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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 03:28 PM
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Sleeper,

During lunch with student driver daughter, I quoted your "we are here Not to change, but be changed by the world" line and she stopped, paused, stared, said: 'Wow....paused,,,can I have twenty bucks?

She is way into "Final Fantacy" and all of those very popular video games, which I admit I am beginning to think maybe a preparation simulation of the strategy and battles their generation may have to face. Many beings, many talents, lots of deferred gratification and saving for future stuff imbedded along with split second decisions....

Are these games more than just entertainment?

Which one of Milton's friends imparted these ideas into programmers, I say its Hector. LOL

Thank you for the "its a 100% mental" line....I know this feels right.

Just as the fog lifts a bit for me, I get this whoa!!! bazillions of stars, planets, beings, dimensions, etc and all of it being connected....which I also know somehow is true...I think I'll lie down for awhile.

I also wonder, if we all have a Milton (with or with out the bag of chips upgrade), is this a part of that "You are never alone" mantra I read and hear constantly.? ,,,sorry Gretta Garbo....




posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 03:42 PM
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WOW! Muse - what a great question - - - - oh - and insight.



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by muse801
Sleeper,

During lunch with student driver daughter, I quoted your "we are here Not to change, but be changed by the world" line and she stopped, paused, stared, said: 'Wow....paused,,,can I have twenty bucks?

She is way into "Final Fantacy" and all of those very popular video games, which I admit I am beginning to think maybe a preparation simulation of the strategy and battles their generation may have to face. Many beings, many talents, lots of deferred gratification and saving for future stuff imbedded along with split second decisions....

Are these games more than just entertainment?

Which one of Milton's friends imparted these ideas into programmers, I say its Hector. LOL

Thank you for the "its a 100% mental" line....I know this feels right.

Just as the fog lifts a bit for me, I get this whoa!!! bazillions of stars, planets, beings, dimensions, etc and all of it being connected....which I also know somehow is true...I think I'll lie down for awhile.

I also wonder, if we all have a Milton (with or with out the bag of chips upgrade), is this a part of that "You are never alone" mantra I read and hear constantly.? ,,,sorry Gretta Garbo....



Hey, I'm a hardcore gamer here. Some of us game for mental escape from this dull world. Games got aliens, magic, just about any kind of fantasy you can think of. The being in my avatar (The One Winged Angel) is a final boss in final fantasy 7 that could destroy the world with one summon and by doing so would absorb the life force of the planet making him number the one being. I think you find out later the final boss sephiroth was being kind of controlled by his mum an alien with a soul purpose of manipulating and destorying all life. Japanese games are most of the time about saving the world and American games focus on nasty WW2 games, realistic killing, nonfantasy.

Now on to my question

Sleeper are transexuals switched souls? Like boy in female body and girl in female body.



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X
You know, I can even see myself holding that book in my hands and looking at the front cover, which in my mind’s eye, has John’s avatar up in the top right hand corner above the title. John might consider writing it in a way that could be easily adapted to a documentary style type movie or video, so it could be accessible to ordinary folks who usually don’t like to read. They could just watch the video.

So, Sleeper, does Milton think that such a book/video by John would be worth while?
Thanks again.


I don’t know about Milton but I think it’s a great idea.



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
QUESTION: just because I am sitting here looking at my Original copy of Above Top Secret by Timothy Good.
Have you ever read it? Do you have any comments.
Oh - and John Lear - - do you have any comments regarding the book?


I read parts of if many moons ago, I have many books and I know it’s in one of my bookshelves. He has my book, he and Linda Moulton and some other ufologist have ordered direct from me years ago. How’s that for a shameful plug---



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
How’s that for a shameful plug---


Heh. I'm thinking, "How's that for a Freudian Slip?"

Its actually "shameless plug". "shameful" changes the meaning in that context in a weird way.

You might want to consider editing that.



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:28 PM
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I Love It! You can be Shameful anytime!

Yeah - I've only read parts of it too (Above Top Secret).

It is rare that I am so fascinated by a book that I can't put it down.

OH! Did I just challenge you?



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by muse801Sleeper,

During lunch with student driver daughter, I quoted your "we are here Not to change, but be changed by the world" line and she stopped, paused, stared, said: 'Wow....paused,,,can I have twenty bucks?


Profound quotes aside, and bottom line, did she get the twenty?---lol



She is way into "Final Fantacy" and all of those very popular video games, which I admit I am beginning to think maybe a preparation simulation of the strategy and battles their generation may have to face. Many beings, many talents, lots of deferred gratification and saving for future stuff imbedded along with split second decisions....

Are these games more than just entertainment?


For the most part they are strictly entertainment, mixed in with a tad of desensitization, and to a certain extent mind expansion.

Our generation grew up watching “Father Knows Best”, “My Three Sons” “Leave it to Beaver”, “The Partridge Family”, etc.

