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posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Lady-Z
Something scary about this next one.

Can a person become trapped in deep depression forever in every new life? Knowing you are going to have a sucky life for all eternity sucks.


All traps come with an escape door---which opens from the inside and is never locked, most can simply walk out when they’ve had enough.




How come depression is so annoying? Just when you think it's gone it comes back stronger than before slowly driving you insane. Next thing you know you're not even you anymore.


No more than an alarm clock that keeps ringing until we hit the fed up button to make it stop. You can take pills and go to the shrink but that can be a revolving door if the root cause is not taken care of.

If we round up all the insane people in the world we would need a world equal in size to this one to put them all in.

Certainly there are people beyond hope---me for instance---lol---but because you are on threads like this one you are one of two things, you have a hidden agenda, or you wish to find a solution to a real problem---I’m no doctor and have not solicited you but my advice is solid and free---since you know you have a problem then the problem is in your power to deal with it.

Depression is normal and common---but it should not be abused or overly indulged, like anything else, if you over do it, it will get the best of you.

If your depression is attitude driven than only a change in attitude will help, if it is driven by drugs and alcohol, that’s a whole other story and you will need help, if it’s your diet, a simple change of eating habits usually helps. If it’s this thread---then there is no help---




posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 09:35 AM
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Ahhh - - depression.

Amazing what a strong healthy diet - - exercise - - and good living does toward removing yourself from depression.

hmmm Iraq - - why are we there. I heard there's a Stargate. Good of answer as any other - - I suppose.

QUESTION: is it better for level advancement to be a vegetarian? I've tried it - but my body seems to require a meatier fuel.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by KREATOR
Hi Sleeper,i have another question,have you ever seen Milton phone home?



I’ve tried to get him on one of those cellular family plans but they are not universal----



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

QUESTION: is it better for level advancement to be a vegetarian? I've tried it - but my body seems to require a meatier fuel.


Hi, Annee,

Cows are vegetarian doesn’t seem to do make them any more aware, or smarter.

Humans are not built to be vegetarian exclusively, but some can tolerate it. What we eat doesn’t make us what we are spiritually, but as you know it can affect our physical and mental health because the human machine requires the proper fuel to operate at peak performance.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X
If you read the blog, its plainly stated that Sleeper belongs to a 'secret society', but he won't openly admit it out here for all to see.

>snip<

In the blog, the "Woman Technician" said to Sleeper, "You are involved with an invisible society, a secret society, and it must remain that way."

Yet here on this thread he openly denied that he belongs to any 'Satanic' or 'Luciferian' type 'secret' organization, or any other secret society at all. It would have been more honest to be truthful. But that's not very likely with folks like Sleeper, is it?


Hey Rudolph, wanna know how I read this? I didn't think so but anyway, I see a difference between "belonging to" and "involved with". Let's say you're in a large midwestern city in the building trades. You've got a contract to do some work for the city, and you're partnered up with a concrete supplier. At some point in the process, someone tells you you're "involved" with a...um..."clandestine organization". If you're from Chicago, you know what I'm talking about, right?


Now just because you're "involved" with said organization doesn't mean you're a member, does it? In fact, if you had to be told you were involved, that pretty much precludes the notion that you are a member.

But I can see the frustration. The stuff we really want to know isn't going to be forthcoming. We're not going to find out anything about the "secret society" referred to because, well, it's a secret. And what about why we're in the mideast? Wouldn't you really like to have the answer to that one even though we now know sleeper knows but can't tell?

And completely off topic, care to speculate why none of this frustrates me at all?


Probably not, and that's ok too.

Keep truckin'.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 10:58 AM
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Thanks Sleeper - - I'm actually of the "born with Canine teeth - eat meat" - - and my blood sugar agrees.

But - - vegetarians "seem" to be more placid and peaceful. But its kind of the "chicken and egg" paradox. Was it there nature to be that way in the first place that drew them to the peaceful - natural - vegetarian life style - - or did the lifestyle endear them.

Perhaps they were a soul who inhabited a peaceful animal in another time.

Oh well - - we can't all be size zero or have big thumbs.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 11:34 AM
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My take on the secret society in the blog is.....Sleeper being there in the form he was....still living an Earthly life....is a tabo that was being broken for some reason.

