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Republican Senator WARNS our Government has LIED about WAR!

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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 10:44 PM

Senator Hagel warns us with a lesson from the Vietnam War: our government lied to us then and could lie us into a war with Iran and Syria now.

Stop the 'War President' Now!

SENATOR HAGEL: ... but I would even begin with this evaluation; that we owe the military and their families a policy, a policy worthy of their sacrifices, and I don't believe, Dr. Rice, we have that policy today.

I think what the president said last night -- and I listened carefully and read through it again this morning -- is all about a broadened American involvement, escalation in Iraq and the Middle East. I do not agree with that escalation, and I would further note that when you say, as you have here this morning, that we need to address and help the Iraqis and pay attention to the fact that Iraqis are being killed, Madame Secretary, Iraqis are killing Iraqis. We are in a civil war. This is sectarian violence out of control -- Iraqi on Iraqi. Worse, it is inter-sectarian violence -- Shi'a killing Shi'a.

To ask our young men and women to sacrifice their lives, to be put in the middle of a civil war is wrong.

It's, first of all, in my opinion, morally wrong. It's tactically, strategically, militarily wrong. We will not win a war of attrition in the Middle East.

And I further note that you talk about skepticism and pessimism of the American people and some in Congress. That is not some kind of a subjective analysis, that is because, Madame Secretary, we've been there almost four years, and there's a reason for that skepticism and pessimism, and that is based on the facts on the ground, the reality of the dynamics.

And so I have been one, as you know, who have believed that the appropriate focus is not to escalate, but to try to find a broader incorporation of a framework. And it will have to be, certainly, regional, as many of us have been saying for a long time. That should not be new to anyone. But it has to be more than regional, it is going to have to be internally sponsored, and that's going to include Iran and Syria.

When you were engaging Chairman Biden on this issue, on the specific question -- will our troops go into Iran or Syria in pursuit, based on what the president said last night -- you cannot sit here today -- not because you're dishonest or you don't understand, but no one in our government can sit here today and tell Americans that we won't engage the Iranians and the Syrians cross-border.

Some of us remember 1970, Madame Secretary, and that was Cambodia, and when our government lied to the American people and said we didn't cross the border going into Cambodia. In fact we did. I happen to know something about that, as do some on this committee.

So, Madame Secretary, when you set in motion the kind of policy that the president is talking about here, it's very, very dangerous. Matter of fact, I have to say, Madame Secretary, that I think this speech given last night by this president represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam, if it's carried out. I will resist it

posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 11:55 PM
Lie? Our government?


[edit on 18-1-2007 by Motoflou]

posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 12:04 PM
you know whether one agrees with his statement or not, which for the most part i do. i have to give him credit for something that i havent seen alot from either party. he argued his point passionatly but respectfully. no mudslinging, and it was intelligently composed. we need more of this kind of dialogue. formulated arguments done in a professional manner. when people just start off by saying bush is the anti christ, or if you dont support the war then you dont care about the troops, nothing gets accomplished. im fine and dandy if people appose my position on things, just as long as they formulate their argument respectfully, passionatly, and intelligently. i am republican on most issues and i have tried to maintain my support for the president, but it has strongly declined in the past 2 years, and my views on the war are also changing. but anyways, i think this man had a well formulated argument that more people in washington need to learn how to do. it takes no effort to rip someone a new asshole or scream and bite their head off.


posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 12:48 PM
We can only hope more in the GOP can show the cajones that Sen. Hagel has. It seems to be happening with the likes of Pat Buchanan and other conservatives beginning to question the official whitehouse spin.

posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 12:58 PM
Well said, Digitalglr. Where were these people 2yrs ago when we really needed them? We are so much farther down the rat hole now. It's going to be very difficult to get out of this mess without some significant and far-reaching consequences.

posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 02:35 PM
Everyday more and more people are beginning to see the lies and corruption that surround this war and the people that wanted it in the first place. Usually after a state of the union speech the faithful rally around the CIC; this time nada.

Desperation breeds desperate measures; be ready.

posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 06:36 PM
Chuck Hagel is a regular visitor at the Bilderberg Meetings with Kissinger & Co. Don't believe that this is real opposition. It's just a smokescreen...

posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 09:32 PM
whats the end up with a lie are we gonna invade all the middle eastern countries ???????


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