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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:54 PM
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Mrpenny,

Yes you are being civil now and thank you.

But I was talking about the past.

And now it is twice I have commended you on you civility just on this page alone so lets call it even........


[edit on 16-1-2008 by Izarith]




posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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Thank you MrPenny for getting Sleeper back on the field. no it's not sarcastic. well, maybe just a little... no, I mean it, actually.

welcome back Sleeper.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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sleeper:

I'm glad your back!!! Not sure how permanent your stay will be, but I hope it's for a long time.

I was ready and prepared to throw in the towel here at ATS. Your post stopped me from deleting my link to this thread. Good thing I hesitated for a few days, hoping you would return.

Don't waste your precious time responding to MrPenny. He is "too high" above us all, and is quite condescending. I don't like down talk, and that is the feeling I get from his posts.

The non-believers are not seasoned in this topic and don't have their minds open enough. Once they have had something extraterrestrial happen to them, then maybe they will understand your perspective.

I’m sure the Mods realized your immense value to their site, and didn’t want to loose you to other competing web sites. That’s why the thread remained open, and also why they reached out to you. Smart move on the Mods part!!! They managed to save themselves.

I hope to continue reading your posts, and also hope to gain insight and knowledge in to things that normal humans do not understand….things I don't understand. Things that are "out of this world".

I may even have a few questions to post, but not yet. I have to formulate them first.

On Topic: I’m glad that ET’s are around to persuade ATS to reach out to Sleeper. Milton must have been pressuring ATS to bring him back.

Welcome back! (Hey, now we can also enjoy Mr. Lear's posting again! It's a 2 for 1 sale....Sleeper & Lear! Can it get better than that?)

-EyesII

[edit on 16-1-2008 by EyesII]



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by EyesII
He is "too high" above us all, and is quite condescending. [AND] The non-believers are not seasoned in this topic and don't have their minds open enough.


It's gotta' be one or the other dude. Can't have it both ways. Either I'm condescending and you're not....or we both are.

I responded previously to a "probing" question from sleeper...and I'm still waiting for some kind of reaction. Hmmmm?



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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G'day Sleeper, hope you're well


What would you say to people here if you suddenly realised they (people here) saw you as their spiritual leader, so to speak? I mean, you have a fair few followers on this site who believe what you say without question and there is a scientology feel to a lot of what you say, which is why I ask (I know you are not affiliated with scientology b.t.w).

Also, why you would stop posting if this thread was moved to Skunkworks? Do you feel it would give the thread less worth? Surely that wouldn't matter to those who believe you? These are honest questions for you, Sleeper, I've no agenda.

Glad to see you've not left the forum too



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 05:00 PM
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You got a greased tiger by the tail there Izarith. I would let go. I don’t know if he bites but he sure is slippery.

The only reason Sleeper may be back is because he didn’t want to be responsible for a group of misfit wanta be rock stars called The Miltons. Well maybe not the only reason.

I vote we take the rest of the week off, delete the last 2 pages and start over fresh Monday.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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You all can blame John Lear for me coming back, he is holding Milton hostage and threatening to model this summer’s bikini lineup in front of him---it could get ugly. No offence John you are a great guy and all but the bikini clash with your manly physique big time and Milton could go into some kind of alien shock, and believe me we don’t want that.



Kidding aside John takes a lot of heat for some outlandish things he stands behind including me. But that's because John has been there and done a lot more than they let him remember. And like all abductees even though he can't remember details he still knows.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Corum
G'day Sleeper, hope you're well


What would you say to people here if you suddenly realised they (people here) saw you as their spiritual leader, so to speak? I mean, you have a fair few followers on this site who believe what you say without question and there is a scientology feel to a lot of what you say, which is why I ask (I know you are not affiliated with scientology b.t.w).


Hi Corum

I would tell them to send me money because Milton is no cheap upkeep---and as long as I keep putting food into him he gives me enlightenment---so come on people if you want more knowledge send some there coins. Perhaps ATS will set up an escrow account for this endeavor---


That’s playful sarcasm not meant to offend, but there is no other way to answer that question


Also, why you would stop posting if this thread was moved to Skunkworks? Do you feel it would give the thread less worth? Surely that wouldn't matter to those who believe you? These are honest questions for you, Sleeper, I've no agenda.


This thread is about extraterrestrials. I know that many people can’t get their minds around that possibility but if I didn’t know that they are here and doing the things I have stated then I would post somewhere else.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by tommyknockers

The only reason Sleeper may be back is because he didn’t want to be responsible for a group of misfit wanta be rock stars called The Miltons. Well maybe not the only reason.


Can you blame me tom? I watched that preview that you put on U-tube


Still, that was a mean guitar you had going there



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by MrPenny
I responded previously to a "probing" question from sleeper...and I'm still waiting for some kind of reaction. Hmmmm?