I felt it was a part of an underground movement that was building strength. Why else would Sleeper be here now telling us all of this. What is going on will eventually be common knowledge to all humans.

I kind of liken it to the outcry by our children for help and understanding from us. They need this, because they have a soul matrix that they don't understand. The experiments and cross breeding which produced them didn't count on this developement, because they didn't understand the full impact of what they were doing. They didn't understand what having a soul means.


Greetings friends;

Or should we say brothers and sisters? For indeed we are your brothers, your sisters, and your children! Many of those who have had encounters with the 'Greys' will understand exactly what we mean.

We are the children of your 'seed', and although our DNA has been altered we nevertheless possess souls, and this makes us just as 'human' as you.

Unlike our erstwhile masters who are lacking what you call 'soul', many of us 'hybrids' -- realizing our foundational humanity -- began to develop emotional individuality.

There are apparently several reasons why the Greys began the 'hybrid' projects. Some projects were to breed stronger beings to serve their collective empire, others to breed 'Greys' with human characteristics and specialized psionic abilities who could be used to understand humans on their own level and who could in turn teach the Greys how to more easily manipulate humans on various levels.

The Grey collective apparently did not take into account that there would be -- by the Grace of God -- so much resistance among our kind to their plans. You see, they could not fully understand the concept of individuality, compassion and loyalty to one's one kind.


www.thewatcherfiles.com...

There was one question I had for the stew....I have seen some fantastic light shows while looking at the Meteor showers over the past few years.

Sleeper you can coment on the first part if you feel comfortable about it.

This is out of curiousity.....can we see ET ships entering Earth's atmosphere during those fantastic light shows? I have noticed two distinctly differen't types of meteor trails during the shows. Sorry...no pics folks....I will bring a camera next time.


-- During contactee experiences, the author became 'friends' with a silicon entity which had 'adopted' him. This entity was actually a LIVING CONVEYANCE or a starship with its own consciousness and identity, which the aliens had developed or grown through some process far more sophisticated than our own technology, although the author did admit that our own government was developing artificial intelligence craft, virtual "flying computers" which could be used for a variety of purposes.


Just wanted to throw this in from chapter 32.

[edit on 15-2-2007 by win 52]



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by win 52
Sleeper you can coment on the first part if you feel comfortable about it.


There are grays that are simply robots, but they can be used as suits by higher and lower beings too.

But as far as ETs not understanding the concepts of individuality, loyalty and love, that’s completely false. These are higher beings than humans, they know and understand everything that humans do plus a whole lot more.

That’s like saying adults don’t understand the emotions of their young---not talking about teenagers---lol




This is out of curiousity.....can we see ET ships entering Earth's atmosphere during those fantastic light shows? I have noticed two distinctly differen't types of meteor trails during the shows. Sorry...no pics folks....I will bring a camera next time.


Probably but how would you know for sure?





-- During contactee experiences, the author became 'friends' with a silicon entity which had 'adopted' him. This entity was actually a LIVING CONVEYANCE or a starship with its own consciousness and identity, which the aliens had developed or grown through some process far more sophisticated than our own technology, although the author did admit that our own government was developing artificial intelligence craft, virtual "flying computers" which could be used for a variety of purposes.


Just wanted to throw this in from chapter 32.


ET ships and many if not all of their gadgets have qualities that give the impression that they are living intelligent entities. ET technology has been rubbing off on humans for centuries; I swear my dishwashing machine seems to know what I expect from it.

Now days the big planes fly themselves, cars would drive themselves if the car makers believed there was a demand for it



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 03:32 PM
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How come I can't live in one of my Japanese fantasy video games? I'm dead serious about this one. If I can't have my world then I'll forever be addicted to video games. What we call real life sucks for creative people like me.

I demand aliens like Milton give me my own cool fantasy world (No cheap tricks I want what I ask for.)

and I demand cupcakes for later use(Not the cheap ones).



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by Rudolph_X
If you read the blog, its plainly stated that Sleeper belongs to a 'secret society', but he won't openly admit it out here for all to see.

>snip<

In the blog, the "Woman Technician" said to Sleeper, "You are involved with an invisible society, a secret society, and it must remain that way."

