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although he may not of been the originator of it, propagated the idea of do unto others as you would have them done unto you.
According to some, being a world-wide celebrity movie star who salivates and leaps around on Oprah's set is sufficient to become 'christ-like';
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Christ was looking for totallity in helping all poor. Were a long way from that.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Matthew 26:11
The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me.
We justify not helping the drunkard or the drug addict in the name of " Its their problem". People go homeless, Go hungry and starve to death, but the outrage only goes as far as a sympathetic..: Thats too bad.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
It means complete unselfishness, gods will, getting our souls in communion with him, then the works come, but when they do you realize its his grace and not our own goodness.
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The welfare of the soul is all that matters.
Originally posted by gps777
If its the poor we are supposed to all help then why would Christ want us to give all we have to them and become poor ourselves.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
As far as the drug addict...The problem resides in what lead up to the addiction.
Each person requires attention and compassion. Unfortunately, people shun drug users overall.
Did it ever occur to you
Originally posted by gps777
If its the poor we are supposed to all help then why would Christ want us to give all we have to them and become poor ourselves.
So you believe we can stamp out poverty? that would make Christ`s words a lie.
Big personal warning here,i have just tried helping a drug addict,even opened our house to them and i seriously suggest everyone consider whether the person wants to help themselves first,if not your in for a ride and a half.
I have had a similar experience with an old friend who was/is a chronic alcoholic which wasn't nearly as bad an experience who stayed with us for 3 months,the end result was the same,they both simply enjoyed their life too much to change for the better.
My advice is wait until they make the decision to help themselves,but let them know you will be there for them if and when they do.
Some people are in the situation they are in because they want to be.
Not everyone is a brother and sister in Christ,but yes treat everyone as you would like to be treated.
What does their belief have to do with you helping them out in times of need?
If someone doesn't believe and will not believe then wipe your feet and move on or it maybe a while trying to get rid of the fleas.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
No no, when you focus on the main importance of your own soul, what does that mean?
It means complete unselfishness, gods will, getting our souls in communion with him, then the works come, but when they do you realize its his grace and not our own goodness.
without God we would be like hitler or gang members, deprived of grace.
The welfare of the soul is all that matters.
Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
I believe this is what it is to live life like Christ
www.influks.com...
Originally posted by Selmer2
I don't want to live like him, I just want his marketing rights.
flickr.com...
Originally posted by queenannie38
Well that's two already that you've moved into your house. I've been in that position...i learned that it isn't the right thing to do for anyone. Instead I found better ways to help instead of deciding that wasn't worth the effort. The fault isn't with them but with your ideas of how you should help.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
600 Million Homeless worldwide
60 Million Starving to Death in a year
6 Million are children
Originally posted by gps777
So you had to learn as well Annie,well so did I,but if put in a similar circumstance i would do it again,until appropriate help or accommodation was found.
And when those relationships about same have been and are such that those conditions arise wherein there is the lack of harmonious effects that are possible, then as He hath given, put at naught those experiences, those influences. Let them be rather as they were not.
Edgar Cayce Reading 845-4
The first time i did was for an old friend,the recent time with the drug addict was a new mother who had just been kicked out of a refuge for women because of the drugs,so i acted upon it.
Her life style is more important however,drugs and prostitution come first her in life and yes we did feed and clothe them both even though she earn`t more than us,$2000k a night she would brag,but i said i will not tolerate drugs in my house,full stop,so other accomadation was found for her and the child was with the authorities.
Not one to take a backward step at threats or abuse,i have fired up.though this is not something worth the trouble.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Perhaps, then, you might define just what it is you learned?
Originally posted by queenannie38
Well that's two already that you've moved into your house. I've been in that position...i learned that it isn't the right thing to do for anyone. Instead I found better ways to help instead of deciding that wasn't worth the effort.
(please don't think i'm trying to antagonize you, argue you down, or pick on you
- i just want to show you what i see and then when you see it is your call what to do - it is better to see more than less and this is how we all learn
This is valuable advice from the archangel Michael (through Edgar which means 'witness'):
Not to be harsh - but what did you act upon? The opportunity to give her shelter for a time only to then (in her eyes) betray her like everyone else always had....saying you were a true friend and that she had a place to stay with you....and then later making it seem as if you had lied? Betrayed by an old friend - that was her thought even though it was not your intention.
And even though you did not (lie) - and truly meant it at the time, your change of heart
You expected her to change because you were helping her.
BUT yet you say you would do it again.
And also that you've learned. And still you wonder why the heck they would feel angry or lash out at your family? Think of your family.
Originally posted by queenannie38
GPS -
i read that wrong about the old friend and the recent time - i got them combined into one. Sorry about that.
However - the situation was still about trust
i was just trying to get you to see from outside the situation because within it the view is always partial.
at any rate, i'll leave you alone about it!