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reply posted on 12-1-2007 @ 07:38 PM by seentoomuch
Originally posted by jaguarmike
I agree with Reality Hurts to a certain degree.

But it is much easier for those that are aware of these things to talk freely about their experiences/ideas than someone with little mass on the subject.

There are normally varying degrees of misinformation even from those you might deem credible, and with that said I do not mean to imply the one you deem as credible knows they are spreading misinformation.

My take on ET is that any problem we encounter here, they also encounter to a certain degree. We are all spirits in bodies, not the other way around. And for most, none of real solutions that will work to bring change for the negative condition most beings are in.

To touch back on the previous statements, those that aren't aware need to sort out between evey story and figure out what they agree with.

As for the decent skeptics, keep searching what fits into your reality.

For the idiot skeptics... ignore them. You will know when you encounter one- don't let them get to you. Probed has an entire thread where is saying he is totally at effect to all these nasty individuals- this shouldn't be the case. The ET might have visited him, but ET doesn't even have solutions for nasty people (other than send them here... lol jk... not really).

Earth the "forgotten" prison planet... it's a mishmosh of trash, criminals, awesome people, and etc. We all have different ideas, all have different timeframes (some don't know when they are), different realities... there is bound to be a conflict. On top of that, do you know how many ET races there are/have been? If we are all decendents by spirit, in that we've lived countless lives in other bodies, do you know how much of a collective memory we've accumulated with no real solution (there is a solution now--> Link Signature) to sort it out once we are born?

The world is massive, and is a beautiful place. So are the stars, and other worlds. Don't EVER feel it's for nothing or boring or stupid. Life is in you, if it's ever been in you before, it can be there again. Think of the best time you've ever experienced... someone right now is experiencing that same emotion. Remember this.

The more you grow, the more you learn, the more you will figure out- and I wish you good luck.

p.s. Sleeper someone stated above you are going through a hard time? I don't believe that But again, you know my take how to not be effected by the nasties!


[edit on 12-1-2007 by jaguarmike]


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reply posted on 12-1-2007 @ 08:17 PM by probedbygrays
every single thread gets down to proof and the absence or validity or implications of. Do we think scientists are all idiots? No they are generally people who deal in facts. They will accept aliens are real the moment there is real PROOF. Which there isn't.

So if it came down to only provable alien cases are permitted then you're going to either have a big blank space or be mocked by the hardcore scientists for entertaining fantasies.

Now for the rest of us we can choose to be believers or not, regardless of what type of evidence is presented if any. It's like the 9/11 theories. If you want to believe then you are free to do so. But if someone came forwards without proof and said they saw something taking place in those buildings then they would be believed instantly even though they had no proof.


So people are experiencing contact with aliens and they know they didn't imagine it. Heck, if we could imagine stuff like that then people could just imagine any experience at all.

In one way I wish the aliens were not real, and the things they have shown me were not true. I wish the skeptics were the intelligent ones and the aliens were all fantasy. I wish I was simply insane and had imagined the whole thing. I wish for all of your sakes that this was true. But I have to be honest to myself and of service to humanity and tell people about the aliens that are around us.

I'd like to hear Sleepers story and what he has learned. But I don't know if I can handle another few gigabytes of people demanding proof so that they can believe more.



reply posted on 12-1-2007 @ 09:05 PM by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Originally posted by sleeper
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Sleeper,

The inferences made are that there are entities called "aliens". The truth is that We are all Us.

Further, there is a statement claiming the Wright Brothers to Be extra-terrestrials.

Elaboration please.

Thanks


Dear Sleeper,

A reply would Be appreciated.

Thanks again



If you are asking if we humans are all “aliens” the answer is no.

The Wright Brothers were not ET but they knew ETs.


There was No inquisition about Humans all Being "aliens", all though the division of this planet has alienated Us amongst Ourselves.

From the perspective of another planet We very well are "aliens", and most of the time even to Ourselves while living on this planet.

We are Extra-terrestrial as viewed from Mars.

This would surmise that the Wright Brothers were indeed E.T. by matters of an Omnified perspective.

It is Not very difficult to look at a bird and begin figuring out flight.

What about Da Vinci? And those Chinese who were all ready working on flight and had invented large kites long before the Wright Brothers?

So We now see that the Wright Brothers are E.T.'s and that in fact all of Us are more "Extra-terrestrial" than "terrestrial". Earth is the only place that We are viewed as "terrestrial", everywhere else would have us called "extra-terrestrials", this of course only by the standards Being presented in the previous post.

