Originally posted by jaguarmike
The difference between what you and sleeper are saying is technical.
It is Existential and conscious, there is No difference, just an awareness.
We are not aliens. Our bodies are not alien. We are homo sapien (how our body originated is an alien creation). Our souls however, are a
different story. This consciousness you speak of is the thetan, the soul. And yes, it is all connected.
Can you please make reference and proof to this origin of "alien" creation. And by your theory, since We are created by aliens, then We are, thus
alien by-product, which makes Us, alien. The soul, the consciousness, okay, thanks for explaining what the concept "soul" means to you. There are
many different definitions floating around.
Like sleeper said, we've all reincarnated billions of times, and lived in all different types of worlds gaining new experiences.
Sleeper did Not state "all" of Us, there is a difference there, and it is very important.
The world out there is beautiful yes- magical even. But we can transform Earth to be the same... we won't see that goal in this lifetime, but
we will soon.
The "goal" appears whenever We say, think, believe, and act that it will.
And LOVE: Wether or not you agree, Earth is MEST- matter, energy, space, and time- and it's part of our dynamics- it's our home for now. We
can't leave it be, and move on. We have to embrace it, and create it into a paradise- it's our responsibility. Many people and groups fall short
by not granting this world beingness.
Are you enforcing this on me? "whether or Not I agree?" I suppose this can Not Be disputed since you say it is so? Space is matter and energy.
Energy is space and matter. Consciousness is energy, Everything is energy. Time is Non-Existent. Beingness is Not granted, it all ready is, it is a
realization, it is a choice.
Right now, we're on Earth. Earth is the prison where we have to grow to be accepted back into the real world.
We are consciousness, We are everywhere. We are the real world. Take responsibility and face Ourselves. We are murderers, We are rapists, We are
thieves, We are 9/11, We are Satan, We are God, We are all that is good and all that is bad, We are the ability to choose and mold Our world, Our real
world. We are choice, and to see you and I as We is choice.
Thing is, i've never liked the status quo... and the real world isn't good enough for me. This is why I support the link on my
If the "real world" is Not good enough for you, is that why you are in "Earth prison"? Is Not the real world what was just described to Be
We are all connected yes, that is our 7th and 8th dynamic in life:
As per the Scientology Handbook-
The seventh dynamic is the urge toward existence as or of spirits. Anything spiritual, with or without identity, would come under the heading of
the seventh dynamic. This is separate from the physical universe and is the source of life itself. Thus there is an effort for the survival of life
Religions are interesting stories, conscious Existence is truth. All Existence is physical, something that is Not physical is Not Existing, physical
interaction is consciousness and Existence. "Nothing" is Non-physical. Life source is life, life is the source, life is Existence. There is No
The eighth dynamic is the urge toward existence as infinity. This is also identified as the Supreme Being. This can be called the infinity
or God dynamic.
What about Outfinity? Where does this supreme Being reside?
In-finites is limited, Out-finites is unlimited.
We've all got a lot of growing to do. We're the "children" of the galaxy right now, and like sleeper said- those in control don't work on
the same basis as humans do, and have very different goals. Combine that with a very long line of experience and technology... and it's a
magnificent specimin of life.
Sleeper's status is currently Being evaluated, as are all of the words Being typed and presented by you. Status and popularity do not constitute
truth. Only truth constitutes truth. There is No control, We are free to choose to Be free. The circumstance of this planet was chosen through the
collective consciousness of the Human species and does Not involve "external" forces.
However, the soul is more magnificent.
The soul Being consciousness, yes, it is Existence.
It is our responsibility to ensure growth on all levels. Even if we have different purposes and methods to attain that goal, we have to
work. Right now that should come with making ATS bigger, stronger, and easily accessible for every case of being. We need to change up the A&U
categories to include:
To Be responsible of growth is to Not divide it into levels. We are all equal and We equally grow together Because We are all connected, thus creating
an awareness and consciousness of balance, harmony, and peace.
1) Solid proof, or video/picture/document evidence/whistleblower (I.E. a John Lear).
What about liquid proof? Proof is in the mind of the Beholder. Proof is in the thought; the thought is proof.
2) Personal experiences + stories/Contacts/Sightings
This would Be nice, if questioned and presented in a responsible manner. There are many truth seekers here. Those wishing to promote books and
personal status cause much diss-ruption.
These would definitely help to confuse people, that is, if We're looking for "evidence". Evidence is in the thought.
p.s. Turnip Truck Sleeper?? The visual on that is too much.
[edit on 13-1-2007 by jaguarmike]
[edit on 13-1-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]