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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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Sleeper wrote:

"...My body was custom made for me as is true for everyone who gets a body..."

Boy... I think I got screw**ed. I've never, ever, managed to get that last 20 lbs off. No matter how hard I've dieted / worked out.

You'd think they could could at least send us all down to this rock with that tweaked metabolism. You know...those people we all knowthat can eat anything, anytime and never gain an ounce.

I want an upgrade if I gotta come back!

Raf




posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 01:43 PM
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Hi Sleeper!


  • Do high up ETs monitor this thread?

  • Humans have free will. Do souls also have free will?

  • When souls are on a vacation here on earth do they chose who to incarnate into and choose to have their human brain suppress memory of past lives?. For example: any one of us could be on vacation right now without even knowing it - even those who are in 3rd world contries (I'd imagine some souls may want to take a vacation to experience what it is like to be in poverty in a 3rd world country)



  • posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 09:07 PM
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    Originally posted by sleeper

    Originally posted by zenfish


    Anyway it’s a metaphor for killing the pagan gods that ruled over all the land of Canaan---the Israelite were told to kill all these beliefs and consolidate their belief into one all powerful god---one not of this world.

    Sodom and Gomorra represented the orgy of mankind with his multi deity perversions---they fornicated with gods of the earth---the rain god, the solar god, the god of Tupperware parties,---they had every conceivable god known to man and animal, and then some---and the word fornication was used to describe the obsession with the cesspool of gods that the people of Canaan tarnished themselves in.

    Sodom and Gomorra was not a real place---it was a symbol for the lust over paganistic gods that was rampant in Canaan at the time.


    I know that pantheism is often misunderstood by those of montheistic backgrounds as a belief in many gods, but it is actually the worship of one god in its many different aspects. For instance, if you need water, you don't go to a gravel pit. You go to a lake, etc. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but are you saying that ET, in their attempts to evolve mankind, convinced the Israelites to get rid of all the pagan practices in the land of Canaan, which was described as an orgiastic fornication with multiple beliefs in multiple gods and ET wanted them to only believe in only one god - a god not of this world?

    Then, through time, it was twisted and misunderstood by mankind to mean fornicating itself was sinful and became a thing of shame for many intersted in the spiritual in today's world.

    I think almost all religions and spiritual paths have a big double-wide red flag on the issue.

    Does ET think there are any healthy moral guidelines, or is all the fornicating and bopping going on out there in this ever increasingly hedonistic society just alright with our evolutionary escorts?

    It seems to be a big issue with east meeting west.

    I'm not arguing, just trying to get a clear picture of what you say is ET's position on the matter.


    Some of those pagan rituals used human child sacrifice---and that was pure evil


    No doubt, but a lot of pantheism would be dead against this sort of practice. IT seems to me that you are saying ET is leading mankind away from all worship of any god by first getting us to a - one god not of this world - idea. Then eventually boiling it down to living life with integrity and seeing what happens, rather than having a pre-conceived belief about what the truth, or god, is. Something like that? Then each individual will have to discover what would be sexually integral for themselves.



    posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 11:47 PM
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    Australia was a base for very high up entities that didn’t require human sacrifice type structures, or any physical structures, they worked from their huge ships that are cities in themselves. The big ships don’t park there any more but the smaller ones still do.



    Good lord man are you saying that some higher entities do require human sacrifice?



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:03 AM
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    Hello Sleeper !!!!!!!!!

    Is it too late to sign up to be a scientist in Antarctica? Are you able to hint at what is there? Is it a left behind technologies?

    Out of curiosity what sort of tasks did the people of the big ships preform in Australia all those years ago?

    How come the ET doesn’t recover the things that the Black Ops get hold of? Surely that would be an easy task for them.

    We have heard the stories of the missile silos being shut down. Did the ET do anything more impressive that we did not hear about?

    Also with the moon objects. Are you saying that Japan and China will find nothing with their satellites as most of the 'anomalies' have been removed?

    If not everything has been removed, who prevents them to not disclose what they film?

    Do ET craft often take on the appearance of our aircraft and helicopters? There have been a lot of strange sightings lately.

    Many thanks for your answers

    [edit on 27-11-2007 by Cyber_Wasp]



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:33 AM
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    Hello Sleeper,

    From reading this last page of this tread I'm getting the feeling the cat has loosened the grip on your tong.......


    If so can we get your blog part #2 PLEAS!!?..........


    After reading this thread for a few weeks, and trying to learn from it, weird things started to happen. Just normal every day things really but they were and are way to close to this thread.

