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What is an antichrist?

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posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 10:39 AM
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This is what i start wondering after reading around on the internet, what is an antichrist actualy.
Is it just the opposite if christ or is it a name given to some figures that fight christ?
Does it have anything to do with jesus ?

The term antichrist seems to sound like a whole lot but i never seen a decent definition, is there anyone on the forum who could clear this up?
It could be interesting to learn what the term actualy means.

Maybe it is just a term used to give christians an enemy to distract them from the real topics.




posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 11:42 AM
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I am not familiar with the teachings of the bible. I am a Pagan not a Christian.
However, this link may help you to understand the definition clearly.
Click on this link for answers.
Antichrist

The best friend you will ever have is a Pagan, they worship the ground you walk upon.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 11:56 AM
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A Pagan? You mean the same Pagans that used to do human sacrifices at Stone Hedge? lol...Just playing
In answer to the question about the Anti-christ, I've said it before and i'll sayit again in no place in the Bible does that word ever appear. Read the Bible that word doesn't exist. You will find that this "anti-christ," is the Beast. Anyway the idea of an anti-christ is just something humans came up with to explain several instances where someone so evil comes about.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 12:12 PM
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Do you want a Jewish one or a Christian one?

I will let the Christians fill you in.

As for the Jewish perspective:
- so I dont offend someone, let me say from 'a' jewish perspective.


Who are we talking about: Armilus

www.koshertorah.com...
The above is a Sephardic Orthodox rabbi...(if im not mistaken, this rabbi believes Jesus is Armilus basically)

and Chabbad on Mashiach Ben Yossef (messiah), there may be a reference to Armilus in there. The story of the two messiahs are great, I will give a link below this one:
www.chabad.org...

Two Messiahs/ Ben David, Ben Yosef (Armilus might be in this one too.)
www.koshertorah.com...

Have fun

Peace

dAlen



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 12:32 PM
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Antmax21 the word antichrist does appear in the Bible:

1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Also read Daniel chapter 7 specifically verse 8 and you'll see the antichrist.

[edit on 20/1/2007 by verfed]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 12:58 PM
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when are you guy's going to realize that the universe is founded on ying and yang. life and death. If jesus is the peoples savior, the antichrist is the bad that is happening in the world. The antichrist has come and gone for century's. It is up to mankind to find a way to make world peace to forever vanquish the evil that takes place between countries during war time.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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I meant the Torah which contains several differences from the King James Version which added the accounts of the Apostles (i.e. John the Baptist.) These were added later. The Bible is like a catalog of accounts that differ with every renewal of the Book. Thus the Bible (Hebrew accounts) does not contain the newer books. Christian Theology does. I should be more specific.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Logitechismykeyboard
when are you guy's going to realize that the universe is founded on ying and yang. life and death. If jesus is the peoples savior, the antichrist is the bad that is happening in the world. The antichrist has come and gone for century's. It is up to mankind to find a way to make world peace to forever vanquish the evil that takes place between countries during war time.


You bring up a valid point.

But can such a universe exist (be created) in which yin/yang does not exist as the pillar?
No need for Christ/AntiChrist?

How would it work? What would the physics be? Is it pure will?

Interesting thought. I hear people talk of the end of dualism
That is all good, I understand what they mean.

But it appears that dualism is a necessity, which you appear to have also hinted at, but I dont think it has to be the burden it has been.
(Call it conscious dualism) Perhaps thats what the "World Elite/NWO" practice and the rest are caught up in the flow.

Therefore the Anti-Christ is one in the same as the Christ. (They flow in and out of each other.) After all, that which is good, sometimes isnt the best, and can actually be bad.

So much to ponder...good stuff.

Peace

dAlen



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:31 PM
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Therefore the Anti-Christ is one in the same as the Christ. (They flow in and out of each other.) After all, that which is good, sometimes isnt the best, and can actually be bad.


Well if that's the case then I'd say during a period of time them flowing out of each other would even become one in the same and it wouldn't flow in and out, it would just stop because something so godly would not need this kind of spiritual kinetic energy going on. It would just stop in time and continue to work because it's just a purpose after all. So I'm saying the flowing will be one in the same and seize to flow. That will be when Christ has become the victory, the Anti-Christ no more.

