Kriss V weapon for law enforcement.

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Looks pretty cool. Supposedly reduces the recoil. Don't think it has practical use for the law enforcement. Don't know if its to include for police officers which prefers to have a handgun, and not something that big in their holster. Maybe for SWAT, but the MP5K is good enough, and the recoil is controllable. These days they arming themselves with AR15 against criminals that have heavier weaponry and even body armor.

Originally posted by deltaboy
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Looks pretty cool. Supposedly reduces the recoil. Don't think it has practical use for the law enforcement. Don't know if its to include for police officers which prefers to have a handgun, and not something that big in their holster. Maybe for SWAT, but the MP5K is good enough, and the recoil is controllable. These days they arming themselves with AR15 against criminals that have heavier weaponry and even body armor.

Oh Please. Get past the fashion statement for a minute.

Cops in North Hollywood put 650 rounds into standing robbers from less than 50yds using both 9mm and 12 Gauge and couldn't manage to hit one in the face (11 body shots in one and 29 in the other = 1-4% hit rate overall). Said 'homicidal maniacs' then, fully pumped on drugs and hormones, /defended themselves aggressively/ (something the Blue Wolves never think about in their pack-intimidation psychology of expected civillian submission) and with the returned fire of some 1,100 rounds hit 3 civillians and 10 cops (IIRR) in a fight that never should have happened in the first place (both felons being excons with legally returned full auto weapons).

Given you CAN hit a '10 inch plate, 10 times' from 100 yds with a _pistol caliber round_, the reality is that you should do so from a remote firing pedestal which every Sgt. carries in his trunk.

Such being the only way to both deescalate 'with prejudice' (standoff) an urban fight.

And to keep the blue wall effect from covering up for 27 bullets in a wedding groom enjoying his bachelor party. Or 123 bullets in a 73 year old man 'accused of drug dealing and resisting arrest' in a SWAT ambush. Or 45 bullets in a sidewalk fronting a civillian neighborhood where a bunch of cops decided to stop-for-sure a white SUV already rammed into the back of another car with it's motor in the front seat.

Since clearly they can't hit # naturally. And have no respect for their surroundings when 'firing for effect' as a sport shoot.

They should not be trusted with any weapon which can kill someone other than themselves.

Not without a nanny.

In the latter instance, obviously a pedestal also gives you the incontravertible proofing option of video evidence to clear or hang an excess of force charged shooter for his target/aimpoint selection. No more snipers shooting women standing in a doorway with a baby in their arms when two men are armed on their own property, 20ft away from her.

Indeed, since most armed suspects can't hit anything either and 70% of all LEO engagements happen at under 10ft distance from the officer with civillians less than 50ft away, even the tin plate warriors society are probably better off with a weapon that combines gas/electric/percussion/light based effects as a selfaiming or _area_ coverage weapon. Something like a net-Tazer or a proximity exploding poison paintball round or a smart-sight 'phaser' come to mind.

Once you reach that pinnacle of no-adrenaline-in-an-armature common reason, the amount of recoil on the gun becomes academic and if nothing else, the KRISS concept in particular is rendered ridiculously laughable by the notion of a 'full auto' option with a 13rd clip.

If you want to control crime in our society, stop breeding like rats and institute a living wage job assurance system of reasonable housing and food and entertainment options.

If you want to _deny it altogether_, invest 50 billion dollars to install an ignition lockout GPS vehicle tag on every car on the road and (via ankle bracelet or cellphone) every crook who graduates from our DOC institutions of higher learning.

That way you can literally run them down 'historically' after they leave the scene of the crime without worrying about faster-hearse confronting them on ground of their choosing.

Responsible law enforcement is not about the use of overwhelming force. It's about avoidance, blocking and pinpoint application of _selective_ force.

In a world where ONLY the cops are allowed to open-carry firearms, as the sole excuse for 'respecting them' as individuals, guess where the majority of bad-shoot engagement decisionings are going to come from?

Why would you want to give that kind of personality a trumped up subgun so that he can shoot you /faster/?


KPl.

[edit on 19-1-2007 by ch1466]

The way you addressing this issue is more of a letter to a senator or congressman than about the weapon.