Yet here on this thread he openly denied that he belongs to any 'Satanic' or 'Luciferian' type 'secret' organization, or any other secret society at all. It would have been more honest to be truthful. But that's not very likely with folks like Sleeper, is it?


Hey Rudolph, wanna know how I read this? I didn't think so but anyway, I see a difference between "belonging to" and "involved with". Let's say you're in a large midwestern city in the building trades. You've got a contract to do some work for the city, and you're partnered up with a concrete supplier. At some point in the process, someone tells you you're "involved" with a...um..."clandestine organization". If you're from Chicago, you know what I'm talking about, right?


Now just because you're "involved" with said organization doesn't mean you're a member, does it? In fact, if you had to be told you were involved, that pretty much precludes the notion that you are a member.

But I can see the frustration. The stuff we really want to know isn't going to be forthcoming. We're not going to find out anything about the "secret society" referred to because, well, it's a secret. And what about why we're in the mideast? Wouldn't you really like to have the answer to that one even though we now know sleeper knows but can't tell?

And completely off topic, care to speculate why none of this frustrates me at all?


Probably not, and that's ok too.

Keep truckin'.


Hello Yeahright.

Thanks for your comments.

Yep, I'm interested in why 'none of this frustrates' you, and would like to hear your take on it.

About Sleeper not wanting to talk about 'above top secret' subject matter, I can understand his reluctance to speak openly on such matters, and you have to respect that. He simply doesn't want to talk about it, so I'm not one to press him or try to force anyone to talk about stuff they don't want to talk about. Sleeper is kind enough to answer some questions folks ask, but there are obviously some things he doesn't want to talk about, and we should respect that. (But its only fair that we should be able to discuss openly what Sleeper chooses to gloss over and ignore.)

You said, "Now just because you're 'involved' with said organization doesn't mean you're a member, does it? In fact, if you had to be told you were involved, that pretty much precludes the notion that you are a member."

Not necessarily. We have to remember that Sleeper has had his memory 'wiped', according to the blog and what he says, many times. Memories come and go, for Sleeper, one minute he remembers something, then the next moment the memory is gone, like he said so many times.

Maybe at some times he does remember his 'involvement' in the 'secret society' (to which he belongs), and at other times he simply does not remember? The 'woman tech' who was working on him told him about his involvement because at that time, under those conditions, he didn't remember it. Under different conditions Sleeper would probably remember it all, and that's when he certainly wouldn't talk about it.

On some level maybe we are all involved in some kind of 'secret society' and don't remember about it because we are in-deep under the covers? Like memories of previous lives, these other memories may be beyond our ability to remember, for now?

The blog says that Sleeper is some kind of 'mule' or smuggler for the aliens. Anyone who would be conducting these kinds of 'special operations' for them certainly belongs to some kind of covert group. And for safety reasons, as Milton says in the blog, Sleeper's memories are wiped. Now Milton and Sleeper are the ones who are doing all the 'sneaking around' in the blog, and are conspiring againt the 'other faction' of aliens who are supposed to be the 'bad guys', right? But, I get the impression that only the real 'bad guys' would be the ones doing all that 'sneaking around' and being involved in illegal smuggling?

And that all leads to the conflict between God and Lucifer. But, I don't want to waste you time talking about that here now. Sleeper stopped talking to me because I dared to raise the subject, so apparently for some reason Sleeper doesn't want to talk about this, fearing what might come out.

Thanks again!


[edit on 2/15/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 04:01 PM
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Lady-X,

I am not so sure if playing video games is the right thing to life creativity since they are limited to the fantasies of the designer.
Also when you feel great in a video games world you feel more empty after.

You can experience the world you like in concious dreaming. And this is not just a saying. It's possible.

My advice for you to have the most creative fun:

1) try lucid dreaming.
2) write a novell (you dont need to public it do it for you)
3) check for an active sport where you are/use the elements of the nature (wind, dirt, water, wood..

I did all the 3 of above and all the 3 gave me a lot.

milton or sleeper or whoever you think is capable to. will hardly give you your world you seek. It's you that creates your world and it's even more true than you think.

