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Originally posted by Novise
I don't expect facts or perfect answers, it would be crazy to expect that. Rather I seek opinions and your understandings of how you think it would work out.
The question is: Just to what extent is a soul free after death, once it has devoted it's life to God, or this good collective-concious? However you see what people refer to as God, this, please apply it to my question.
It just seems that if one is to be "good" then their life must be forever dedicated to this good.
I am quite curious if this relationship would be one where the servant of God would be allowed to come and go freely... or if he would be forever bound to serve, absolutely, stuck in heaven forever.
Good is a relative term on all levels.
Then there are no more shadows and the delusions start to fall away and then you begin to fully realize that you already are free! It is more a matter of our own mind being the prison for our soul and no one else!”
Well, according to the New Testament and the teachings of Christ, it is only free after the Final Judgement.”
What do you mean by dedicated for life to this 'good'?
One cannot know what or where life will take you.....only God knows.”
Hmmm,not sure if this is what you asked for, but hope that helps out in what you seek to know.
Originally posted by Novise
How free are we?
I understand we are free from many things. I wonder what are we free to do?
Originally posted by helen670
Well, according to the New Testament and the teachings of Christ, it is only free after the Final Judgement.”
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asks receives; and he that seeketh finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened.
~Matthew 7:7-8
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
~John 8:32
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
~Matthew 7:1
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
~Luke 6:37
Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
~Luke 12:56-57
Originally posted by Novise
By forever dedicated to this “good”, I was talking about how you have to completely surrender yourself to Jesus/God. If your intentions of being forever dedicated were a lie, then you would not fool Him.
I guess my question was more focused on the afterlife than on life.
I am ultimately (lol) asking, that provided one did everything in life that was required, or if they reaped what they had sown, what would the extent of their freedom in the afterlife be?
And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. ~Mark 4:24
And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
~Mark 12:41-44
It sounds like, according to the scriptures presented here, that the soul will be dumbfounded and never even want to have it’s own thought again. It doesn’t say anything about the soul being free, only free from despair, hate, sadness, anything “bad/evil” etc.
It doesn’t say it is free to do what it wants. That is my question, is it free in any way to do what it wants?