Originally posted by Methuselah
ice melts, ok, but in those conditions would it? have you tried and proved it?
Yes it would melt. Ice melts with heat. Infrared light is VERY good at heating things. Have you ever looked closely at an astronauts suit? Notice the
blinder? If someone went up into space and looked at the sun without the blinder down, the visible light would blind them and the infrered light would
literally ROAST their face. Heat from direct sun light would VAPORISE the ice rapidly.
the moon controls the tides, yes. a huge body of water in other words a huge mass. indeed. the ice or water vapor canopy would not be of equal
mass and perhaps not attracted due to its stabilzer (earths magnetic field)
That has nothing to do with it. The moons gravity acts on EVERYTHING equally. The more freemoving mass you have, the greater the apparent effect. No
matter what, that ice will flex and shatter under the pull of the moon. And even IF the earth was able to protect the ice via the magnetic field (and
thats a big IF) gravity is a TOTALLY different force and the magnetosphere will not make it exempt.
It will melt and shatter PERIOD. I don't even think it could last an hour.
air pressure is an issue? if it broke we would all explode? well you are talking about miles of atmosphere here. you dont know if it organisms
explode ot not. you dont know at what rate the earths atmosphere would lose pressure. there are a lot of things you are not taking into consideration.
It doesn't matter at what distance away from the surface of the earth the ice is it will greatly pressurise the atmosphere. If it is close, its
weight will certainly give us pressurisation issues when it breaks. If it's far, it's size and weight will increase exponentially CRUSHING the
atmosphere. IT DOES NOT MATTER. It WILL kill us.
And what's more once the icewater is down where does it go? The world can not be flooded and in the future not be flooded in this model because you
have excess water that cant simply disappear.
the big bang theory goes against the first law of thermodynamics. matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed by any natural means. therefore
the earth was created.
Not only does that same law violate the creationist belief, it's not violated by the big bang. I would bet you do not even understand the concept of
the big bang. It doesn't suggest "something from nothing". Look it up cos I aint spelling it out for you.
Noah brought all the kinda of animals not all the different species...
Right here, right now, define "kind".
the earth was only about 2000 years old. in other words, animals have only been around for 2000 years. not too much time for variations within
kinds of animals (speciation).
So you recognise speciation? This is puzzling. Do you know how many generations it takes for a speciation event to occur. Do you realise that if the
flood myth were true, there would have to be a speciation event every few days to explain all the species until this very day. THAT is impossible.
as long as you get two of each kind, your good.
But Noah didnt did he? He got 7 of all the clean animal, further reducing the space on
the ark extensively.
a zebra is a horse, and a horse is a zebra, so get two horses and call it a day.
A zebra is not a horse you silly twit. A child can
tell you that.
the varieties are in the gene pool already and mutations are bound to happen.
So wait a minute. You recognise speciation and micro evolution AND mutation.
You sir are technically an evolutionist. Therein you have all the components of evolution.
there is no hard eveidence against this theory... it is assumed to take a long time but thats not what we see in everyday life. obviously the
evolution theory is wrong when it comes to micro evolution.
Or more logically the bible is wrong about micro evolution. Afterall If science were wrong about micro evolution, then the hundreds of lab studies
would see the different rate of micro evolution. And hard evidence? How about the fact that geology has never EVER found any evidence of a global
uhm what do you think teaching ONLY evolution in schools is doing? what do you think about books asking loaded questions? schools are only giving the
students one option when it comes to science, and that one science is not even supported by truth. its supported be much false information and many
Do you some how think that science has an agenda to drive out God? Because it doesn't, and since it doesn't it has no interest in passing off
garbage for truth. Evolution is part of biology, which is a science, hence it is taught in science class. Creationism is not science, hence it is not
taught in science class. There is no alternate to evolution. There is no theory supported by anywhere near as much evidence as evolution. There is not
a scrap of evidence outside of the bible for creationism. WHY teach something in science class that has NO evidence?
Evolution has had hoaxes, yes. They have been exposed for what they are in favour of the real thing each time. The classic example is piltdown man.
Exposed BY SCIENCE in the 50s.
Evolution is also supported by the entire of the rest of biology, especially genetics. Genetics, by itself, makes creation laughable.
But I wonder why do you actually believe in creationism? Considering me exposing your hypocritical close mindedness, because the bible told you so
right? I mean if you were not a christian you'd believe evolution, surely.
Why take literally a book that man wrote when it is your belief that man is incapable of being perfect? A book written almost 2 millennia ago. Lets
think about this for a moment.
God created the universe.
Man created the bible (albeit on the "inspiration" of God).
Studying which of these 2 things, are you going to get the best understanding of the universe and how things happened? The universe itself (and hence
the evidence) or the bible (a subjective narrative)?
Just about every division of Christianity have realised that putting man's work (the bible) above God's work (the universe itself) is just stupid.
They have learned to distinguish doctrine from deity which you have not.
There is nothing wrong with
[edit on 10/22/2008 by Good Wolf]