Did those shows prepare us for what was coming? ----Vietnam War, the Age of Aquarius, free love, and a drug culture----more like a rude awakening---





I also wonder, if we all have a Milton (with or with out the bag of chips upgrade), is this a part of that "You are never alone" mantra I read and hear constantly.? ,,,sorry Gretta Garbo....


Everyone has a companion, who do you think is taking notes for the deposition at checkout time---



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lady-X
Sleeper are transexuals switched souls? Like boy in female body and girl in female body.



Transsexuals are in the correct body, they are simply unconventional while on this plain of existence---it’s not a soul issue, it’s more of a character choice that some get to make when entering this world---some get to make---not all



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by MrPenny

Heh. I'm thinking, "How's that for a Freudian Slip?"

Its actually "shameless plug". "shameful" changes the meaning in that context in a weird way.

You might want to consider editing that.


Thanks MrPenny,

But it was not a Freudian slip, it was intentional, and it was shameful---but I will get over it---



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 11:45 PM
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sleeper, i know this milton guy is cool, but correct me if im wrong in thinking that if i ever see a flying saucer or some EBE's, little green men, reptilians, im gonna run like hell, lol. i think it would be crazy to say that abductions havent happened and they must suck, lol. have you ever watched the movie about or heard of travis walton (www.travis-walton.com)???????????

stories like travis's are way to common, there must be truth to it. thousands (probably more) of people are taken yearly by these "little green bastards".

what does milton say about these type of ext. biological beings?

are all life forms that look like that evil? are some good?




posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by moderndayHanSolo
sleeper, i know this milton guy is cool, but correct me if im wrong in thinking that if i ever see a flying saucer or some EBE's, little green men, reptilians, im gonna run like hell, lol.


If you see one of those entities you will not be able to run



i think it would be crazy to say that abductions havent happened and they must suck, lol.


Abductions happen often and most people would rather not talk about it when it happens to them----it’s an experienced unlike anything they are use to, and most cannot handle it.




have you ever watched the movie about or heard of travis walton (www.travis-walton.com)???????????


I have and most of it was accurate, except they didn’t drop him off naked, as they showed him towards the end of the movie.



stories like travis's are way to common, there must be truth to it. thousands (probably more) of people are taken yearly by these "little green bastards".


Stories like Travis’ are true, but I haven’t seen a green one yet, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.



what does milton say about these type of ext. biological beings?


If you met Milton you and most anyone else would have an intestinal meltdown and would most likely go into shock---ETs are mind altering strange super entities that are really not designed for casual human interfacing


are all life forms that look like that evil? are some good?



Evil is anything that we are afraid of and don’t understand---most super entities are not evil---they are simply unfathomable

Nevertheless the picture I painted of Milton and the galaxy we exist in is accurate once we upgrade to a higher version of mental software---however, ETs don’t give that upgrade out willy-nilly



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 10:01 AM
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I finished reading your Shrouded Chronicles and only spotted a few typo's lol not bad.

You look like a nice guy and I am waiting patiently for your other book to arrive.

Maybe you should chance your name here from Sleeper to The Wise Man j/k don't need you getting a big head now do we.

p.s. you need to chance those glasses you do.

My best



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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Hi Sleeper,

My son would like to ask Milton if he can make dinosaurs and are there any dinosaur planets we could visit? He would also like to take a ride in his spaceship.



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
Nevertheless the picture I painted of Milton and the galaxy we exist in is accurate...


Hello Sleeper.

Thanks for your comments.

Come on Sleeper, give us a break, if you painted a picture of Milton, we surely would like to see it! A picture is worth a thousand words, and yes we want to see your painting of what Milton's ET form looks like. We'd also like to see images of what Milton's orb form looks like as well. Indeed, any type of exotic drawings of places you've visited, of cool UFOs, and of aliens you've seen is something I'm sure most folks here would like to see. Certainly you must have made some sketches and drawings?

Thanks again.


[edit on 2/11/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by observe50
I finished reading your Shrouded Chronicles and only spotted a few typo's lol not bad.

You look like a nice guy and I am waiting patiently for your other book to arrive.

Maybe you should chance your name here from Sleeper to The Wise Man j/k don't need you getting a big head now do we.


Thanks for the feed back! You did notice in the book that I said my wife does her best to keep me humble---lol Believe me I’m not all that and a bag of chips. When my daughter was in fourth grade, many years ago she came home from school and use that bag of chips cliché on me, talking about some teeny bopper celebrity that was all the rave at that time. And here I am still using it.



p.s. you need to chance those glasses you do.

My best


I use to be in construction, built houses, and those glasses and several other pairs have saved my eyes from flying nails out of nail guns and wood splinters and other shrapnel in the heat of battle at constructions sites.

The pair I have now are much smaller but they too have been marred by molten copper when I was doing some rewiring in my basement and I cut into a live wire.

So my eyeglasses have served me well---



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by trelofearth
Hi Sleeper,

My son would like to ask Milton if he can make dinosaurs and are there any dinosaur planets we could visit?