Here is another probing question. You don’t come to my threads for enlightenment, which is a good thing because as you know I have none to give. Enlightenment comes for higher up and most people who come here know that.

All I do is tell people to do pushups

So drop and give me a thousand pushups


Oh, I almost forgot, the probing question---are you here to save those who come to this thread from doing their pushups?

No offence but I’m only here to give out pushup instructions and since you are not here for those kinds of exercises please don’t take offence if I don’t reply to your posts---at least not until you are ready for some workouts



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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Sleeper, glad you came back. Or should I thank John for his nimble hostage caper? (It's a dirty job but somebody had to do it).

Just to stay on topic, I'll ask a question: about 4 pages back or so some person posted you a question about the legitimacy of conspiracies (listing them all) and you basically said they are all bollocks. (I don't think the mods cared for that.) You even negated MK-ultra which is a well-known and well-documented government project that is out in the open. How do you explain this discrepency? Are you saying that conspiracies are not real or just that the information about them is incorrect or incomplete? Or perhaps you are saying that reality is what you make it; thoughts create reality? Mass psychosis? Holographic inserts or hijacked memories?

Please elucidate...

Thanks,
Chutso



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Well, I suppose you're unwilling or unable to respond to my answer....after all, it was you making the accusations of my having multiple accounts.

Whatever.....at least your fans are happy now. Have fun "enlightening".



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 07:20 PM
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Hey Sleeper, glad things are resolved enough to bring you back. You were missed. I also wanted to add that you've given me a huge amount of entertainment and eye opening perspective shift over the last year. I'm greatly appreciative of your efforts on this board.

BTW, most do not worship Sleeper. He's more like an on-line penpal/friend who dishes the meat on the way things are. I believe we all question his sanity from time to time, but always appreciate the message.

Back on topic: Did our govt. ever have "looking glass" technology in which to see the future or possible futures? Is so, is it still in use?

Are their really time traveling aliens called P45 and P52 types? P45 meaning beings that have come back from 45,000 years in the future and P52 meaning back from 52,000 years? This is in reference to some info from a Project Camelot video of Dan Burisch. Dan has some tales to tell. He describes a lot of details of the P9 conference where we negotiated with a few different alien races. You've mentioned no negotiation or agreements have ever been forged by our govt. with ET since ET can do what they want and don't have to sign any agreements. They're in charge. What's puzzling is how vivid and believable Dan comes off telling his stories. I truly think he believes what he's saying, but it doesn't jive with your info. Do you think he's misguided? I found it very entertaining. But when he said he shoved the ET through the stargate, I didn't really believe that.
Dan Burisch - Project Camelot Interview
Many of the Project Camelot videos are fairly convincing, but don't agree with your insider knowledge. Why the different messages floating around about what's really going on? Are there people being implanted with disinformation and the person programmed can't tell the different between their implanted knowledge or the real deal going on...

It's similar to Chutso's question about how something like MK Ultra which is fairly well documented to have occured....didn't exist from your info? Is some stuff like MK Ultra totally disinformation? Weird if it is because it seems like it makes our govt. look bad and why would that be created for a bad impression?

Anyway, welcome back.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 08:20 PM
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Hey Sleeper,

Little business before I ask you the big ones...duh duh dunnnnnnnn!
(all brass) BTW, somehow I just knew it was outside business and a little break--knock it off, you have real work to do here...LOL.

Tommyknockers, divorce has/is an inevitable way of waking one up.

Mr. Penny, I too have studied the past enlightenment (for lack of a better word) philosophies and religious practices. Aside from the basic word jargon, Sleeper's signals deviate radically from all of them....re-read his works and the hints and clues are all over the place..drip, drip, drip...

Outside of that excepted traditional faithful jargon, which Sleeper uses brilliantly to seduce our present egocentric myopia, he asks us to look into a mirror and then his messages cracks open what lies underneath.

Like all great Earth humans have said: "Every possible thing that one can imagine is real and true." Thomas Edison, et al.

Penny, you, our scientists and scholars use earthly logic (sadly, being disproved daily) that is based on twisted history and political peer preasured thoughts. Maybe this whole thing called earth is a minute fraction of this solar system, much less our galaxy, and even the infinate universes that exist in one dimension or another....HUGE BABY,,,,could be a wake up call!

Noone can proove it, so look in a mirror and marvel at your existance--right now! You big cutie! You'll get but a fragment of Sleeper's message. Yea, and get a second opinion too.

Sleeper,

can you imagine, I had a tremendous mind dump post cancelled out by ATS last night, Hmmm ....I think it was my reference to a posters views as being premature ejaculations....LOL I thought it was pretty funny and meant it as descriptive language..

Sorry Mods, I understand, won't happen again--love the "we don't do that" avatar--Sister Mary Hillary.

Sleeper,

Is our present earth existances/dimensions dictated primarily by our galaxy set of rules or is it a straight line directive from the bigger ups in this particular universe or universes?

