The frat can't defend itself. Your comments and your defense if that's what you call it is, well...
Wikipedia as source is real nice. Real nice to say the least...
Masons on a board trying to defend something they can't. Go figure. I like how you have not tryed to defend your frat with the past 6 comments I have
left. Yes typical duck and masonic run.
Don't know that it would do much good. I have tried to engage you on two different occasions, and in both instances, you have back-pedaled. but'
I'll give it one more shot and go visiting to the 'Interpretations' thread, just to see if you have changed any:-)
Does Freemasonry engage in prayer(worship) of a God? (Not the True and Living God, mind you, but a symbol that Masonry claims is representative of all
Does Freemasonry teach of an afterlife? Yes
"hope of a glorious immortality"
Does Freemasonry teach salvation by other than acceptance of Jesus Christ? Yes
"purity of life and rectitude of conduct"
Does Freemasonry engage in a regeneration ceremony, which is admittedly intended to symbolize salvation/redemption? Yes
". .the drama of Hiram the Builder is a symbol of redemption - - and redemption is the central theme of this degree. 'Raise from a dead level to a
living perpendicular' suggests far more than a physical accomplishment." (GL of Nevada)
"The important part of the degree is to symbolize the great doctrines of the resurrection of the body and the immortality of the soul; and hence it
has been remarked by a learned writer of our Order that 'the Master Mason represents a man saved from the grave of iniquity, and raised to the faith
of salvation.." (GL of North Carolina)
as you go through the process, when you see that the prayers will be generic, as demanded by the Grand Lodge; when you see that Masonry's plan of
salvation is by works, with no mention whatever of acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior; and when you see that the Hiramic Legend is symbolic
of death, burial and resurrection(as in baptism)
You fail to realize that there is a difference between silently praying to whichever deity you want, and by leading prayers out loud and referring to
the Savior of the World by name, Jesus Christ. Again, let's see how quickly he receives feedback on such a prayer said out loud.
Prayer in lodge rooms does vary in some states. In Maryland a Mason may not offer prayer in lodge in the name of Jesus. I have the Grand Lodge
documentation on that. In Alabama, however, things are somewhat different. Consider the following from an official Grand Lodge document:
339. MASONRY AND RELIGION
Masonry has no religious dogma other than that it requires a belief in Deity. Any man, good and true, whether he be Christian, Jew, Mohammedan,
Parsee, Buddhist, Brahman or Deist may be admitted to Masonry because all these religions require a belief in Deity.
340 SECTARIANISM - WHAT IS NOT
A Mason offering prayer in the Lodge may pray to his God -- observing his own conception of Deity. It is therefore proper and in accordance with
Masonic law and tenants for a Mason who believes in the Christ or Jesus to offer prayer in the lodge in His Name. None should take umbrage because he
addresses his prayer to his own conception of Deity. He must use prayer in the Ritual in all ritualistic ceremonies. Any other prayer is out of order
in such ceremonies. (Masonic Code of Alabama, p. 141-2, 1963)
Clearly, Alabama Masons are permitted to pray aloud in the name of Buddha, Krishna, Allah, Brahman, Vishnu, etc. during lodge functions when ritual is
not being worked. They can even pray in the name of Christ OR Jesus. The statement says that "none should take umbrage." How could someone take
umbrage (be offended) unless he knew that the Hindu was actually praying to Brahman or Vishnu? This indicates that the prayers are spoken aloud, or no
one would know.
A genuine Christian would not be able to take part in such a prayer - one person, a pagan, offering prayer for all present.
The first sentence under section 339. states, "Masonry has no religious dogma other than that it requires a belief in Deity." Notice that they do
not say requires a faith in "A Deity." Deity is singular. Since Freemasonry requires faith in Deity, but allows Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems, Jews,
Christians and Zoroastrians to be members, obviously Freemasonry is taking the position that all of these men have a belief in this singular Deity.
Therefore, Freemasonry is claiming that all of these gods, along with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are all the same Deity.
The Grand Lodge of Alabama is teaching the Masonic lie that all men worship the same Spirit (God) simply using different names. Freemasonry teaches a
confused form of 'monotheism' in which all false gods are claimed to be the same Spirit as the true and living God. The Grand Lodge of Indiana
confirms that the sole (admitted) dogma of Freemasonry is monotheism:
The first of the universally recognized Landmarks of Freemasonry states that ‘monotheism is the sole dogma of Freemasonry. Belief in one God is
required of every initiate, but his conception of the Supreme Being is left to his own interpretation. Freemasonry is not concerned with theological
distinctions. This is the basis of our universality.' (Indiana Mentor's Manual, p. 19.)
When Freemasonry requires faith in Deity (God) and accepts faith in either Vishnu, Allah, or any other false god, or the God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob as meeting the requirement, Freemasonry redefines God to include not only the true and living God and but also the various false gods. The
Masonic god is different in make-up than the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is defined in Scripture as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Therefore,
the God of Freemasonry is a false god. The Scriptures clearly teach that pagans do not worship God. Worship of any spiritual entity other than Father,
Son and Holy Spirit is idolatry.
You can call this discussion a dead horse if you want to. But the truth of the matter is that all who continue to ride the Masonic horse, serving the
Masonic god, will be spiritually dead for eternity.
Since you seem new to the forum here, please take the time to read through the various posts to familiarize yourself with the issue. Numerous Masonic
authors have in fact written on numerous occasions that the institution is in fact a religion, one that "honors" all sectarian religions, and one
whose God is a sort of "super god" (GAOTU) that has dominion over the lesser gods like the God of the Bible, the Muslim god Allah, gods of the
underworld and of the evil one, and gods of any other religion. This is what Masonic authorities like Pike, Mackey, Coil, Claudy, and others have
actually put in print.
So defend the insitution if you like and as others still misguided and deceived here continue to do, but know in your heart, without a doubt, that
Freemasonry is in fact a religion, one that is antiChristian, universalist, New Age, pagan worship at its very core.
Each time the Mason sets foot inside the lodge he is inhabiting a place where spirits other than the Holy Spirit reside. This is the bare truth. Each
time one such "Christian" Mason sets foot inside another place of worship such as a Christian church, he and others like him bring that very
spiritual baggage with them, trying to rationalize the teachings behind Hiram Abiff with the simple salvation message that Jesus Christ, the Lord of
lords and the King of kings, died on a cross for the sins of ALL mankind, and rose from the grave by the power of the one true and Almighty God, to
bestow upon those who believed in that power, eternal life. As Luke writes in Acts 4:12.