Sleepers signature is very missleading because it indicates that you can not create your reality but you indeed can and you do it all the time.
The only difficult thing is to become aware of that process.

hope that helps you a little.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 04:24 PM
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1. My dreams are blank.
2. I can't write good.
3. I don't like sports and nature has a way of annoying me.

Honestly in the game world I feel so alive it's like a highness. Here in our reality I feel empty like you said so I asked myself why be here when you can be there. In the VR world we create or live the life of this alien existence the designers have created for us to experience. The things you see in the game world are a thousand times better then this life.

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posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lady-X

1. My dreams are blank.
2. I can't write good.
3. I don't like sports and nature has a way of annoying me.



Exactly. Can you guess where I came from? I even know your feeling about not beeing capable of loveing anyone or anything. (I was very wrong about that!) It's all a matter of doing the first steps and drop your limits and protections. You can't know something before you have done it.

If you dream in 'full colours' already and write like a professional and enjoy the sport and nature already there would be no point to do it to boost/change something in your life. New experiences in unknown theritory is what you are missing how I see it. And this 3 points I listed gives you exactly that.
You are creative and you want to experience something, so you should just start and experience something and it fills your life.



The things you see in the game world are a thousand times better then this life.


Wait till you had your first stunning vivid lucid dream.
Day-Life will just become another 1000 times more dull.

But you learn to handle that and appreciate life and maybe I shouldn't tell you that in ahead becasue it's not that simple to get there. I wish it would. It would help a lot of people and probabily even change the world at the end.

But what is really simple and very 'motioning' experience is start writing a novell. All you need is to life your fantasie and you create worlds.

p.s. Sorry for my off topic posts here. But I believe I know lady-x's situation a little from my own experiences and this might help her.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 06:43 PM
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Hello

I'm new to this site actually this was the first post i have started reading (no i haven't read all 90 pages) and i don't know exactly what is going on the last few posts but i want to write something on topic.

In my life time (although not very long) i have met/seen on tv so many people claiming that they have seen ET, have been abducted by them or simply believe in them, as people that believe there is nothing out there in the vast reaches of space. Also i have heard 90% of theories about ET like:
- Why should there be more advanced then us... we are one of the oldest civilization of the universe and we will dominate it bla bla...(I go by the philosophy there is always weaker and stronger then you);
- We are being help by ET in all sorts of ways (technology, life time etc etc) and that they don't want any credit for it and stay back in the shadows... ( Actually if they are so concerned about us why they don't stop the global warming, the pollution, the poverty and suffering in the world etc etc... and why if they could invent all those things, humans can't ???, and why are they trying so hard to stay in the shadows ) to sleeper about his first post... its because the fall of the inqusition.
- We are all part of a huge ET experiment. They have created us for experimenting. Or earth is one big ET luna park and they come here on vacation to toy with humans etc etc... (If they are so advanced what kind of interest would they have in experimenting us, or more creating us and experimenting on us, and if we are just for fun 10000+ years old luna park?!?! ...)
I can go on and on about theory's about ET and their (not) existence but to be honest i'm too lazy at the moment. My point in this post was that there is something out there that is 100% sure. In our dimension, in some other, on some higher planner of existence,maybe next to us but we cant see him but ,he has created us, he is watching us and he controls us (not to go to far out of his designed path,or maybe just not to get out of control who knows, maybe something else). Some of you call it god some of you a more advanced species then humans. But one thing is sure we didn't just came to be, and all the answers to our unanswered question we may get it tomorrow and maybe never, not one human will know them. From this we can draw even more question but they would be way of topic.
Thats all from me for now.



posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Medvith
Hello

I'm new to this site actually this was the first post i have started reading (no i haven't read all 90 pages) and i don't know exactly what is going on the last few posts but i want to write something on topic... [snip]

Thats all from me for now.


Hello Medvith.

Thanks for your comments.

Welcome. Lots of folks here have the same kind of ideas and thoughts you expressed in your post so you should feel right at home here.

This thread was started by a fellow who calls himself Sleeper. In this thread folks talk about all kinds of stuff, but the primary reason for the thread here is to discuss Sleeper's 'Sci-Fi' blog. Look for one of Sleeper's posts, and down near the bottom of it you should be able to find a link to his blog. Clicking on the link will take you to the blog. Once you have read it, you'll be ready to ask Sleeper questions, and talk to the other folks here about it. Oh, and if you really get to like this thread, it won't hurt to read this thread from the beginning so you'll know who's who and what's what.