It's also wierd that my theory goes with life. If the world is flowing out of each other it bring's conflict with it by rubbing these organism's together as they flow in and out causing friction which becomes some kind of dispute. So the organism's are the cell's of this flow and although they are cells each one has it's own personality just like the people on Earth and the animals and plants and all. That explain's why people comeinto conflict, life flows, then these being's or cell's collide during the flow and it causes conflicts because of the contact.

Now if life was a closed system the energy of the whole flow would stay the same because the energy would be forced back into the system. That explain's how the world's geographic is getting a punishing and in reward the life that was made of those lands was fueling human life. So the life of the geography of Earth will slowly deplete and the life would flow into more human being's. So I think Earth is the fuel of organism's and being's on earth. We will be at our peak with the earth is finally deforested and ice caps melted.

Maybe that's why god does exist. If the earth would cease the flow of life would cease and there would be world peace and finally the Anti-Christ is defeated.

Sad theory but, maybe it does take the destruction of the human race, animals, plants, and everything else on earth to finally have the flow of life stopped and thus peace in the world and that show's that christ has one the battle of good and evil because the conflict's of the world have ceased to exist.

But then I think that maybe waterlife will continue to exist and thus the human race is gone but still there are fish. The flow continues and it becomes Sea World. Except this time the fish will be intelligent. They will create underground space project's which will launch them out of the water with fusion technology. They will inhabit the moon first. They will then engage their mission to inhabit the moon. They will be able to move because of a specially made fusion powered tank of water which they will stay in. it will renew the water and filterize it throughout the mission. It will fly them around and they will start a chain of transporting of earth's water which has an excess and send it to the moon, right after they have found a way to spin the moon to match Earth's spin and then the gravity will be the same so they can just drop water on to the surface of the moon and then have fish migrate and expand in the moon. Then they will already have had a way to create water somehow because they found that new physic's exist in space that would allow these thing's to happen and find how to create water out of space. So the would imperialize the solar system we are in creating a fish empire. By this time since they know how to create water out of space they have allowed some of the land that to recieve the sun's energy in an effort to evolve into a land being. So centuries pass and it becomes an aligator, and then soon, animals, monkeys, and then man.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:34 PM
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And once again man has come back onto Earth but this time using more of their brain power and actually surpassing the knowledge of the smartest fish species.
They would have become the new ruler's of whatever the sea creatures had founded because they would kill the sea creators infavor of all human being species. They wouldn't need the other species because they are so evolved and self sufficient. Soon the cyborg, the battleships, and the scientists, take over all of the existance created by the godly energy. and some how this godly energy immediately destroy's man kind. No sea species because of extermination by the human beings. So now it's the godly force that takes the force of man kind as well as the force it already had making both parts of the dualism into one ownership and the flow stop's to move and then all of the energy of life will just exist in a happy state of existance without flow or colliding or causing friction. Every cell of the force in spacetime bliss.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:37 PM
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Logitechismykeyboard, complex indeed.
You bring up so many things that are not easy to answer.

I wish sometimes there was a "god" that would step up and explain it all.
(Give me the capability to understand.)

Im sure there is some intelligence out there which understands quite a bit.
Life is the weirdest thing when you think about it.

How did we get here?
If no God, then what are we, whose illusion, etc.

If a God, where did it come from, originate, what is it made of, and do forever.
I know, time is what really messes with the mind...its not real.

The human mind is just meant to short-circuit on certain things.


- why do i get up in the morning...why do i tie my shoe? no body really contributes to anything, cause nothing is eternal...yet it all exist forver. anyway, to much... ;-)

No wonder peopel opt to just believe in God...at least you can create a sane story off that line of thought...for awhile. (until it drops of the flat edge of the earth.
)

Peace

dAlen



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:42 PM
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but deep down i really think this is like the truman show. someones gonna laugh at us for being afraid to die. were gonna wake up being who we were the day before we were born and whatever it's gonna be like is what is was.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Logitechismykeyboard
but deep down i really think this is like the truman show. someone's gonna laugh at us for being afraid to die. were gonna wake up being who we were the day before we were born and whatever it's gonna be like is what is was.


Well you know my fear. Death.
Who was that who said your not supposed to voice your fears.


But maybe its more...its called the fear of the unknown...and god knows, there is so much of that. I guess Im like anyone else. (NWO, illuminati, etc. - I want to feel that I have control.)