    Little kids telling me about there imaginary friends, old retired men wearing jogging cloths walking up to me and talking about life and how I need to be a winner, Navy Seals talking about their essay on integrity, a group of devout christians talking about how the devil did it and much more.

    As for tonight imagine you just had one of the worst days in cab driving history.......a day you make 20 bucks......

    And three of them go to re fill the tank.........

    As your driving home trying to cheer yourself up you turn on the radio you put the volume on blast and this song comes on.


    Google Video Link


    You got to love the end solo, it will cheer you up.........


    Sleeper do ET's leave a breadcrumb trail for us?

    If so is it about what we are trying to work on? Trying to understand?

    How do ET's get this crumb trail to happen so easy if there are so many things involved?

    If we become aware that the crumbs we pick up and eat are a trail is it a good thing or a bad thing?

    What ever it is it sure is fun........



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 08:34 AM
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    Originally posted by pak88
    Sleeper, earlier in this thread i ask about one of the summerian gods EA, and you said he might be hiding out. Is he consider a renegade ET?


    Not a renegade exactly but his significance concerning earth has passed, and he relishes being a myth



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 08:47 AM
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    Originally posted by curiousbeliever
    Hi Sleeper!

  • Do high up ETs monitor this thread?


  • Hi curious

    They have better things to do, I think


  • Humans have free will. Do souls also have free will?


  • There is no human without a soul, well, not many. But there are souls without human bodies. A body needs a soul, but a soul needs no body---


    Souls do have freewill, that’s about the only thing of value that is free in this world.


  • When souls are on a vacation here on earth do they chose who to incarnate into and choose to have their human brain suppress memory of past lives?.


  • Some do


    For example: any one of us could be on vacation right now without even knowing it - even those who are in 3rd world contries


    True


    (I'd imagine some souls may want to take a vacation to experience what it is like to be in poverty in a 3rd world country)


    There are no long lines for those “voluntary” type assignments so anyone wanting them can get right in



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 09:05 AM
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    Originally posted by sleeper

    Originally posted by indierockalien
    Hmmmm.... to be more specific..... black pyramids. What can you tell me about the black pyramids? Someone tells me you mentioned them somewhere, but I cannot find the reference.

    It's very hard to get information about the black pyramids. There's very little out there, but a few people I've talked to have seen what I mean... and we think they are on Mars, or a planet very similar to Mars.... not sure if it was in the past, present, or future...

    Sleeper, that someone was SURE you mentioned black pyramids in either your blog or one of your posts. If you do not wish to elaborate in public, you can U2U me.


    I don't have info on black pyramids


    Why let that stop you? You havent any info, other than what you have invented, about anything that you have posted?, why let the truth get in the way?



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 09:20 AM
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    Originally posted by zenfish
    I know that pantheism is often misunderstood by those of montheistic backgrounds as a belief in many gods, but it is actually the worship of one god in its many different aspects. For instance, if you need water, you don't go to a gravel pit. You go to a lake, etc. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but are you saying that ET, in their attempts to evolve mankind, convinced the Israelites to get rid of all the pagan practices in the land of Canaan, which was described as an orgiastic fornication with multiple beliefs in multiple gods and ET wanted them to only believe in only one god - a god not of this world?


    The Israelites failed at the plan, but in doing so the message became firmly implanted into the world.


    Then, through time, it was twisted and misunderstood by mankind to mean fornicating itself was sinful and became a thing of shame for many intersted in the spiritual in today's world.


    Yes and a sprinkle of morality was injected into the sexual arena too, for some it was a flood of morality.


    I think almost all religions and spiritual paths have a big double-wide red flag on the issue.


    Sodom and Gomorra represent a complete break down of human values, sex was only one of the values. Many religions and even secular beliefs draw from these ancient stories

    Any act that lacks integrity is evil---evil is doing wrong to others for personal benefit.


    Does ET think there are any healthy moral guidelines, or is all the fornicating and bopping going on out there in this ever increasingly hedonistic society just alright with our evolutionary escorts?


    Our evolutionary escorts set up sting operations and will rub our noses in whatever mess we make with the freedom that they give us to make our mess with.


    It seems to be a big issue with east meeting west.


    The sun rises in the East and sets in the West, literally now and into the future


    I'm not arguing, just trying to get a clear picture of what you say is ET's position on the matter.


    They are neutral, they serve as referees.


    Some of those pagan rituals used human child sacrifice---and that was pure evil

    No doubt, but a lot of pantheism would be dead against this sort of practice.


