty rags in the closet of his personal life if he can give me what I want to hear.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 08:31 PM
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Marg, you make good points, but Im pretty sure you are going to vote for Hillary come '08, this is why I haven't put your vote up yet, but if you want me to count it either post back or im me!

Good insight marg but don't you think they'll also be talking about Iran, Iran, Iran?


ape

posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 08:54 PM
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I would vote for rudy, he was on H&C tonight and was very 'articulate', he has an impressive record and made his stances that some predicted the right would not go along with very clear. once again the media hype machine does not represent the majorty of americans who are sitting back and watching this unfold, the media is against us in this country they are only propping up their candidate which is hillary or obama which is pretty pathetic. I predict hillary will lose steam and it will be a obama/edwards ticket. hillary just spouts to much dangerous speak.

hillarys record is crap what has she done for newyork? honestly does that woman have anything good to say? she constantly buries herself whenever she speaks and always gets a pass from the media, if it wasnt for talk radio I would never hear about the crap she says.



[edit on 5-2-2007 by ape]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Low Orbit
Marg, you make good points, but Im pretty sure you are going to vote for Hillary come '08, this is why I haven't put your vote up yet, but if you want me to count it either post back or im me!



You know low Orbit what is the funny thing, I never voted for Democrats until the 2004 elections


But I lost hope on the Republicans with Bush presidency and the poor choice of candidates.

If Republican can have a chance to the White house is with Gulliani running against Hillary.


I will keep my choice of candidate until the primaries.


But I will tell you one thing, Iran will be mention but will not be an issue, is going to be about Iraq, the war and the troops safety.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:11 PM
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I'm holding out for a real conservative.

McCain and Guiliani won't cut it. Newt Gingrich needs to jump in this race.

Any Republican running against Hillary will have a great shot to win. Why not Gingrich?



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative

Any Republican running against Hillary will have a great shot to win. Why not Gingrich?


RR I disagree, Hillary is hot and ready for the job, she has been grooming for the right time and the time is now.

America wants change and this time is ripe of it, that is why we are having a woman and a black man to run at the same time . . . sorry to say but they know they have a chance.

I know you disagree with me, but Gingrich like McCain are part of the dying dynasty of old political dinosaurs that has been in congress and in politics for too long. . . .

People wants new faces, new candidates new solutions and not the perpetuation of same old same old. . . people have hopes they want that hope and people are angry with politics.

You want a chance for the Republicans to win, Gulliani is your candidate.


ape

posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 10:00 PM
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marge please go into detail on how exactly hillary is readyf or the job? please highlight some topics that she plans to fix and how she proposes to fix them? please go into detail about her iraq plan/voting record and her fight against terror? please go into detail on what exactly she has done in new york as a senator and what she offers to this country aside from being a 'mother and a woman', oh and that she likes to 'bake cookies and clean her closet'........ honestly you have to be kidding me? haha yeah america is ready for change indeed but america is not ready for full blown socialism nor will it ever be.

see whats funny is all these people want to speak up about hillary yet they dont highlight on how exactly she will better this country, I have read and watched her speak on tv, she has no substance, crumbles if questions are not scripted, never highlights on her policies and how she proposes to fund them oh and is a master and ducking and dodging.


RR if newt does go in he would have my vote aswell, but lets face it man we are only going to be limited to our choices so lets not be so picky eh? it's better than having some socialist in office. only rudy and the hildabeast are on this thread.




[edit on 5-2-2007 by ape]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by ape
marge please go into detail on how exactly hillary is ready or the job? please highlight some topics that she plans to fix and how she proposes to fix them?


I am not doing campaign for her or any other candidate be Republican or Democrat I am talking about what Americans wants they want the end of Iraq and a new face in Washington they care less if is a woman or a man as long as that person of their choice said the right things.

You seem to be campaigning against her, but be aware that she can become your next president wanted or not.

You want a choice to beat her . . . Gulliani is the one.


ape

posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 11:42 PM
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I know what I want marge and hillary does not represent it as she is anti-individual. my suggestion is to highlight the traits of someone you're propping up (and you are proppering her up ). you can't even name 1 good thing she has done yet you want her to be our president?

she voted to go into iraq and so did alot of other dems, now they just want to bail out? did you learn anything from vietnam marge? do you understand how man died when we left? it was like a holocaust. we need to follow this through and make that country stable and they are doing that right now. al sadr is getting shut down. honestly she has not highlighted on any strategy non of those democrats have they only made the situation worse for political gain, they are all clueless. you honestly need to get off that MSNBC kool aid.

what's her solution to iraq marge? heh i can still remember her husbands administration making cases against saddam and she is on record for linking saddam to al qaeda now she is making moves for political gain flip flopping like a fish? we need someone with integrity not some dishonest woman. and she is hardly a new face in wahsington infact when she was first lady she was involved in almost as many scandals as slick willy.



[edit on 5-2-2007 by ape]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 11:46 PM
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God help us if we have another clinton in the whitehouse.

She would just finish where her husband left off.


I know this will sound very sexist, but I dont want a women to be the leader of the free world, especially when we are at war! Only if I knew she could do the job better then anyone else, would I vote for her. I know that there are many ppl that do not want a women as our president, especially ppl who are serveing in our armed forces. Hillary would be the nail in the coffin for the dems if you ask me.



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 11:49 PM
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Guliani wouldnt be a bad prospect. He would probably get the votes from NY, and he just seems like an all around smart man that wants whats best for America.



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 12:30 AM
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Good Stuff thank you guys for the input! At current look it's

Giuliani - 4

McCain - 0

Please, keep your votes coming, is anyone going to back McCain on ATS over Giuliani?

Giuliani seems to be the candidate with the best track record. It seems that Giuliani has the midas touch and wherever he goes success follows. It is as if he is the Anti-Bush.
Although you can't argue against a man like Sen John McCain with his experience as a Vet., a POW, an American hero, and his leadership in the Senate not to follow the party's status quo.



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by ape
I know what I want marge and hillary does not represent it as she is anti-individual. my suggestion is to highlight the traits of someone you're propping up (and you are proppering her up ). you can't even name 1 good thing she has done yet you want her to be our president?



I am not advocating for anybody the truth is that she is hot for the democrats like now Gulliani will be hot and perhaps the best chance to be her for Republicans.

I know hillary and I know her views but I am not campaigning for her so I will keep my opinion on her policies and what I feel about personal and private.

As an overall candidates worthiness I will talk about the changes of them to win primaries and possibly the presidency as the stand right now with popularity.

In order to understand how politics works you have to understand human nature and what people in different age ranges wants for, I have seen in my voting life five presidents and my husband served under 4 so I can pretty much make comparisons.


At the end people tend to like what it sticks the most and right now is all about Irag.

So far I have been fairly good on predictions.



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