Still curious as to what "race" of "E.T's" it was that it is said they "knew".

Elucidation, please.

Thanks,
The reply was appreciated,
Gratitudes

[edit on 12-1-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



reply posted on 12-1-2007 @ 10:01 PM by Chrysalis
I got the feeling this is going to turn interesting and funny, interesting because of what Sleeper is gonna say, and funny because of the desperate attempts by a certain category of readers to get this thread closed.

Since we're all sitting here waiting for Sleeper to put his blog up, i might take some time to losen up a few things.

The Scientist
He is THE man, he's been to Science School, you really got to trust this guy because he knows his stuff, who else would.
But don't be affraid by his looks, we know he kinda lives in his own reality, so obsessed by his research. He's got the bad habit of neglecting his personal hygiene, but what the hell, he's sacrificing his body odour for the greater good.

The Research
So there we find our hero in his lab, mixing random chemicals or whatever in his tubes, his scalp half burnt by his last experiments. But suddenly, thanks to his scientific empiric (doing random stuff until something good comes out of it) approach, he discovers a new material/molecule/whatever !!!
He's very excited but you won't see any stain on his pants because scientists have a very low testosterone level anyway, we all know that.
But he's got to tell his friends (which are all scientists of course, due to their relationship problem with anything else).

Scientific community
Well, his friends besides beeing jealous and kinda skeptic start asking where is the proof. He just says "look, it is here, it's proof".
But the scientific community knows better : unless it gets published on Nature or Science, it's all BS.
And they want this new toy for themselves too so they ask for a demonstration and a method. If they can't reproduce it for themselves then it's all crap.

Recognition
After much efforts, our hero scientist gets his discovery confirmed by his pairs and then sets off to go get international recognition (the money, the booze and the chicks), after all this luck err %$!§ WORK.
But then he gets addicted on dope and needs more cash, so he goes find some industrials who have no clue about his stuff, but since the scientist says it, then its got to be true.


Hmmm ok, i guess there's only one word for what just happened : Sorry.
But that proof thing makes me go nuts.
I've seen so many silly stuff coming from skeptics i just don't understand.
When someone comes upfront with an account of an event, he gets asked more questions about himself than about the event itself.
I understand some might want solid credentials but it becomes silly when an account is considered more believable when it comes from a christian.
Don't laugh, I've seen it many times.
And this thing about mixing ufology with religion...
Talking about proof, where is the proof of god, the proof of the soul, the proof for parallel universes ?
Ufology, today is that, a theory, a conspiracy but its there and you can't deny it.
Just as sometimes scientists know something is possible but can't prove it *yet*, a big part of us know that there's something out there, we know it in our heart, in our guts.
I don't know, but if you skeptics can't believe there could be life out there on another planet, just look at yourself, we are the best proof that it's possible.


reply posted on 12-1-2007 @ 10:05 PM by sleeper
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal


There was No inquisition about Humans all Being "aliens", all though the division of this planet has alienated Us amongst Ourselves.

From the perspective of another planet We very well are "aliens", and most of the time even to Ourselves while living on this planet.

We are Extra-terrestrial as viewed from Mars.


The connotations of the words like extraterrestrial and UFO are usually incorrect and have little to do with the entities that are visiting earth from far away places or other dimensions.

ETs are not human they are something very different, they have powers beyond description and they are not here to experiment on us or out of simple curiosity---those are human type traits.


This would surmise that the Wright Brothers were indeed E.T. by matters of an Omnified perspective.


Many humans had ET mentors as did the Wright Brothers.


It is Not very difficult to look at a bird and begin figuring out flight.


NASA with all their techno toys tried to duplicate what the Wright Brothers did and failed.


What about Da Vinci? And those Chinese who were all ready working on flight and had invented large kites long before the Wright Brothers?


They also had ET mentors but only achieved what they were allowed to achieve.

Airplanes and everything we call leading edge technology has always existed--- thousands, millions, and billions of years ago throughout the galaxy---they are only new toys for earth.

So We now see that the Wright Brothers are E.T.'s and that in fact all of Us are more "Extra-terrestrial" than "terrestrial". Earth is the only place that We are viewed as "terrestrial", everywhere else would have us called "extra-terrestrials", this of course only by the standards Being presented in the previous post.


Many of us have been on the turnip truck more than once---reincarnation from other planets, so your statement is true.
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