    Now days but not in the past---also there are many ways to “sacrifice” our children without butchering them on some altar


    IT seems to me that you are saying ET is leading mankind away from all worship of any god by first getting us to a - one god not of this world - idea. Then eventually boiling it down to living life with integrity and seeing what happens, rather than having a pre-conceived belief about what the truth, or god, is. Something like that? Then each individual will have to discover what would be sexually integral for themselves.


    Why not



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 09:42 AM
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    Originally posted by downtown436


    Australia was a base for very high up entities that didn’t require human sacrifice type structures, or any physical structures, they worked from their huge ships that are cities in themselves. The big ships don’t park there any more but the smaller ones still do.


    Good lord man are you saying that some higher entities do require human sacrifice?


    On a daily basis even to this day, but blood is not always spilled during modern day rituals. Instead we sell our souls for promises made by despots around the world, who wish to rule over us in exchange for being appointed our babysitters.



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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    Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
    Hello Sleeper !!!!!!!!!

    Is it too late to sign up to be a scientist in Antarctica? Are you able to hint at what is there? Is it a left behind technologies?


    It’s never too late to do anything you want, if you really want it.

    It’s an Easter day hunt unfortunately not just anybody is invited to find those golden goose eggs.


    Out of curiosity what sort of tasks did the people of the big ships preform in Australia all those years ago?


    Australia was a base camp; from there they traveled to other places on earth to keep on eye on things, and to interfere where they saw fit.


    How come the ET doesn’t recover the things that the Black Ops get hold of? Surely that would be an easy task for them.


    Whatever black ops has was given to them or left for them to find---by both sides, and there are more than two concerning both sides.


    We have heard the stories of the missile silos being shut down. Did the ET do anything more impressive that we did not hear about?


    They most certainly did


    Also with the moon objects. Are you saying that Japan and China will find nothing with their satellites as most of the 'anomalies' have been removed?


    Much has not been removed yet, and what is left behind to be found will be used behind the scenes for use on the moon by those who find them. Like the gold in California during the gold rush.


    If not everything has been removed, who prevents them to not disclose what they film?


    It’s like an average guy finding a million dollars of unmarked bills, not likely to disclose that fact---but all of a sudden he is doing things no one else is doing and driving some cool a_ss cars.


    Do ET craft often take on the appearance of our aircraft and helicopters? There have been a lot of strange sightings lately.


    They like twirly birds for some reason



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 10:31 AM
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    Originally posted by Izarith
    Hello Sleeper,

    From reading this last page of this tread I'm getting the feeling the cat has loosened the grip on your tong.......


    If so can we get your blog part #2 PLEAS!!?..........


    Maybe my tongue but my typing is not much faster---



    After reading this thread for a few weeks, and trying to learn from it, weird things started to happen. Just normal every day things really but they were and are way to close to this thread.

    Little kids telling me about there imaginary friends, old retired men wearing jogging cloths walking up to me and talking about life and how I need to be a winner, Navy Seals talking about their essay on integrity, a group of devout christians talking about how the devil did it and much more.

    As for tonight imagine you just had one of the worst days in cab driving history.......a day you make 20 bucks......

    And three of them go to re fill the tank.........

    As your driving home trying to cheer yourself up you turn on the radio you put the volume on blast and this song comes on.


    Prince is not from this world, but he is mistaken when he says “in this life you are on your own”. Some of us may wish that was true---


    Also, we get hints to move on to other things if what we are doing is not making ends meet.




    Sleeper do ET's leave a breadcrumb trail for us?


    Sometimes they leave banquets to feast on, but we are under the table looking for crumbs.


    If so is it about what we are trying to work on? Trying to understand?


    Cleaning up our act, getting edumicated and expecting more out of life is a good start


    How do ET's get this crumb trail to happen so easy if there are so many things involved?


    Like going into a candy store with a dime and trying to decide what to buy---very painful indeed.

    We need to focus on what we really want, and then realize that a dime doesn’t buy much.


    If we become aware that the crumbs we pick up and eat are a trail is it a good thing or a bad thing?


    For those who are satisfied with crumbs, it’s a bad thing, because the universe is a never ending feast.



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 11:27 AM
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    Hi Sleeper and Milton,

    If we are suppose to come to our parents, and they in this life are unavailable, will our soul just be put into someone next in line casue its time for us to come, or do have to wait till our moms are ready for us?
    Is it a package deal, we all come or nothing at all?