Are the same bottom line "get along" dictates the same for ALL universes/dimensions?

On Earth, right now, are we suppose to overcome and balance out the good and bad by creating good, or is this just a huge game of opposite attraction to see what happens?

Okay, so we choose to keep coming back or around to earth, sometimes "kicking and screaming", vacation or not, It's cold in Chicago....is there some reason for us to be here now?

Can you lay any credence on those who say we are here to witness a very special anamoly about to occur?

Whistle blowers are leaking or lieing. It is obvious that our tech is going through the roof. Just got use to the basic CD tech and that seems to be a gonner in the next 3 years. You mentioned the tech that will keep us going for a long time, please elaborate.

You also elude that it is important to watch our politicians (unprecedented USA race right now),,,,Why?

Thanks Sleep



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 11:25 PM
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Thank you john and SkepticOverlord---
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Hello Sleeper,

Glad to see you post, was john sad that he was the only one wearing a tin foil hat--


Can you say when humanity will come to a spiritual awakness, a long time from now?

When humans reach outside of earth and inhabit planets in this solar system will we be made up of hybrids of sorts or tuned-up humans--



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 12:01 AM
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Hello sleeper, I have read through all of the threads (both extremely insightful and informative from you, and from the moronic flabbergasters bottom feeders post) (not to sound angry).

I am proud to be able to talk to be able to message you in person, and ever since reading, I am trying to live by your ideals (love, kindness, integrity).

The worst part is trying to come up with a question.

First is, not to sound ignorant, tell Milton I said hi, and how do you know hes not lying about 2012 (because something might happen according to all the gurus,but id rather believe Milton)?

And from your story, how fast can his spaceship travel, faster than light, if so, since its not a breach of national security, what is it?

And besides love, kindess, and integrity, what else can one strive to get higher up?

Does Milton like hard liquor or beer?



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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Mr Penny, why are you even posting on this thread?

You should go count something or slice up onions, because thats the only thing that makes you useful (in a nice way), Rachel Ray needs an assistant.

I cant beleive I wasted time to post this response to you, the real time on here should be asking serious questions to Sleeper and not questioning his credibility, or insult him, etc, or just by being Mr Penny.

I still need to think of new questions, ill keep on posting sleeper!!!!!



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 03:33 AM
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Hey Sleeper !!!!!!

I realise that you will not be able to post in this forum forever, but can you make us all one promise?

When you do decide to hang up the keyboard can you go out by typing a post containing all of the secret black ops stuff that you do not normally talk about?

That will generate another 300 pages of discussion long after you have stopped posting.



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 04:16 AM
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Hi GreenRobot (cc Sleeper)

I am glad you asked that question, as I found Dan Burisch's interview interesting. And your question and mine do overlap, so maybe Sleeper can address them globally.

This guy - Dan seemed a little kooky to me, but he had interesting information to bring to the table. (I believe Sleeper saw this interview, or part of it?) I have long suspected that there are future travelers interacting with certain inhabitants in order to insert one or several new potential(s) into our current planetary paradigm. This seems to be what the so-called "galactic battle" is about. ETs do have the technology to insert paradigm shifts through various means. They do it as easily as we can cut and paste in a Word document. I believe John Lear also believes in ET and black ops using holographic inserts, going as far as saying that 911 was just such an insert. (I agree, although we may not agree on the source)

Basically, I am 99,9% sure that there is a galactic battle taking place on earth that is done through holographic inserts and/or hyperspace memory implants. Some of the inserts are implanted as decoys and scrambling devices to keep us from realizing the truth or to mask our purpose and others are used to cause paradigm shifts. There seems to be two primary agendas competing (like everything on this planet, there are always two teams).

Here is where I get disconnected.. There is a certain channel out there that I previously ascribed to who says that Earth was designed to be not only a galactic library of consciousness, but a universal one, and that it was coded (on the sly) so that even the "owners" (master geneticists) of this planet couldn't access it at certain spiritual levels. According to this source of information, certain entities want to restore Earth to its "original purpose" of being a cosmic library of information, and they are doing this by coming back from the past to insert a different awareness onto the planet. This is where my belief system diverges from Sleeper's in a certain sense. But I acknowledge that there is something more to it that I am not grasping and I believe it has to do with a distortion in memories. On the whole, I am not worried about it, because in the end "it isn't the memories that count, but our actions in life".
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This part is to Sleeper:
You have said there are two primary groups fighting over Earth. You said that they basically want the same thing but by different means. Can you elaborate on what that is and how their methods differ? And how does this tie in with Dan Burisch's version of the time travellers and holographic inserts or hyperspace memory implants?

Why do conspiracies exist?

I know I am asking big questions, but I hear Milton really wants you to make that bonus this year! ;-)

Cheers,
Chutso



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 05:29 AM
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Edit: deletion due to double post (see below)

[edit on 17/1/08 by chutso_ha]



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