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Originally posted by Johnlear
Iran could launch a nuclear missle that 'surprise, surprise' nobody knew they had which was aimed at Tel Aviv but landed off course in southern Lebanon. Israel would swear they tracked the missile inbound from Iran. The US would say their satellites tracked the missile from takeoff in Iran to Tel Aviv. Syria would say, "We didn't see any missile". Whether the missile contained a nuclear bomb destined for Tel Aviv was launched from Iran or whether is was a suitcase nuke previously buried in Lebanon by US secret teams for just such an occasion, a retaliatory strike led by the U.S. and supported by Israel would give Iran 'a taste of their own medicine'. This is just one of a million possible scenarios for the middle east. I lived in Beirut for a year (in Hamra, the penthouse of the Perfect Apartments) in 1975 at the beginning of the first civil war. I know a little about the middle east. Which is to say I know nothing about the middle east.
Originally posted by sdcigarpig
I do not see Iran right now being so stupid as to fire anything at Isreal, especially while the US is in both Iraq and Afaganistan at the same time, that would mean fighting a war on 2 fronts and that goes no where. I do however, see them digging in, doing more war games and alot of prep work, as well as, preparing for an invasion from outside forces. For the first time they do have the upperhand, and are flexing their muscles to see how far they can go and push the line more in their favor. Propaganda is going to be a key to victory, and the only way the US is going to stabalize the region, will be to assist Jordan, Syria and other major Sheite muslim countries improve their conditions, inorder to prove Iran wrong. Anything else proves Iran right.
Just my thoughts,
(If you think I am kidding about the oil prices, go back and look at the past year and compare it with what was going on with Iran, both are definately linked.)
Originally posted by SdiRailgun
Ok so this is something entirely different and might not even be a recent incident: Iran shoots down US spy drone
I´ve searched yet to find a thread on ATS about this incident.
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by Kevin36
Two Iranian F14 T's military jets attack a US Ship some 24 k's from the coastline of Iran, this event causes the United States to declare war on Iran...and I think this is what the US President wants to happen. After looking more closely at this DD, it says that agents from the US CIA actually attacked the ship using two Israeli F15 jets disguised as F14 Iran fighter jets.
Before I bother asking for winning lotto numbers or the next penny stock that makes it big... I'm a bit lost... DD4957? There's no ship in service by that designation, and the current DDG ships in service have two digit designators, and none higher than DDG-84.
I would invite you to float the premise that an F-15 could be "disguised" as an F-14 in the ATS Aircraft Projects Forum and see if any of our resident "aerophiles" think such a deception could occur.
The mere fact that the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident occurred precludes such a clumsy repeat of history... There will be something that lassos the U.S. into action in Iran, it just won't be as predicted.
Innovation and improvisation is the order of the day, and will be interesting to see exactly how high the hoop is before something jumps through it.
Originally posted by graphicsman1977
I'm not an expert at all....but after doing a bit of research, I think that a reasonable case could be made to diguise an F-15 as an F-14.
The wings are very similiar. So..I think that it'd be very easy to pull off.