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Originally posted by mel1962
God Bless them and don't trust Maliki!
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Here't the way I see it...
US invades Iraq for the Iraqi people.
4 years later they are in worse condition than they found it. Arguable 60,000 people have died since the beginning and they are mad because sadam killed 137 kurds for attemting to assassinate saddam. BTW, It is life in prison in the US just for saying that you want to kill the president.
There man Maliki finds out that he won't be able to have controll over the oil and now is being a thorn in Bush's arse.
Now Maliki says gt our and give us weapons to protect ourselves.
My message to Bush & company! Get out!
My concern is this, US says that they won't listen to Congress on troop pullout, but they rely on the generals on the ground in Iraq. Well the Iraqi PM who governs the country says get out and give us what it takes to defend ourselves and stop using the "but weapons will fall into the hands of terrorist lie."
~This is the most potent the smell of deception has been~
Bush's policies
AAC
Originally posted by marg6043
Originally posted by mel1962
God Bless them and don't trust Maliki!
Don't let the propaganda let the your reasoning get confuse.
Malikin is a shiite just like the majority in the new Iraqi government.
He wants to use diplomacy with Iran, but Alas when he starts to use his powers as prime minister there goes The Bush administration getting in the way and calling Maliki too weak to be the minister of Iraq.
Then you got Cheney running to Saudi Arabia for help dealing with Iraq, but he forgot that the only people Saudi will help is the Sunnis that are getting kill in Iraq because Saudi is majority Sunni.
But now what is our administration to do to stop any probable chances of diplomacy with Iran?
Tag them enemies that wants to nuke Israel and take the blame from Al-qaida from killing Iraqis and targeting coallition forces.
This is not about the Independence of Iraq but to keep Iraq Dependant on US corporate capitalism to survive, rather than letting the country do what they need to do.
Where do you think all the money allocated to Iraq has gone.
Over 150 companies US base in Iraq and the Iraqi people are in poverty, unemployed and with menial ways to survive.
Because rather than hiring Iraqis they were bringing foreign workers to work.
Now can somebody tell me if this to instigate resentment or not.
The only thing that is in Iraq that is the most wanted commodity is their oil.
And that . . . is what our administration wanted to begin with.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
That is not our problem. Iraq has a government there and we should now not be hypocrits and listen to them. The reason we're not is because they are their for special interest; militariliy, economically, selfishly.
Who cares how many he killed, that wasn't the point, but way to overlook it to point out an error. The country is in shambles now.
All you are doing is spitting out the same thing that FOAX News reports. Filter it with the actual facts my friend.
AAC
Originally posted by Nygdan
Maliki wants weapons now because weapons=power. HE knows that the US is leaving before long, and that then the only thing keeping his group alive and in power is weapons.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
This link covers a published artical where Iraqi PM Maliki has said that US could begin troop pullout if they only gave us more weapons.
~source is AAC link in quote box, above~
The United States has held back from supplying the Iraqi army with large quantities of weapons because some have ended up in the hands of militias and insurgents.
A Maliki aide was quoted as saying that Iraqi forces particularly wanted 'heavy' weapons.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Maliki wants weapons now because weapons=power. HE knows that the US is leaving before long, and that then the only thing keeping his group alive and in power is weapons.
Originally posted by St Udio
To my reading of your above link,
a Key Point as to why the U.S. isn't responding to what Maliki wants/suggests is found in these two sentences;
~source is AAC link in quote box, above~
The United States has held back from supplying the Iraqi army with large quantities of weapons because some have ended up in the hands of militias and insurgents.
A Maliki aide was quoted as saying that Iraqi forces particularly wanted 'heavy' weapons.
either Maliki 's words are said in desperation....or perhaps he himself seeks to rise as the strong-man figure that is needed to avert a complete
disintegration of the [satrap] Iraqi government now in power.
I think desperation nails it!!! Its pretty obvious that the US relizes we made a mistake invading Iraq. Now we are looking to bail out, just like Vietnam. Remember what happened to S. Veitnam when we left??? I bet Malike does.