Originally posted by whiterabbit
I'm certainly no fan of this guy, but I really don't see what good it does to give someone prison time for something like this.
I mean, if they can't pay the restitution to the government, that's one thing, but he obviously can. So what's the good of putting him in jail?
If the money gets paid back, the debt to society is repaid as far as I'm concerned.
That's like saying corporate executives who make millions doing white collar crime, stealing millions from their companies and bailing, leaving it in
ruins just deserve a fine and a slap on the wrist. Monetary crimes are crimes too, and you shouldn't expect to get out of punishment just because
you've got money. Even if that's the way the real world tends to work.
It's because he essentially stole money from the American public. You pay your taxes (assuming you're both an American and not a felon). You expect
everyone else to, as the sum of your taxes is used to pay for the exploits of your elected government. Now how well that actually works is of course
up for debate (seriously, it's pretty damn misspent), but the matter is, he's using the services of the US government without paying for them. He is
stealing from the government, and by extension, from you, and every other American taxpayer, by some proportionally small amount. That carries a
serious punishment. Now a 200 year sentence is a bit excessive, but you have to be a real douche to evade taxes and then lie about it in court.
Hovind just happens to be exactly that kind of douche. He's lucky to get off with 10 years, and should be damn grateful.
He did it to illegally make millions of dollars off of naiieve people who will believe his lies. Seriously, almost every word that comes out of his
mouth during lectures is dead, verifiably wrong. You can see them on youtube. He ostensibly does not copyright them, but he does sell them for profit.
Unless I'm seriously overestimating his intelligence, he knows he's wrong on many counts, but continues using the same lines despite being refuted
solidly countless times. Even Answers in Genesis tells people that they shouldn't use most of his arguments, and they're almost as bad as he is.
Originally posted by SteveAndrew
Look, I have posted a topic (which I'm sure some of you have have seen) and it'd be nice to post any more evidence (that means facts) contradicting
evolution. As with everything you have too take away the parts you like. I happen to like all of Hovinds seminars and believe in his viewpoint. And
until somebody accurately discredits with concrete evidence (not kenthovind.com) I will change my viewpoint. But until that happens I'm a firm
believer in Jesus Christ.
You don't have to believe in the interpretation of the bible that Hovind believes to be a Christian, and a believer in Jesus Christ. In fact, the
majority of Christians don't. Seriously, if you have any interest in your beliefs coinciding with the real world, you'd be better off taking a more
liberal interpretation. Hovind's beliefs are OBJECTIVELY, VERIFYABLY INCORRECT, and have been shown, to him, to be incorrect. Science can't touch
god, but when you start making claims that have observable effects, it damn well can call you on it when you're talking out your ass.
And Hovind has quite the verbose ass.