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reply posted on 15-12-2003 @ 11:57 PM by Seekerof


"Iraqi Weapons: Five Unanswered Questions"
Link:
www.iraqwatch.org...

Excerpt:

"1. VX

The inspectors never could figure out what happened to 3.9 tonnes of VX, the deadliest kind of nerve gas. Iraq admitted producing VX in 1988 and 1990, but furnished no convincing evidence that it was destroyed in 1991, as Iraq claimed. This failure was not cured by an Iraqi report handed to inspectors in March 2003, which attempted to account for up to 63 percent of the missing VX.

2. Anthrax

The inspectors concluded that Iraq may not have destroyed about 10,000 liters of the biological agent anthrax, which if properly stored, could still be viable. Iraq admitted producing 8,425 liters of anthrax, but claimed it had disposed of all the agent in 1991, and provided inspectors with a series of technical reports aimed at substantiating the claim. However, the reports failed to prove exactly how much anthrax was disposed of.

3. Other Germ Warfare Agents

Iraq did not explain what happened to thousands of liters of other biological agent that it admitted producing, including more than 340 liters of clostridium perfringens - though inspectors concluded that Iraq had enough growth medium to have made "much larger quantities." This agent would still be viable today if properly stored. The inspectors were also unable to account for some 19,000 liters of botulinum toxin and at least 2,200 liters of aflatoxin. Neither of these agents would be viable today, but accounting for them is necessary to determine the total amount of germ agent and the individual amounts of each agent that Iraq produced.

4. Chemical and Biological Munitions

Iraq consumed 6,526 fewer chemical-filled aerial bombs - containing some 1,000 tons of agent (mostly mustard gas, but also sarin and tabun) - during the Iran-Iraq war than it claimed, according to the "Air Force document" handed over by Iraq in December 2002. Moreover, inspectors could not account for 550 mustard-filled artillery shells that Iraq claimed to have lost. The inspectors determined that Iraqi mustard gas was still of a very high quality. Also unaccounted for are 29 germ-filled bombs, some possibly containing anthrax.

5. Missiles

The inspectors were in the process of destroying illicit Al Samoud 2 missiles and related equipment but were unable to complete the task before the start of the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Twenty-five missiles are still in the country, along with 38 warheads, 6 launchers, 6 command and control vehicles and 326 engines."



regards
seekerof


reply posted on 16-12-2003 @ 12:07 AM by postings
Seekerof, I have appreciated yours, and TC's posts very much, and I have recognized in the past that you two seem to be gushing fire-hydrants of proof any time you make a point. That is a good thing, which is why I have to ask these questions in honest search for the truth. So here they are:

1. We went to Iraq to free the Iraqi's right? That was one of our reasons I thought. If that is the case, why Iraq? It seems that there are a TON more countries out there that are just as bad off, but for other reasons. Why is it that every time we come to the aid of a country, that country has some kind relationship with oil? A few months back we were called upon to the Ivory Coast for help, and we sent like 200 troops or so and didn't hear much more about it. I am sure there are plenty of folks that need to be freed there as well (Although I don't pretend to know the political landscape of that area).

2. Why was it that we had a plan for fighting terror, so quickly after Sept 11th, and that as soon as we defeated forces in Afganistan, we almost imediately started looking towards Iraq, as if that was the plan all along?

3. Why is it that one of Bush's primary backers during his campaign was one of the companies most involved in the reconstruction of Iraq (Haliburton)?

I am sorry if this was brought up in other threads. I honestly believe I have been keeping good track of those threads, but maybe I just missed this stuff. I ask this stuff not because I am being accusatory or anything, and if sufficient reasons are demonstrated for these issues, I will respect that. I seek the truth, not any particular viewpoint.

I think on some level Fulcrum wants to know this too, but prefers to invalidate his own POV by going off about stuff. I guess the difference with me is that I just question stuff. I am hoping that somone will answer back with some really good points and prove me wrong.

-P

Originally posted by Seekerof
I play with "absolutes" Fulcrum...if anyone don't know crap....look in the mirror!
You talk out your ass and provided nothing, only when you choose to and then it is all simply twisted to fit your perspective and views.
You condemn and yet in your condemnation, fail to ever included your self-rightous ass in the same sentence.....
Going off the "top of your brain" may suit you but I prefer to fight with facts, not "off the top of my head" BS...

Go figure.......


regards
seekerof




reply posted on 16-12-2003 @ 01:02 AM by Seekerof
Yeah...I figured as much coming from you Fulcrum!
Since you won't, I will though...here is a couple links to what Mr. Hans Blix says:

"Blix statement: Key excerpts"
Link:
news.bbc.co.uk...


And here's Mr. Hans Blix's full report to the UN Security Council:

"AS DELIVERED BRIEFING OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL, 14 FEBRUARY 2003
Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC, Dr. Hans Blix"

Link:
www.un.org...

Here's an UNSCOM Full Report:

"IRAQ: THE UNSCOM EXPERIENCE"
Link:
editors.sipri.se...

And here is UNSCOM's Final Report:

"UNSCOM Final Disarmament Report"
Link:
www.iraqwatch.org...



In none of these reports do I read where Mr. Hans Blix or Ritter mention or claim that Iraq had destroyed all their WMD's, as per past UN resolutions. I have yet to read a report that sayss that Saddam/Iraq properely documented those "mysterious" destructions of WMD and then provide said evidences to the UN, again, per resolutions....

Lack of not finding them does not mean that Saddam/Iraq did not have them....documentation shows otherwise. Those are the 'facts' that I argue many here with...facts that are in black and white and have no need to come of the top of my head............
Don't argue with me, nor argue with me providing the links....argue the black and white writings on those documents. I give what is already known but continually ignored because it WMDs have not been found.....be it that it may, I mean, just a couple days ago, many where throwing around that we hadn't caught Saddam yet....my, my, how things change, just overnight, eh?

As with Saddam, WMD will be found and when they do, the denial will continue, just as it does with Saddam being captured.....


regards
seekerof

[Edited on 16-12-2003 by Seekerof]
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