    You said all people who change history have had ET influnece....what about these mega cultural icons who have major influence on society with thier music, looks or behavior? Do these people like Prince, Madonna, Elvis have help in their mega success with a hidden agenda? Or just a great PR crew?

    I dont think Prince would like you revealing his secrets of not being from here...he is very private


    My son loves to read about the Jersey Devil, did he exist?

    Thanks!



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:08 PM
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    regardian the misrepresentation of the reptilians you said:



    There is truth interwoven in most things---but clarity and the real reasons remain obscure, and for most unknown, because understanding requires understanding---and that is lacking


    how can we be understanding if we don't even have the real facts with which to understand? I undersand you have a neutral stance on the reptilians and their agenda and do not fear them. Perhaps you'd care to shed light on this subject to help us understand the dynamic from a wider perspective?



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:17 PM
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    Hi Sleeper,

    You had responded to a couple of posts about ritual sacrifices of humans, and children specifically, and you mentioned that nowadays it is done differently; that there are other ways that parents sacrifice their children. Can you elaborate, please?

    Thanks,
    Chutso

    Also, a little food for thought (no pun intended):

    I live in an Islamic country and a religious ritual is coming up called L'Aiyd. L'Aiyd is a required blood sacrifice ritual performed every year in every household, wherein the head of each household must sacrifice the blood of a sheep in their household to show their faith in Allah. (This ritual, by the way, is not one of the "pillars" (like a commandment) of the religion, but enormous society pressure is placed on every household to perform this act.) The origin of this ritual comes from our old testament where (was it Abraham?) was asked by God to sacrifice his first born son to "show" his faith. In Islam, however, they realised that this kind of practice would not hold the religion together, and they changed it from sacrificing their child to sacrificing a sheep as a symbolic replacement. To me this indicates that there are still areas on the planet that do require blood sacrifice en masse. Try to imagine the colossal amount of blood flowing in the veins bowels of earth during L'ayid, as each household across every Islamic nation is required to do this practice on the same day and hour?

    [edit on 27/11/07 by chutso_ha]



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:45 PM
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    On a more serious subject. There are some claims on the internet of observers spotting hordes (in film and photo analysis) of of UFO’s during the 9/11 event supposedly rescuing the thousands trapped in those building just before they went down.

    Can you comment on those claims?

    Raf



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 05:15 PM
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    Originally posted by adica1
    Hi Sleeper and Milton,

    If we are suppose to come to our parents, and they in this life are unavailable, will our soul just be put into someone next in line casue its time for us to come, or do have to wait till our moms are ready for us?


    Those we end up with are part of the program we will be put through, and they will be available


    Is it a package deal, we all come or nothing at all?


    We don’t all come in together and we don’t all leave together---most of the time


    You said all people who change history have had ET influnece....what about these mega cultural icons who have major influence on society with thier music, looks or behavior? Do these people like Prince, Madonna, Elvis have help in their mega success with a hidden agenda? Or just a great PR crew?


    No one becomes top gun on their own they are put there.


    I dont think Prince would like you revealing his secrets of not being from here...he is very private


    I don't think he would mind



    My son loves to read about the Jersey Devil, did he exist?


    No Jersey devil---but many paranormal occurrences by other phantoms in those parts get attributed to the Jersey devil.



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 05:19 PM
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    Not to sound like a jackass, but how can you people seriously still reply to this thread?

    Save any dignity you once had, and stop posting. If you honestly believe the garbage this man is spewing, may god have mercy on your soul. You give a bad name to the human race.

    I wholeheartedly believe in aliens and UFOs. But in no way, shape, or form can I even begin to believe an ounce of what sleeper is posting. It's so absolutely ludacris, I'm ashamed to have even read it.

    No offense though.


    [edit on 27-11-2007 by Double Eights]



    posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 05:30 PM
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    Originally posted by chutso_ha
    how can we be understanding if we don't even have the real facts with which to understand?


    We tend to understand only the things we want to understand, even those of us with open minds will shut them the moment we hear something that offends us.

    And much of the hidden stuff is very offensive to our human delicate and fragile reality of things that we cherish. I lose people every day who get offended by my simple words and ideas, many have fallen by the wayside, and I’m not talking about the skeptics---they stick with me like gum on my shoe----



    I undersand you have a neutral stance on the reptilians and their agenda and do not fear them. Perhaps you'd care to shed light on this subject to help us understand the dynamic from a wider perspective?


    Have you got a lifetime? It’s a huge subject and I wouldn’t know where to start or even how to end it.




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