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Pedophilia gone awry...

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posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 11:40 PM
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I believe the laws on this differ from state to state, but in my home state for ex if a perp buys a bag of flower from a narc that he thinks is coke, he can still be charged with purchasing a controlled substance: it is up to you to decide for yourself if this constitutes "thought crime" or not, but under this line of thought the two older men should certainly be charged at the very least with corrupting a minor since that is what they intended




posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by lee anoma
Did anyone catch the connection Canadian detectives made between those extreme STAR WARS/TREK fans and arrested pedophiles in Canada?


Too freaky!
I collect old vintage monster toys and just read this.
Yuck!
I just posted the link to this story over at spawn.com's toy forum.
I'm sure it'll get some interesting reactions from Star Trek/Star Wars fans......
....hope it doesn't incite a flame war.
Creepy stuff!



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 02:01 AM
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Are these pedophiles really that bad? If they do not force children to have sex with them, what's the big deal? That sucks that these guys got screwed out of their 12 yr old thing, but whatever, I'm sure they'll find another.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by FsuSteveO
Are these pedophiles really that bad? If they do not force children to have sex with them, what's the big deal? That sucks that these guys got screwed out of their 12 yr old thing, but whatever, I'm sure they'll find another.


WHAT!? No matter how you spin it, peadophiles are ALWAYS forcing children, not asking. Legally and morally the guys are sick, twisted people who need to be locked up for life. As many others have said, peadophiles cannot be rehabilitated. It's a sexuality like being gay or straight, the difference is being gay or straight isn't illegal (in most countries) and can be practiced by consenting adults. Children can't consent, if they do consent it's because they don't realise what they are consenting to.

I don't believe in the death penalty because i don't see it as a deterrant or punishment, but life in prison would be a good choice for them. As others have said, this should be a one strike and you're out crime. Touch a child in a sexual manner and go to prison for life.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 04:05 AM
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1. Be required to be in Genpop. That way they would be forced to meet men there own age or older who will enjoy abusing these freaks

2. Followed up by Death in the Electric chair.

There is no cure for what they have. They will never change. The only thing that changes for them is the new ways they find to do things without getting caught. There is no redemption for these kind of people.


[edit on 20-1-2007 by Royal76]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 04:06 AM
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They deserve getting decieved.......

In my mothers country (Italian rural villages) they hang people with the sausages for things like that

[edit on 20-1-2007 by Selmer2]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ex
I don't have time to look up the links right this minute,
but I also hold the JUDICAL system in our country for this problem.

Why is there not a uniform sentence , instead of sentences ranging
from probation to maybe a few years behind bars,for molesting children

One Strike Your Out!
BYE BYE
SO LONG!!

IN ALL OF THE STATES!!


As long as there as judges like the ones in Vermont, these guys will continue to prey on children. How about the Vt. judge that gave a guy probation after he raped a 4 year old boy?


On Friday, we broke the story of Judge David Howard, who accepted a plea deal from 37-year-old Andrew James. James molested a 4-year-old boy in a terrible way. Judge Howard gave him probation and treatment:
www.foxnews.com...



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 05:45 AM
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sick world, and its just going to get sicker.


Originally posted by FsuSteveO
Are these pedophiles really that bad? If they do not force children to have sex with them, what's the big deal? That sucks that these guys got screwed out of their 12 yr old thing, but whatever, I'm sure they'll find another.


nice comment hope you were being sarcastic

what i found most interesting was that the fbi a few years ago in there bid to catch paedos, found the highest percentage of the people into this were in the police in england, for some reason, maybe being #ed up from the army, then joining the police.

[edit on 20-1-2007 by andy1033]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 05:48 AM
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Its true that these sickos need punnishment. I say we pack them up and ship them off to a war somewhere. Sex ofenders and drug dealers and gang members. Pack them up and ship them off to war. That way we don't have to waste our time killing them the enemy will



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 06:27 AM
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Did anyone catch the connection Canadian detectives made between those extreme STAR WARS/TREK fans and arrested pedophiles in Canada?


The Star Trek connection



A surprising number of child sex abusers appear to be Trekkies. Trying to figure out what that means, however, shows how little we really know about pedophiles.

JONATHON GATEHOUSE

The first thing detectives from the Toronto police sex crimes unit saw when they entered Roderick Cowan's apartment was an autographed picture of William Shatner. Along with the photos on the computer of Scott Faichnie, also busted for possessing child porn, they found a snapshot of the pediatric nurse and Boy Scout leader wearing a dress "Federation" uniform. Another suspect had a TV remote control shaped like a phaser. Yet another had a Star Trek credit card in his wallet. One was using "Picard" as his screen name. In the 3 1/2 years since police in Canada's biggest city established a special unit to tackle child pornography, investigators have been through so many dwellings packed with sci-fi books, DVDs, toys and collectibles like Klingon swords and sashes that it's become a dark squadroom joke. "We always say there are two types of pedophiles: Star Trek and Star Wars," says Det. Ian Lamond, the unit's second-in-command. "But it's mostly Star Trek."

Et Tu Trekkies?