Folks on this thread usually try to be very polite, so its no good to try to 'trash' any one who does not agree with you. If they don't like you, they just won't talk to you anymore. (If you get real bad, the Administrator/Mods might ban you from this website.) If Sleeper, or his pal Milton, gets mad at you, he just won't answer any more of your questions. Sleeper is tempermental, I should know. (Typically human.)

So, good luck, and...

Thanks again!


PS: My advice for everyone has always been: Don't believe anything anyone tells you unless you can prove it for yourself. If you can't prove it for yourself, it is merely speculation, nothing more.


[edit on 2/15/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X


PS: My advice for everyone has always been: Don't believe anything anyone tells you unless you can prove it for yourself. If you can't prove it for yourself, it is merely speculation, nothing more.


[edit on 2/15/2007 by Rudolph_X]


first of all, your statement doesnt make any sense. there are many things that i know to be true and have no way to prove it for myself.

also about your advice; im not sure i remember anyone asking you for any.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 06:01 PM
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This is my first post sleeper ever anywhere. So if I'm in wrong place doing this please forgive me. My question is can Milton take me for a ride? Thanks. Art
ps I'm 54 years old and I believe your posts.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by art7450
This is my first post sleeper ever anywhere. So if I'm in wrong place doing this please forgive me. My question is can Milton take me for a ride? Thanks. Art
ps I'm 54 years old and I believe your posts.


Hello art7450...and welcome.

I recently began posting on ATS also, though I have occasionally posted elsewhere. Nice to see new faces...especially another old one.


Peace &
Good Fortune
OBE1



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by art7450
This is my first post sleeper ever anywhere. So if I'm in wrong place doing this please forgive me. My question is can Milton take me for a ride? Thanks. Art
ps I'm 54 years old and I believe your posts.



Hello art,

Milton type entities take people into space on a regular basis, for a number of reasons but mostly to familiarize them with space in preparation for their next assignment somewhere in one of the billions of star systems in this galaxy.

This training can begin during childhood or near the end of the person’s time here, or anywhere in between.

You have been out there more than once and you will be out there many more times before you get your final traveling papers off this rock.

There is no final frontier, life exist as far as the mind can conceive in this endless and very real universe---for those that don’t waste this time and place while here the trip from earth will be mind blowing beyond description. Many get the full tour of this solar system before they leave it, and it’s all free.

For now any trip one gets is blanked out completely for most---until the final exit when the illusions of this life fall away and are replaced with the reality that we belong to the most fantastic family of beings in a vast galactic wonderland.

Forgive me for watering down my description of what is really out there; don’t want to be accused of hyperbole---



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 08:43 PM
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How many stories do we need? How many photographs does it take for us to finally say "Yes, there is some # happening, what are we going to do about it?" I read a book that detailed, year-by-year, all of the major sightings that occured and the military/government response (which was usually to send out fighter jets to intercept a craft) beginning in early 1940's, before Roswell. It is called "UFOs and the National Security State" by Richard Dolan. It was fascinating to read about so many incidents that were categorically denied by our government, even after witnesses saw the craft AND the fighter jets sent to, I don't know, shoot them out of the sky or something. Sleeper may be telling the truth, or actually not telling anything except that he/she knows Something, and a whole lot of mysterious conjecture. We need to cut through the bull# here- if we were to dismiss even 75% of the internet "info" as bunk, which it is likely, that still leaves a HUGE amount of evidence. THe number of sightings by multiple witnesses is STAGGERING. We should be skeptic about a lot of it, because people are out to distract, and there is also the lunatic fringe that want to recount every flying dream as an abduction experience. But, that still leaves a vast community of folks that have had experiences that are remarkably similar to each other. These are not just the farmers in BFE that are the butt of many UFO jokes, but credible people in highly populated places that have seen things or have even been contacted by the "visitors" (I use quotes because I believe they have always been here), and those voices need to be heard. All we can really do is listen to what people say or write, and be open and intuitive. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If it sounds credible, it may be, or it may be a way to distract us from a deeper truth.



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