Milton doesn’t make dinosaurs that’s another department. And yes there are many planets that have dinosaurs and other far more exotic creatures that are open to the intergalactic community---free of charge---only drawback is you have to provide your own transportation---or hitch a ride with someone you know with those kinds of wheels to make that kind of journey---lol



He would also like to take a ride in his spaceship.



Milton is pretty scary, is he sure he’s ready?



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X
Hello Sleeper.

Thanks for your comments.

Come on Sleeper, give us a break, if you painted a picture of Milton, we surely would like to see it! A picture is worth a thousand words, and yes we want to see your painting of what Milton's ET form looks like. We'd also like to see images of what Milton's orb form looks like as well. Indeed, any type of exotic drawings of places you've visited, of cool UFOs, and of aliens you've seen is something I'm sure most folks here would like to see. Certainly you must have made some sketches and drawings?

Thaks again.



I did take six hours of art in college but my painting and drawing skills would do no justice to what Milton looks like nor anything else I recreate through that medium.

And for some reason I hate to draw, I would rather chew on nails---



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 02:14 PM
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Hello Sleeper.

Thanks for the comments.

Too bad about the drawings. We would have liked to be able to see them. Here are some thoughts for consideration, simply to stimulate conversation, you can address as many or as few of them as you like, or tell us about anything else you might have on your mind. (Oh, and I prefer serious no nonsense comments over trite and jocular ones, of course you can be as funny as you want to if you prefer to be, thanks.)

I'm curious, human bodies are cybernetic 'containers' designed to hold only one or multiple souls? Are other non-human life forms on earth also cybernetic mechanisms, functioning without souls?

Souls can also be exchanged, taken out of the containers, and then replaced by other souls or programs for the duration of the containers life as well?

And these souls are usually put into the bodies of babies by ETs at birth, like little sprouts put into flower pots? So earth is a kind of soul plantation where souls are developed and harvested?

A souls 'free will' is paramount because without free will where would the responsibility lie? Just how important is free will? And are souls completely independent?

Why would they be interested in cultivating souls in this way? What purpose could it possibly serve to create, cultivate and harvest souls, in this way? Are other methods of 'growing souls' also available to them?

Are there entities in this universe which actually can 'eat' or otherwise integrate souls into their constitutions, and/or use souls for nourishment or as an energy source, or for 'slave' labor, or 'contract' employment and such, etc.?

In my estimations, from what I've read of your material, everything that is going on here on earth is about souls, their introduction, management, cultivation, and ultimate harvest... a sort of 'Universal Soul Plantations, Inc.', seems to be what ETs are all about? Do they, ETs and their Overlord(s), have no other purpose?

If everything ET does is about souls, then where does that leave the 'other' religions? Obsolete?

Thanks again.


[edit on 2/11/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X

I'm curious, human bodies are cybernetic 'containers' designed to hold only one or multiple souls? Are other non-human life forms on earth also cybernetic mechanisms, functioning without souls?



Only one soul per body, in the case of schizophrenics or multiple personalities it’s the same soul. Everyone has more than one facet: mad, happy, sad, all the same person but different shades of the same persona.


Souls can also be exchanged, taken out of the containers, and then replaced by other souls or programs for the duration of the containers life as well?


Against the rules, but as I have written in my book it does happen.




And these souls are usually put into the bodies of babies by ETs at birth, like little sprouts put into flower pots? So earth is a kind of soul plantation where souls are developed and harvested?


Definitely and as the soul grows it gets repotted in another container---planet



A souls 'free will' is paramount because without free will where would the responsibility lie? Just how important is free will? And are souls completely independent?


Free will is principal to our development, and regardless of our lot in life we are completely independent.





Why would they be interested in cultivating souls in this way? What purpose could it possibly serve to create, cultivate and harvest souls, in this way? Are other methods of 'growing souls' also available to them?


There are many ways to cultivate souls here on earth one only need look at the many different cultures and standards of living we have on this planet.

Earth is not unique but it’s also not the only way it’s done---there is a lot of variation, some more pleasant and some not---but not going further into other types



Are there entities in this universe which actually can 'eat' or otherwise integrate souls into their constitutions, and/or use souls for nourishment or as an energy source, or for 'slave' labor, or 'contract' employment and such, etc.?


I hear souls taste like chicken---well, maybe not.

There are no soul eaters that’s plain silly

Slave labor and contract employment---goes on in many places including here on earth.



In my estimations, from what I've read of your material, everything that is going on here on earth is about souls, their introduction, management, cultivation, and ultimate harvest... a sort of 'Universal Soul Plantations, Inc.', seems to be what ETs are all about? Do they, ETs and their Overlord(s), have no other purpose?


Managing planets is like any other high level job, there is upward mobility, so the ETs here today are not the same as those that were here in the past and so on.




If everything ET does is about souls, then where does that leave the 'other' religions? Obsolete?


Religions have their place, without them a large number of people would be lost, many in my own family.

Religion helps some get over the hump---once over the hump, the other side, things will become clear.

People with religion already believe in an afterlife, so in some respects they have an advantage over those that believe this life is it.




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