I'd think it would be plainly obvious that all the scifi trekkie and star wars stuff would be to lure young boys who are mostly into this kind of thing.
Its not really rocket science to work out the reason why IMO

I think that hanging is way to good for them. Rotting in jail (as in bread,water, hard labour ) is a just punishment.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 06:47 AM
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fbi found a large amount of paedos are in the police in uk, what does this prove. saying that a large amount watch star trek, how does that make them into paedos.

it is a fact that the fbi, found the highest percentage of paedos were in the police in england, tell me what that stat proves in this thread. i am sure if you look it up in google you will find links.

read the whole article and all you see is profiling.

[edit on 20-1-2007 by andy1033]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by lee anoma
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Et Tu Trekkies?[/url]


This is one of the downsides of the Internet. Pedophiles find each other out and share info on how to lure their victims to them. Certain vulnerble boys are attracted to the Star Trek fantasy world, so pedophiles will have Star Trek memorabilia around as bait. It's a classic hunter/predator behavior. Vulnerable girls are lured by using some other bait like romance fantasy. Saying Trekkies are a bunch of pedophiles is like saying men who wear sports jersies are homosexuals.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by crgintx

Originally posted by lee anoma
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Et Tu Trekkies?

This is one of the downsides of the Internet. Pedophiles find each other out and share info on how to lure their victims to them. Certain vulnerble boys are attracted to the Star Trek fantasy world, so pedophiles will have Star Trek memorabilia around as bait. It's a classic hunter/predator behavior. Vulnerable girls are lured by using some other bait like romance fantasy. Saying Trekkies are a bunch of pedophiles is like saying men who wear sports jersies are homosexuals.
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yep, its just profiling, like the stat that the fbi found that the highest amount of paedos in britain, worked for the police, what does that stat prove if anything. police may have access to some really dodgy stuff that normally others are not exposed to, thats all it proves.


[edit on 20-1-2007 by andy1033]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 07:42 AM
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FsuSteveo. I really, really hope you're not serious in that particular belief. Who are they hurting? Only just about everyone they touch. One is a convicted molester who is undoubtably already tearfully apologizing, and meaning not a word of it. The other two are predators of the worst sort.

These monsters have probably already hurt more than one child in the past.

For those of you who might think some sort of redemption is possible for monsters of this sort I'll leave you with this little thought. To redeem oneself, one must acknowledge the wrong and want to change. These monsters neither acknowledge the wrong not want to change. They are manipulators who'll say anything to be let loose to fall back into their shadowy, sordid world. Unfortunately, they take the ones who can least afford to go there with them.

Look into the faces of children victimized by this, then ask me again who they're hurting.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 07:49 AM
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seagull, we understand your view, but all we are saying is profiling is wrong.

america is a country that i full of paedos, or pedos as you call them just look at the no1 star in america, michael jackson, we all know he was guilty, and money got him of. does not help anyopne when people like m jackson walks free does it, how did letting him walk make this a safer world.

[edit on 20-1-2007 by andy1033]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 08:03 AM
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I'm not advocating profiling anyone. Child molesters do not fit one particular socioeconmic group, or racial group, would that they did, it would be easier to catch them. They don't. They cover a wide gamut of the social landscape, and prey upon a wide social landscape. This makes it, to my mind, nearly impossible to "profile" other than a pschological profile.

Profiling is a tool, not the be all end all. Used in conjunction with other tools, it is a valid instrument of police work.

I hope this explains. My feelings on this topic sometimes prevent me from articulating clearly my points. Though I think my "death to them all" attitude does come through.

Almost forgot to comment on the Micheal Jackson part
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The case against Micheal Jackson, whether or not he's guilty, was as near as I can tell botched from the get go. Witnesses? They all seemed almost as guilty as him, IMHO. Did I think he was guilty? Yeah, I did.

Number one star in America? Fifteen years ago maybe, now he's just a mentally disturbed has-been living on the charity of some shiek in Bahrain or whereever. Probably hurting children as we speak...

[edit on 20-1-2007 by seagull]



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 08:11 AM
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So . . . the supposedly 12 year old wanted to be in school . . . so he could be around other 11, 12 and 13 years old in junior high.

That alone should make him a candidate for life in jail.



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 09:23 AM
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Don't worry everyone, I am in the process of creating a giant human blender, that makes the best pedophile milshake anyone has ever had!! Do you like yours lumpy? sick bastards!



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 10:19 AM
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I like the blender idea, altho I don't think it's punishment enough. Altho I can't help but lauge a bit at the sick irony of this story it just goes to show how disturbed these people actually are.

As for the Trekkie connection- I'm sorry I can't help but laugh at that one. A lot of my friends AND my husband/ his family are Trekkies. Out of all of them, none would even think doing something as horrible as this. I agree with the posters that stated the connection was due to a way of getting the child comfortable...

-Ana



posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 10:30 AM
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The problem is pedophilia is regarded as solely a criminal act when obviously to the reasoned majority these people have a serious mental illness. If we can get this distinction changed and have them labeled 'criminally insane' we can have them institutionalised with no hope of parole or due process, we can hold dangerous and severe personality disordered individuals indefinately in maximum security hospitals.

Then we can work towards having these people used for vivesection or maybe just executed publicly for our amusement
Sorry for the last sentence, however when individuals prey on the weak and young for their own gratification they should lose their status and their rights.



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