Originally posted by whitewave
Thanks for differentiating between the two. In Jeanne Manning's book, Angels Don't Play This HAARP, she indicates that HAARP is capable of
beaming a focused sound wave (fairly sure she said sound, not em wave) with a carrier wave. Any info on that? I appreciate your opinions.
Hm. Ok, we had that book around for a laugh for a while but eventually someone chucked it in the trash, because it's not in the tech library anymore.
We've got all kinds of crap in there from Long Lost Friend to that book that Lear likes that have survived the trash can. ADPTH did not.
My professional opinion on ADPTH is that it is near total tripe. Where they get anything right, it seems to be by accident. What's funnier is that
they actually hit on some real stuff but blew by it to go for the crap.
No, the Gakona array can't beam sound. It's a phased array MF transmitter, not a big speaker. Sound and radio are as alike as parakeets and gravel.
That frequency characteristic confuses people that are uninformed, though. Yes, they both have frequencies, and no, there is no relation between the
In a strict sense, it can't directly transmit low frequency RF either. Certainly not VLF or ELF, so all the folks in the book/video that say it does
are quite wrong.
You can induce ELF to be radiated using the array, (peeks...it's on the main HAARP site now? ok, if they posted it no sweat...) They wobble the
electrojet by "painting" low density areas on it with the array. That causes the jet to meander back and forth a little. The interaction between the
wobble and the Earth's magnetic field converts the wobble into an ELF signal, sort of similar to the way that a FEL creates a laser beam. But it's
an ELF radio signal, not ELF sound.
You don't need a lot of ELF to communicate to subs. HAARP could function as a backup for the Navy's two transmitters. While the HAARP website posts
some waffling about the amount of ELF produced, the fact is that the Michigan site, significantly larger than the Wisconsin site, only radiated about
5-6W of ELF power. Actually radiating ELF as a wave is incredibly inefficient, even with the relatively long lines that Michigan uses, even using some
relatively clever wave launching tricks that use the bedrock. This is because the efficiency of radiating a signal depends on having an antenna
that's a significant fraction of the wavelength you're trying to radiate. HAARP couldn't divert very much input power from the electrojet
(Gakona's not all that powerful) but they could do it over a very long path.
The wavelength that Navy uses is around 2500 miles in length. Using a 75 mile antenna in Michigan to transmit it is amazingly inefficient, like
grinding a redwood down to make a toothpick. You put in hundreds of thousands of Watts to get 5W out. (I have the Sanguine specs here in a folder
somewhere if you want the exact numbers). But you can divert just thousands of Watts from the electrojet and still get 5 or 6 Watts output power
because you can "draw" an "antenna" 500 miles long with the array.
At any rate, they started converting subs over to using VLF and laser in 2004, so apparently the Gakona backup capability is not a big secret anymore,
although at one time you could have gotten into trouble talking about it. You could use HAARP to make VLF as well, but we have a comparative lot of
VLF transmitters, so the likelihood that they'd all be knocked out is low.
Perhaps they're confused by a description of how the ELF induction is caused, they use the word "modulation", which is true, the beam is being
steered and cut on and off like mad when they're doing this. Turning the beam on and off is modulation.
Now, along with not being really solid on ELF sound not being radio and vice-versa, a lot of these guys think that a signal's modulation is
co-equivalent to the sound. That is, if I am modulating a radio wave with an audio signal, then the radio wave IS audio in some way. Nope.
Can you hear the local AM station? The TV station? No. A signal's modulation, even though it may be audio in frequency, is not audio
can't pretend it is. Either B&M and company don't understand this or they're trying to mislead you, either way it's not a great reflection on
edit: To be more accurate, use of the ELF receivers was finally discontinued in 2004 and the two ELF land stations were decommissioned. The subs had
VLF and to some extent laser capability before then but now those are the primary submerged comm techniques.
[edit on 17-1-2007 by Tom Bedlam]