But with that, I suppose we are digressing away from the O.P.s thread.
So I will stop with the comments.

Peace

dAlen



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:01 PM
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Thanks for all your interesting replies.
They are a bit deep for me do.
I can see that the antichrist could be just the opposite of christ, like the ying yang idea.

But how do most christians see the antichrist.
Did one exist allready and do we have an example ?
Is it a man or woman or is it more a spiritual thing?

Some one said that in the older bibles there is no antichrist mentioned, do they have an other simular thing?

And at last, are there other religions that have anything that could be compared with an antichrist ?

I mean the term is used quite a lot but the explanations are very wide and divers.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:27 PM
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Antichrist is often said to mean "against christ", but can just as well be translated "instead of Christ". This an important distinction, seeing as we've already replaced Christ with the laws of man.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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why these people are pushing the use of nuclear weapons just show's you that they would love to blow this world to bit's in a way never experienced by mankind



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:56 PM
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Me, my Satanist buddies and all the agnostics and atheist are the anti-christ, pagans and wiccans are neutral to this while the Jewish and Christian folks are with Christ, I don't know where the muslims fit in this.

Many men have been blaimed to be the Anti-Christ but there really isn't just one, everyone that opposes the church is technically Anti-Christ, while I respect people of other religion I do indentify Christianity as a negative force since they have forced the religion down the throats of many people who had their OWN religion but they felt that THEIR religion was absolute.

I will also include Judaism and Islam since they essentially did the same thing and fight others that disagree, I oppose this fiercely, I would much rather side with the Devil than with something like this.

But don't get me wrong, I am not in a Satanic cult, I would not force anyone in my imediate surroundings to become one and if my child choses their own religion I will support them 100% unlike the people of other faiths.

I do not do sacrefices and rarely do any rituals or spells.

Your ATS resident Satanist.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:56 PM
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Anti Christ

Anti=...1Opposite: antimere.
...........2Opposing; against: antisocial.
...........3Counteracting; neutralizing: antibody.

Christ=...1White
..............2Male
..............3Not politically connected

Anti Christ=...Condoleeza Rice



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 03:57 PM
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I agree with the previous assertions that balance is fundamental in materiality.

Such as

light/dark
male/female
hot/cold

Duality is necessary for stability but I truly believe that for dynamic systems within the whole, 'binary' is the essential mode of operation. Even our physical bodies work much like switches in computers and our hearts work with electricity.

Therefore, duality is not 'truth' because there is no absolute therein. Sometimes 'cold' is the quality necesary for *whatever* and sometimes 'hot.'
But cold is not ever 'wrong' or 'bad,' just perhaps misapplied or incorrectly timed. And 'evil' is not the same as 'wrong' or 'bad' but is in the same class as 'cold' and 'hot.'

Good/Evil added to the list of duality and thus is removed from the realm of 'right.' Following that, evil can certainly be misapplied and also poorly timed. The same goes for 'good.'

Another pair of terms that fit under the duality heading is:

gather/scatter

Christ came to scatter and that is plainly stated in the bible and isn't contradicted.

The 'anti christ' can then be defined as someone who will 'gather.'


The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
~Genesis 49:10


'Shiloh' basically means 'peacemaker' or 'one who brings peace.'

Christ, also doesn't fit under 'peace' but 'war' and stated that outright.

This is a profound truth in the bible:


To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die;
a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose;
a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew;
a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate;
a time of war, and a time of peace.
~Ecclesiastes 3:1-8


Anti is the one who brings about the opposite action in any given idea than Christ did.

Christ didn't directly do a whole lot of 'good,' that is, what we think of as a 'happy ending.' That's because He was doing 1/2 of the total work.

But yet, it was finished when he was because once set in action, Deity's master plan won't fail - because it is harmony with nature and all things that don't stop for mankind. We fight against this harmony and that is the source of discord, not God or Christ or the antichrist.

If you can distance yourself from your established personal convictions and look at the principles involved, you will see that the antichrist is not doom and gloom at all but instead rectification and completion of all that was started long ago.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 04:00 PM
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I suggest you read the Bible if you want to know the Truth, and please, don't listen to anyone on this website, they will deceive you^^:shk:



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